This kid was rated maybe 1800 a few short years ago. Now he's strong enough
to compete with GMs and dusts them regularly on ICC. This may be the real
reason Kasparov decided to quit (too many talented kids from the
computer-era getting ready to dust him).

His opening repertoire is shoddy, his middlegame is spectacular (like a
computer's), and his endgames are pretty good, especially for someone so
young.

His games are definitely worth studying for future trends in chess,
especially in the openings. I've seen some wild ideas from this kid,
including sacrificing a pawn on b4 in the main line of the Center Counter,
and playing 6. Rg1 against the Najdorf.

--
Ray Gordon, Author
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Four FREE books on how to get laid by beautiful women

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En/na Ray Gordon ha escrit:

This kid was rated maybe 1800 a few short years ago. Now he's strong enough
to compete with GMs and dusts them regularly on ICC. This may be the real
reason Kasparov decided to quit (too many talented kids from the
computer-era getting ready to dust him).

His opening repertoire is shoddy, his middlegame is spectacular (like a
computer's), and his endgames are pretty good, especially for someone so
young.

His games are definitely worth studying for future trends in chess,
especially in the openings. I've seen some wild ideas from this kid,
including sacrificing a pawn on b4 in the main line of the Center Counter,
and playing 6. Rg1 against the Najdorf.


Who is that boy?

What is his nick in ICC?

AT

This kid was rated maybe 1800 a few short years ago. Now he's strong
enough to compete with GMs and dusts them regularly on ICC. This may be
the real reason Kasparov decided to quit (too many talented kids from the
computer-era getting ready to dust him).

His opening repertoire is shoddy, his middlegame is spectacular (like a
computer's), and his endgames are pretty good, especially for someone so
young.

His games are definitely worth studying for future trends in chess,
especially in the openings. I've seen some wild ideas from this kid,
including sacrificing a pawn on b4 in the main line of the Center
Counter, and playing 6. Rg1 against the Najdorf.


Who is that boy?

What is his nick in ICC?

Why would I tell anyone stuff like that?

I can't say how much I LOVE the fact that my future international rivals so
graciously sharpen their teeth where the world can watch their games, log
them, and figure out their weaknesses so easily.


--
Ray Gordon, Author
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Four FREE books on how to get laid by beautiful women

http://www.cybersheet.com/chess.html
Free Chess E-book: Train Like A Chess Champion

Don't buy anything from experts who won't debate on a free speech forum.

Why would I tell anyone stuff like that?

Why *indeed* would a *jerk* like you do *anything* to help out *his own
mother*?

Sr. Torrecillas has, for many years, been one of the most consistently
intelligent and helpful members of the group. I have been the
beneficiary of a great deal of that help, I'm happy to say.

You don't *have* to help him, but it might be nice.

Just think, at some point in the future, you might post a request with
which Antonio might be able to help, or, indeed, I might, but because
you have behaved like such a jerk, we may decide *not* to help you
after all....

Other people who read this thread may decide the same.

Why would I tell anyone stuff like that?

Why *indeed* would a *jerk* like you do *anything* to help out *his own
mother*?

I'm no jerk, just the hardest-working chessplayer in America. It's why I
find kids like this one. I do my homework.


Sr. Torrecillas has, for many years, been one of the most consistently
intelligent and helpful members of the group. I have been the
beneficiary of a great deal of that help, I'm happy to say.

You don't *have* to help him, but it might be nice.

I helped the group by breaking the news that a 13 year-old kid had a 2700
bullet rating on ICC. He's the one who got personal.


Just think, at some point in the future, you might post a request with
which Antonio might be able to help, or, indeed, I might, but because
you have behaved like such a jerk, we may decide *not* to help you
after all....

Well I better work doubly hard to get all that help for myself now!


Other people who read this thread may decide the same.

