In a non-chess newsgroup Neil Brennan volunteered accusations that I held
anti-semitic views, to which this poster replied

Bianca Steele wrote:

I don't worry that you're a racist, Phil; if you were a racist, you
would speak only to men of your own ethnic group, and regard the rest
of us as not worth any effort on your part towards civility.

Brennan then wrote:

This is the same Philth Innes who posted to a thread titled "Did Six
Million Really Die?" and who regularly defends antiSemites on the
newsgroups. It's not hard to tell which way the wind is blowing.....

-------
Brennan is insinuating something but quoting nothing. He has written
thousands of these posts. Taylor Kingston never noticed any of them, and
characterises them as 'a dispute' whereas he notices every bit of
hate-speech from Fischer.

It must be dissapointing for Brennan that I work with Susan Polgar who is
Jewish, and who is sending me her new book! This is the same GM Polgar who
used to write here until we heard from Brennan and Booz that it was
'Trollgar".

This is utterly disgusting.

Phil Innes

Dear Phil,

I have no idea whether or not you wrote "Did ... really die?"

That line of thinking is generally considered to be anti-semitic. For anyone
to attack you for your opinion on this subject, prior to World War II, would
generally not have been tolerated. Frankly, most people in America, would
have considered such an attack, an abridgement of free speech. Nowadays, it
is an automatic assumption that if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck
.... it is a duck. Unfortunately, this is not always the case, though some
continually make it.

Hatred and negativity put many people off of Chess, and to be honest it is
the elephant in the living room as I have stated here many times. Bigotry
and hatred, generally go hand in hand, so I guess we should expect that one
groups chess preferences over anothers will result in hate speech ... and
that is that. That being said, I don't believe it profitable or wise for us
to seek the differences between us. Rather, I would prefer hearing how we
can make Chess (here and worldwide) a better sport. I would prefer to hear
that we were free of such encumbrances as bigotry and hatred. So much for my
preferences.

FIDE, though not much better, has a motto which I think we should all follow
he "We are all friends" (roughly translated---to be sure). Many years
ago, I learned that "there is no substitue for winning". That attitude, cost
me many years and friendships.

For the humble hobbiest, as I prefer to be known, it is simply not
acceptable to hate anyone. Chess, afterall, is supposed to be a game, a
sport, a diversion from life's cares and woes, and a chance to think
logically with all your pieces in view (on the board as it were), with
nothing hidden, no impure motives, and certainly no skullduggery possible
over the board.

Would that life were as simple as a game of Chess.

Cordially,
Tom Klem



"Chess One" wrote in message
news:kzZ3e.10606$7b.2228@trndny05...
In a non-chess newsgroup Neil Brennan volunteered accusations that I held
anti-semitic views, to which this poster replied

Bianca Steele wrote:

I don't worry that you're a racist, Phil; if you were a racist, you
would speak only to men of your own ethnic group, and regard the rest
of us as not worth any effort on your part towards civility.

Brennan then wrote:

This is the same Philth Innes who posted to a thread titled "Did Six
Million Really Die?" and who regularly defends antiSemites on the
newsgroups. It's not hard to tell which way the wind is blowing.....

-------
Brennan is insinuating something but quoting nothing. He has written
thousands of these posts. Taylor Kingston never noticed any of them, and
characterises them as 'a dispute' whereas he notices every bit of
hate-speech from Fischer.

It must be dissapointing for Brennan that I work with Susan Polgar who is
Jewish, and who is sending me her new book! This is the same GM Polgar who
used to write here until we heard from Brennan and Booz that it was
'Trollgar".

This is utterly disgusting.

Phil Innes

Chess One wrote:
In a non-chess newsgroup Neil Brennan volunteered accusations that I
held
anti-semitic views,

I made no such accusations at all. I merely wrote, "This is the same
Philth Innes who posted to a thread titled "Did Six Million Really
Die?" and who regularly defends antiSemites on the newsgroups. It's not
hard to tell which way the wind is blowing....."

to which this poster replied

Bianca Steele wrote:

I don't worry that you're a racist, Phil; if you were a racist, you
would speak only to men of your own ethnic group, and regard the
rest
of us as not worth any effort on your part towards civility.

Brennan then wrote:

This is the same Philth Innes who posted to a thread titled "Did Six
Million Really Die?" and who regularly defends antiSemites on the
newsgroups. It's not hard to tell which way the wind is blowing.....

-------
Brennan is insinuating something but quoting nothing. He has written
thousands of these posts.

No, my observation about your writing in a Holocaust-denial thread is
very recent.

Taylor Kingston never noticed any of them, and
characterises them as 'a dispute' whereas he notices every bit of
hate-speech from Fischer.

It must be dissapointing for Brennan that I work with Susan Polgar
who is
Jewish, and who is sending me her new book!

Is she aware that you've posted to a Holocaust-denial thread? Perhaps
someone should tell her. And anyone you write for as well. Does
ChessVile endorse your views, Philth?

