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Old April 10th 05, 10:14 PM
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod)
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David Ames wrote:

I do not know who Boobaki is.


Boobaki is the rgc* resident antisemite,
who uses nick "Nick", and has "bourbaki"
in his email address. He has a very touchy
belly button, and is fond of his phoney
English. He's trolling more than anybody
ever on rgc[mp]. His propaganda technique
includes tricks like false juxtapositions,
misuse of quotes, using phrases like
"I seem to remember", "evidently", "obviously"
which are then followed by disgusting lies.
Often he tells others then what supposedly
they think, what are their views...--all
fat lies. When two people agree that Boobaki
is a liar and troll, then out troll Boobaki
calls them "friends", and this supposedly
makes accusations void. But they are not void.
They are 100% true. Boobaki is a Liar and troll.

Boobaki is sleazy and dishonest to the bone.

You had to run into his posts because
as I said, he is a super-troller.

Wlod

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Old April 11th 05, 12:09 AM
David Ames
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Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod) wrote:
David Ames wrote:

I do not know who Boobaki is.


Boobaki is the rgc* resident antisemite,
who uses nick "Nick", and has "bourbaki"
in his email address.


I pay no attention to e-mail addresses. Many of them are invalid.

He has a very touchy
belly button, and is fond of his phoney
English. He's trolling more than anybody
ever on rgc[mp]. His propaganda technique
includes tricks like false juxtapositions,
misuse of quotes, using phrases like
"I seem to remember", "evidently", "obviously"
which are then followed by disgusting lies.
Often he tells others then what supposedly
they think, what are their views...--all
fat lies. When two people agree that Boobaki
is a liar and troll, then out troll Boobaki
calls them "friends", and this supposedly
makes accusations void.


Then it is a good thing that I did not respond to his posts.

But they are not void.
They are 100% true. Boobaki is a Liar and troll.

Boobaki is sleazy and dishonest to the bone.

You had to run into his posts because
as I said, he is a super-troller.

Wlod



David Ames

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Old April 11th 05, 02:04 AM
Nick
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David Ames wrote:
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (wlod) wrote:
David Ames wrote (to Wlodzimierz Holsztynski):
Barbara Villiers has told you about her
family's connection with the war in Europe.


And she may thank Britain and the West for that!


That's crazy.


Mr Ames, you are not the only reader here who has
observed that Wlodzimierz Holsztynski has a record
of making deranged comments.

Here's what 'Barbara Villiers' has written to
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski in rec.games.chess.misc:

"Nobody could accuse you (Wlodzimierz Holsztynski)
of logic or brains enough to become brainwashed.
I'm capable of thinking for myself. You are blinded
by the light of fanaticism. Yes the same fanaticism
that brought all oppressive regimes such as the Soviet
Empire and Nazi Germany into existance (sic).
Frankly I am ashamed that there are Jewish people
like you (Wlodzimierz Holsztynski)...."
--'Barbara Villiers' (10 April 2005, RGCM)

(snipped)
And (ironically?) these Western ignorant statements
are the fuel which provides antisemites in Poland with
quite a milage: you see--these Polish versions of
Boobakis and Hanses say--what Jews did to us? It is
because of Jews that Westerners treat us like this,
it is Jewish propaganda, Rotschild's money, etc.
But it is not Jewish doing. It is regular stupidity
in the West and the most unethical attitude of many
Westerners toward the victim of WWII - toward Poland.


It should be noted (apart from Wlodzimierz Holsztynski's
usual personal insults and lies) that Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
refers to Poland as '*the victim* (singular) of WWII'.

There were *many victims* of war in the 1930s-40s.
*Before* Germany invaded Poland in September 1939,
the Japanese had invaded China and probably killed
millions of Chinese civilians (including some at
the infamous 'Rape of Nanking'). How should all of
these many other non-Polish victims of war feel
about Wlodzimierz Holsztynski's statement (above)?

I believe you mischaracterize HansJ.


Wlodzimierz Holsztynski has been busy insulting
and lying about Hans Jorgen Lassen and me.

I do not know who Boobaki is.


'Boobaki' is Wlodzimierz Holsztynski's deliberately
insulting epithet that he loves to apply toward me.

Simon ('chapman billy'), whom Holsztynski pretends to
respect, already has rebuked Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
in public (in rec.games.chess.misc) for using the
epithet 'Boobaki' and for writing many other insults
and lies against me. Yes, I can quote that evidence
again if required, though I have noticed that Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski just snips it all and continues to rant.

There is a French collaborative of mathematicians
called Bourbaki, and they took their name from a
French general Nicholas Bourbaki.


That's not quite accurate. The French general
was Charles Denis Sauter Bourbaki (1816-1897).
The mathematicians' group has published some books
in French (and in English translation) under the
collective pseudonym of 'Nicolas Bourbaki'.

But I have not seen any posts from someone
who calls himself Boobaki.


Mr Ames has made a true statement (above).
I have not called myself 'Boobaki' or even 'Bourbaki'
(though Wlodzimierz Holsztynski has previously falsely
accused me of having used the handle of 'Bourbaki').

My handle in the Usenet chess newsgroups always has
been 'Nick'. 'Bourbaki' has been only *a part of my
E-mail address*. (Some readers here have corresponded
with me at that E-mail address.) Given that there
have been several writers in the Usenet chess newsgroups
who use the same handle of 'Nick', some other writers
here have referred to me as 'Nick Bourbaki' in order
to identify me more distinctly.

I would hope that David Ames and other readers here
will read what I have written in the original context
rather than believing any of the countless distortions
and lies by Wlodzimierz Holsztynski and other trolls
about what I have written. If anyone has a serious
honest question about what I have written, then one
may contact me at my E-mail address, though I cannot
promise that my schedule will allow me to respond
promptly.

--Nick

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Old April 11th 05, 03:03 AM
Nick
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Spam Scone wrote:
David Ames wrote:
You talk about "bleating." Wlod's bleating
about Poland would be appropriate, I think,
in the newsgroup soc.culture.polish.


I suspect that some readers in soc.culture.polish
would soon become tired of hearing that kind of
'bleating' again and again and again.

I think he should give Poland's misfortunes a rest in
this CHESS newsgroup. Wlod has an off-topic axe to
grind: see his subject title on this thread.


And what's more, this entire thread is a refutation
of Godwin's Law!


Perhaps Neil Brennen has noticed the apparent alliance
between Phil Innes, whom Neil Brennen has accused of
anti-Semitism, and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski, who's
evidently paranoid about anti-Semitism (except
perhaps when it's expedient for him).

--Nick

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Old April 11th 05, 04:07 AM
Chess One
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"Nick" wrote in message
oups.com...

Perhaps Neil Brennen has noticed the apparent alliance
between Phil Innes, whom Neil Brennen has accused of
anti-Semitism, and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski, who's
evidently paranoid about anti-Semitism (except
perhaps when it's expedient for him).


ROFL!

Of course, maybe Neil Brennen's is wrong twice? )

But not you Nick, as long as you can cite other people about semitic issues
we will never know why /you/ only write about semitic issues. Its an easy
game, no? Everyone bites for a long time, and you can bedraggle every
encounter by personality engagements, without ever braving that threshold
yourself.

Is this appetite of yours one that is never sated by feeding it?

Phil Innes

--Nick



 




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