Got news for you pal: I've never received a dime of help or support from the
chess establishment, even when I was young and had a much longer future than
I do now. I did see a bunch of spoiled brats declared "future champions"
and have their lessons paid for, with the side effect of having anyone over
age 18 who took the game seriously being dismissed as "too old." Funny how,
without exception, all those "promising juniors" from the 1980s all QUIT the
game and I'm training once again.

If people were smart, they'd let me run the chess show in this country,
because if I'm no longer capable of becoming a world champion, I'd be able
to set the stage for whichever American has the talent to do so. I also
don't keep quiet about wrongdoing, and I see a lot of complaining about that
from those who claim to care about chess.

Let me state once again that should I ever wind up asked to play for this
country in *any* international tournament, including any world championship,
that I will refuse representation unless *all* of my training along the way
there is paid for, and I will advise any of my proteges to do the same.
This country should get only what it gives, and not try to rewrite history
after the fact.

I already published a game where I crushed a 3000-rated computer on a major
internet server with BLACK, and the computer had only lost less than 50
games against 7000+ wins. I've since been beating masters rather regularly
at blitz and bullet, and my repertoire is starting to expand past move 20 in
my main lines.

Next up is three to five years of ferocious endgame study, and whatever's
left over -- if anything -- will be the "middlegame." It'll be real
comforting to know that once I reach my goals, that many will pretend to
have supported me all along in my endeavor.

--
Ray Gordon, Author
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Four FREE books on how to get laid by beautiful women

http://www.cybersheet.com/chess.html
Free Chess E-book: Train Like A Chess Champion

Don't buy anything from experts who won't debate on a free speech forum.

Why would I tell anyone stuff like that?

Why *indeed* would a *jerk* like you do *anything* to help out *his
own
mother*?



I'm no jerk, just the hardest-working chessplayer in America.

You mean, *including* Central and South America *and Canada* (which is
that country between Alaska and the rest of the mainland United
States)? Do you include, say, Rhode Island, Hawaii, the U.S. Virgin
Islands...?


It's why I find kids like this one. I do my homework.


Something tells me that you might possibly be *working hard* on the
*wrong priorities*. Call it a hunch.

Sr. Torrecillas has, for many years, been one of the most
consistently
intelligent and helpful members of the group. I have been the
beneficiary of a great deal of that help, I'm happy to say.

You don't *have* to help him, but it might be nice.


I helped the group by breaking the news that a 13 year-old kid had a
2700 bullet rating on ICC.

I'm sorry...how did that help the group? In effect, all you've said is:
"I, Gordon Parker, am a Superfly hero detective-type guy, and I know
something you don't..."

He's the one who got personal.

Run that one by me again.... in what way did Sr. Torrecillas get
"personal"?

All he did was ask you who this is. It's a simple question.


Just think, at some point in the future, you might post a request
with
which Antonio might be able to help, or, indeed, I might, but
because
you have behaved like such a jerk, we may decide *not* to help you
after all....


Well I better work doubly hard to get all that help for myself now!

Well... be sure to work doubly hard on *improving your game* instead of
just working doubly hard on finding some wunderkind-or-other on ICC
(where wunderkinder are a-dime-a-dozen, it seems).

Other people who read this thread may decide the same.


Got news for you pal: I've never received a dime of help or support
from the
chess establishment, even when I was young and had a much longer future
than
I do now.

This is relevant to the possibility that in the future you may need
help from the group... how... exactly?

I did see a bunch of spoiled brats declared "future champions"
and have their lessons paid for, with the side effect of having anyone
over
age 18 who took the game seriously being dismissed as "too old." Funny
how,
without exception, all those "promising juniors" from the 1980s all
QUIT the
game and I'm training once again.

Absolutely. I'm splitting my sides, here.

If people were smart, they'd let me run the chess show in this
country,
because if I'm no longer capable of becoming a world champion,

That may depend upon *which world*.....you seem to have "Planet Gordo"
sewn up.

I'd be able
to set the stage for whichever American has the talent to do so. I
also
don't keep quiet about wrongdoing, and I see a lot of complaining about
that
from those who claim to care about chess.