This is the same GM Polgar who
used to write here until we heard from Brennan and Booz that it was
'Trollgar".

This is utterly disgusting.

Phil Innes

Tom Klem wrote:
Dear Phil,

I have no idea whether or not you wrote "Did ... really die?"

A little time with Google will produce the post, Tom. I will add that
Philth did not originate the thread, but merely contributed what he
probably considered lighthearted humor about genocide.

"Tom Klem" wrote in message
news:kRZ3e.52749$AN1.50350@fed1read03...
Dear Phil,

I have no idea whether or not you wrote "Did ... really die?"

What the hell are you talking about Tom? Phil


That line of thinking is generally considered to be anti-semitic. For
anyone
to attack you for your opinion on this subject, prior to World War II,
would
generally not have been tolerated. Frankly, most people in America, would
have considered such an attack, an abridgement of free speech. Nowadays,
it
is an automatic assumption that if it quacks like a duck, walks like a
duck
... it is a duck. Unfortunately, this is not always the case, though some
continually make it.

Hatred and negativity put many people off of Chess, and to be honest it is
the elephant in the living room as I have stated here many times. Bigotry
and hatred, generally go hand in hand, so I guess we should expect that
one
groups chess preferences over anothers will result in hate speech ... and
that is that. That being said, I don't believe it profitable or wise for
us
to seek the differences between us. Rather, I would prefer hearing how we
can make Chess (here and worldwide) a better sport. I would prefer to hear
that we were free of such encumbrances as bigotry and hatred. So much for
my
preferences.

FIDE, though not much better, has a motto which I think we should all
follow
he "We are all friends" (roughly translated---to be sure). Many years
ago, I learned that "there is no substitue for winning". That attitude,
cost
me many years and friendships.

For the humble hobbiest, as I prefer to be known, it is simply not
acceptable to hate anyone. Chess, afterall, is supposed to be a game, a
sport, a diversion from life's cares and woes, and a chance to think
logically with all your pieces in view (on the board as it were), with
nothing hidden, no impure motives, and certainly no skullduggery possible
over the board.

Would that life were as simple as a game of Chess.

Cordially,
Tom Klem



"Chess One" wrote in message
news:kzZ3e.10606$7b.2228@trndny05...
In a non-chess newsgroup Neil Brennan volunteered accusations that I held
anti-semitic views, to which this poster replied

Bianca Steele wrote:

I don't worry that you're a racist, Phil; if you were a racist, you
would speak only to men of your own ethnic group, and regard the rest
of us as not worth any effort on your part towards civility.

Brennan then wrote:

This is the same Philth Innes who posted to a thread titled "Did Six
Million Really Die?" and who regularly defends antiSemites on the
newsgroups. It's not hard to tell which way the wind is blowing.....

-------
Brennan is insinuating something but quoting nothing. He has written
thousands of these posts. Taylor Kingston never noticed any of them, and
characterises them as 'a dispute' whereas he notices every bit of
hate-speech from Fischer.

It must be dissapointing for Brennan that I work with Susan Polgar who is
Jewish, and who is sending me her new book! This is the same GM Polgar
who
used to write here until we heard from Brennan and Booz that it was
'Trollgar".

This is utterly disgusting.

Phil Innes

I think its time to sue your ass.

Phil Innes

"Spam Scone" wrote in message
oups.com...

Chess One wrote:
In a non-chess newsgroup Neil Brennan volunteered accusations that I
held
anti-semitic views,

I made no such accusations at all. I merely wrote, "This is the same
Philth Innes who posted to a thread titled "Did Six Million Really
Die?" and who regularly defends antiSemites on the newsgroups. It's not
hard to tell which way the wind is blowing....."

to which this poster replied

Bianca Steele wrote:

I don't worry that you're a racist, Phil; if you were a racist, you
would speak only to men of your own ethnic group, and regard the
rest
of us as not worth any effort on your part towards civility.

Brennan then wrote:

This is the same Philth Innes who posted to a thread titled "Did Six
Million Really Die?" and who regularly defends antiSemites on the
newsgroups. It's not hard to tell which way the wind is blowing.....

-------
Brennan is insinuating something but quoting nothing. He has written
thousands of these posts.

No, my observation about your writing in a Holocaust-denial thread is
very recent.

Taylor Kingston never noticed any of them, and
characterises them as 'a dispute' whereas he notices every bit of
hate-speech from Fischer.

It must be dissapointing for Brennan that I work with Susan Polgar
who is
Jewish, and who is sending me her new book!

Is she aware that you've posted to a Holocaust-denial thread? Perhaps
someone should tell her. And anyone you write for as well. Does
ChessVile endorse your views, Philth?

This is the same GM Polgar who
used to write here until we heard from Brennan and Booz that it was
'Trollgar".

This is utterly disgusting.

Phil Innes

Apparently, I have no idea. My point was to exort posters and players alike
to have some consideration for the game of Chess, help promote Chess, and do
so with kindness and good sportsmanship.

My point is, this kind of hate speech (not by you, but purported in another
newsgroup to be by you), is exactly what we don't need.

It used to be that whoever uttered the word Hitler, ended the thread.

Let me be the first: Hitler

Tom Klem

"Chess One" wrote in message
news:ya%3e.2357$7b.2039@trndny04...

"Tom Klem" wrote in message
news:kRZ3e.52749$AN1.50350@fed1read03...
Dear Phil,

I have no idea whether or not you wrote "Did ... really die?"

What the hell are you talking about Tom? Phil


That line of thinking is generally considered to be anti-semitic. For
anyone
to attack you for your opinion on this subject, prior to World War II,
would
generally not have been tolerated. Frankly, most people in America,
would
have considered such an attack, an abridgement of free speech. Nowadays,
it
is an automatic assumption that if it quacks like a duck, walks like a
duck
... it is a duck. Unfortunately, this is not always the case, though
some
continually make it.

Hatred and negativity put many people off of Chess, and to be honest it
is
the elephant in the living room as I have stated here many times.
Bigotry
and hatred, generally go hand in hand, so I guess we should expect that
one
groups chess preferences over anothers will result in hate speech ...
and
that is that. That being said, I don't believe it profitable or wise for
us
to seek the differences between us. Rather, I would prefer hearing how
we
can make Chess (here and worldwide) a better sport. I would prefer to
hear
that we were free of such encumbrances as bigotry and hatred. So much
for
my
preferences.

FIDE, though not much better, has a motto which I think we should all
follow
he "We are all friends" (roughly translated---to be sure). Many years
ago, I learned that "there is no substitue for winning". That attitude,
cost
me many years and friendships.

For the humble hobbiest, as I prefer to be known, it is simply not
acceptable to hate anyone. Chess, afterall, is supposed to be a game, a
sport, a diversion from life's cares and woes, and a chance to think
logically with all your pieces in view (on the board as it were), with
nothing hidden, no impure motives, and certainly no skullduggery
possible
over the board.

Would that life were as simple as a game of Chess.

Cordially,
Tom Klem



"Chess One" wrote in message
news:kzZ3e.10606$7b.2228@trndny05...
In a non-chess newsgroup Neil Brennan volunteered accusations that I
held
anti-semitic views, to which this poster replied

Bianca Steele wrote:

I don't worry that you're a racist, Phil; if you were a racist, you
would speak only to men of your own ethnic group, and regard the rest
of us as not worth any effort on your part towards civility.

Brennan then wrote:

This is the same Philth Innes who posted to a thread titled "Did Six
Million Really Die?" and who regularly defends antiSemites on the
newsgroups. It's not hard to tell which way the wind is blowing.....

-------
Brennan is insinuating something but quoting nothing. He has written
thousands of these posts. Taylor Kingston never noticed any of them,
and
characterises them as 'a dispute' whereas he notices every bit of
hate-speech from Fischer.

It must be dissapointing for Brennan that I work with Susan Polgar who
is
Jewish, and who is sending me her new book! This is the same GM Polgar
who
used to write here until we heard from Brennan and Booz that it was
'Trollgar".

This is utterly disgusting.

Phil Innes

Tom Klem wrote:
Apparently, I have no idea. My point was to exort posters and players
alike
to have some consideration for the game of Chess, help promote Chess,
and do
so with kindness and good sportsmanship.

My point is, this kind of hate speech (not by you, but purported in
another
newsgroup to be by you), is exactly what we don't need.

It used to be that whoever uttered the word Hitler, ended the thread.

Let me be the first: Hitler

I agree, Tom. Now, could you please use your "pull" with Mr. Innes to
have him stop libeling me with the "hate-speech" tag?

You are on your own there.

Everybody!! Play nice, or I'll clear my throat.

Tom Klem

"Spam Scone" wrote in message
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Tom Klem wrote:
Apparently, I have no idea. My point was to exort posters and players
alike
to have some consideration for the game of Chess, help promote Chess,
and do
so with kindness and good sportsmanship.

My point is, this kind of hate speech (not by you, but purported in
another
newsgroup to be by you), is exactly what we don't need.

It used to be that whoever uttered the word Hitler, ended the thread.

Let me be the first: Hitler

I agree, Tom. Now, could you please use your "pull" with Mr. Innes to
have him stop libeling me with the "hate-speech" tag?

Chess One wrote:
I think its time to sue your ass.

Phil Innes

So Philth, let me understand things correctly. When you:
- threaten to visit me with something "sharp";
- claim I am a "hate-monger" and spread "hate-speech";
- repeatedly claim I am the subject of multiple lawsuits;
- continually threaten me with bogus lawsuits;
- spread libel about me in emails to the USCF;
- encourage a letter-writing campaign to my publishers; and
- accuse me of criminal actions, its OK.

And yet my direct citation of YOUR VERY OWN POST is subject to legal
action? I think you are going to be VERY suprised, Philth. Since you
recall from your unhappy time with sover.net how effective complaints
to an ISP can be, I think I'll start there. As Yasser would say, Enjoy.