I think that many people might be able to say the same. Certainly I
can.

Let me state once again that should I ever wind up asked to play for
this
country in *any* international tournament, including any world
championship,
that I will refuse representation unless *all* of my training along the
way
there is paid for, and I will advise any of my proteges to do the same.

This country should get only what it gives, and not try to rewrite
history
after the fact.

In other words:

"Ask *NOT* what *you can do for your country*. Ask *what your country
can do for YOU*."
--Joe Bowie/Defunkt ("In America", after John F. Kennedy, 35th
President of the USA)

I already published a game where I crushed a 3000-rated computer on a
major
internet server with BLACK, and the computer had only lost less than 50

games against 7000+ wins. I've since been beating masters rather
regularly
at blitz and bullet, and my repertoire is starting to expand past move
20 in
my main lines.

Great.

Next up is three to five years of ferocious endgame study, and
whatever's
left over -- if anything -- will be the "middlegame." It'll be real
comforting to know that once I reach my goals, that many will pretend
to
have supported me all along in my endeavor.

That may prove to be true, but you can be sure that if it does, *I
shall not be one of the "many"*. I wish you success on whichever planet
you choose to occupy.

Mark Houlsby

Delusions of grandeur. ALL of it. Not the least of which is Gordo
saying he's "no jerk."

Any 30/40-something Class A player who fancies himself "the hardest
working chessplayer in the country" and apparently actually *thinks* he
has a shot at the world title or that someone like HIM could even get
more votes than Sam Sloan in a USCF election is truly deranged. But we
established that a long time ago, didn't we?

Regards,

Matt

I'm no jerk, just the hardest-working chessplayer in America.

You mean, *including* Central and South America *and Canada* (which is
that country between Alaska and the rest of the mainland United
States)?

I train with an intensity similar to Fischer's. It's how I made expert
within two years of joining the USCF.



Do you include, say, Rhode Island, Hawaii, the U.S. Virgin
Islands...?

yawn

It's why I find kids like this one. I do my homework.


Something tells me that you might possibly be *working hard* on the
*wrong priorities*. Call it a hunch.

Studying the games of 13 year-olds who make 2700 at chess is hardly a poor
use of my time.


You don't *have* to help him, but it might be nice.

I helped the group by breaking the news that a 13 year-old kid had a
2700 bullet rating on ICC.

I'm sorry...how did that help the group? In effect, all you've said is:
"I, snip, am a Superfly hero detective-type guy, and I know
something you don't..."

I posted it to let the group know that the post-computer generation of
chessplayers is a lot stronger than the pre-computer one.


He's the one who got personal.

Run that one by me again.... in what way did Sr. Torrecillas get
"personal"?

Asked for the kid's nic.


All he did was ask you who this is. It's a simple question.

A *personal* question.

Just think, at some point in the future, you might post a request
with
which Antonio might be able to help, or, indeed, I might, but
because
you have behaved like such a jerk, we may decide *not* to help you
after all....


Well I better work doubly hard to get all that help for myself now!

Well... be sure to work doubly hard on *improving your game* instead of
just working doubly hard on finding some wunderkind-or-other on ICC
(where wunderkinder are a-dime-a-dozen, it seems).

Oh, I work triply hard at that.


Other people who read this thread may decide the same.


Got news for you pal: I've never received a dime of help or support
from the
chess establishment, even when I was young and had a much longer future
than
I do now.

This is relevant to the possibility that in the future you may need
help from the group... how... exactly?

I gave up on third-party help at chess a long time ago. Chess funding is
only for prodigies who will quit the game or adults who goof off, make IM,
and call that a good investment.


I did see a bunch of spoiled brats declared "future champions"
and have their lessons paid for, with the side effect of having anyone
over
age 18 who took the game seriously being dismissed as "too old." Funny
how,
without exception, all those "promising juniors" from the 1980s all
QUIT the
game and I'm training once again.

Absolutely. I'm splitting my sides, here.

Yeah, too bad no one laughed at them in the 1980s before all that money was
wasted on their chess lessons.


If people were smart, they'd let me run the chess show in this
country,
because if I'm no longer capable of becoming a world champion,

That may depend upon *which world*.....you seem to have "Planet Gordo"
sewn up.

The people running the chess world in the US don't seem to be doing the
greatest job.

Where's that next Fischer we were promised 20 years ago. Those prodigies
were *so* promising!

Let me state once again that should I ever wind up asked to play for
this
country in *any* international tournament, including any world
championship,
that I will refuse representation unless *all* of my training along the
way
there is paid for, and I will advise any of my proteges to do the same.

This country should get only what it gives, and not try to rewrite
history
after the fact.

In other words:

"Ask *NOT* what *you can do for your country*. Ask *what your country
can do for YOU*."

Ask that your country do for you what it did for a hundred prodigies 20
years ago who QUIT. They had funded lessons out the wazoo and got respect
just for being young (I had the same rating they did but was all of nine
years older, and had been playing for less time).


I already published a game where I crushed a 3000-rated computer on a
major
internet server with BLACK, and the computer had only lost less than 50
games against 7000+ wins. I've since been beating masters rather
regularly
at blitz and bullet, and my repertoire is starting to expand past move
20 in
my main lines.

Great.

For me, not my opponents.


Next up is three to five years of ferocious endgame study, and
whatever's
left over -- if anything -- will be the "middlegame." It'll be real
comforting to know that once I reach my goals, that many will pretend
to
have supported me all along in my endeavor.

That may prove to be true, but you can be sure that if it does, *I
shall not be one of the "many"*. I wish you success on whichever planet
you choose to occupy.

Wishes don't pay for training costs, all they are is a "free lottery ticket"
for the person making the wish, since it's free, and they can claim down the
road that they were "supportive."

Too bad Fischer wasn't smart enough to demand $20 million from the US
government for being its Cold Warrior back in 1972. Love the way he was
repaid for being such a patriot.

At least I didn't quit the game like the cowardly prodigies from 20 years
ago did *after* they took thousands of dollars in lessons and stipends to
get them through high school. Perhaps they can return that money so it can
go to the training of players willing to make a lifetime commitment to the
game?

--
Ray Gordon, Author
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Four FREE books on how to get laid by beautiful women

http://www.cybersheet.com/chess.html
Free Chess E-book: Train Like A Chess Champion

Don't buy anything from experts who won't debate on a free speech forum.

I'm no jerk, just the hardest-working chessplayer in America.

You mean, *including* Central and South America *and Canada* (which
is
that country between Alaska and the rest of the mainland United
States)?



I train with an intensity similar to Fischer's.

That explains your seeming deranged, then.

It's how I made expert within two years of joining the USCF.

No doubt it is. That's an impressive achievement.


Do you include, say, Rhode Island, Hawaii, the U.S. Virgin
Islands...?


yawn

Well I see that your training keeps you awake, at least.

It's why I find kids like this one. I do my homework.

Something tells me that you might possibly be *working hard* on the
*wrong priorities*. Call it a hunch.



Studying the games of 13 year-olds who make 2700 at chess is hardly a
poor
use of my time.

I hate to disillusion you, moron, but studying the BLITZ games of
ANYONE who is rated under 3000 on ICC most certainly is a waste of
anyone's time. In your becoming an expert, did you ever encounter the
concept of a "time trouble blunder"?

You don't *have* to help him, but it might be nice.

I helped the group by breaking the news that a 13 year-old kid had a

2700 bullet rating on ICC.


I'm sorry...how did that help the group? In effect, all you've said
is:
"I, Ray Gordon, am a Superfly hero detective-type guy, and I know
something you don't..."



I posted it to let the group know that the post-computer generation of

chessplayers is a lot stronger than the pre-computer one.

Ummm........ I don't see what playing blitz on ICC proves. If these new
players perform well in a Category XX event, I shall be suitably
impressed. Until then....

He's the one who got personal.

Run that one by me again.... in what way did Sr. Torrecillas get
"personal"?



Asked for the kid's nic.

That's not being personal. That's asking for some information which you
have about someone who fills your wet dreams.

If I said: "Ray Gordon is a moron" that would be personal, but Sr.
Torrecillas wrote nothing personal.

Moron.

All he did was ask you who this is. It's a simple question.


A *personal* question.

Keep banging those rocks together, jackass.

Just think, at some point in the future, you might post a request
with
which Antonio might be able to help, or, indeed, I might, but
because
you have behaved like such a jerk, we may decide *not* to help you

after all....

Well I better work doubly hard to get all that help for myself now!


Well... be sure to work doubly hard on *improving your game* instead
of
just working doubly hard on finding some wunderkind-or-other on ICC
(where wunderkinder are a-dime-a-dozen, it seems).



Oh, I work triply hard at that.

There are 72 hours in your day?!

Other people who read this thread may decide the same.

Got news for you pal: I've never received a dime of help or support
from the
chess establishment, even when I was young and had a much longer
future
than
I do now.


This is relevant to the possibility that in the future you may need
help from the group... how... exactly?

I gave up on third-party help at chess a long time ago. Chess funding
is
only for prodigies who will quit the game or adults who goof off, make
IM,
and call that a good investment.

Uh huh.

I did see a bunch of spoiled brats declared "future champions"
and have their lessons paid for, with the side effect of having
anyone
over
age 18 who took the game seriously being dismissed as "too old."
Funny
how,
without exception, all those "promising juniors" from the 1980s all
QUIT the
game and I'm training once again.

Absolutely. I'm splitting my sides, here.

Yeah, too bad no one laughed at them in the 1980s before all that
money was
wasted on their chess lessons.

Are you sure it was wasted? Are you sure that those kids didn't become
*better, smarter people* as a result of their having learned the
discipline of studying chess?

If people were smart, they'd let me run the chess show in this
country,
because if I'm no longer capable of becoming a world champion,

That may depend upon *which world*.....you seem to have "Planet
Gordo"
sewn up.



The people running the chess world in the US don't seem to be doing
the
greatest job.

No ****, Sherlock.

Where's that next Fischer we were promised 20 years ago. Those
prodigies
were *so* promising!


Let me state once again that should I ever wind up asked to play for

this
country in *any* international tournament, including any world
championship,
that I will refuse representation unless *all* of my training along
the
way
there is paid for, and I will advise any of my proteges to do the
same.

This country should get only what it gives, and not try to rewrite
history
after the fact.


In other words:


"Ask *NOT* what *you can do for your country*. Ask *what your
country
can do for YOU*."



Ask that your country do for you what it did for a hundred prodigies
20
years ago who QUIT. They had funded lessons out the wazoo and got
respect
just for being young (I had the same rating they did but was all of
nine
years older, and had been playing for less time).

That's a strange obsession of yours. WTF does it matter what happened
to anybody else?

If you spent as much time studying chess *effectively* as you seem to
do worrying about those kids who quit, who knows..? You might actually
be pretty good by now...

I already published a game where I crushed a 3000-rated computer on
a
major
internet server with BLACK, and the computer had only lost less than
50
games against 7000+ wins. I've since been beating masters rather
regularly
at blitz and bullet, and my repertoire is starting to expand past
move
20 in
my main lines.

Great.



For me, not my opponents.

No ****, Sherlock.


Next up is three to five years of ferocious endgame study, and
whatever's
left over -- if anything -- will be the "middlegame." It'll be real
comforting to know that once I reach my goals, that many will pretend

to
have supported me all along in my endeavor.

That may prove to be true, but you can be sure that if it does, *I
shall not be one of the "many"*. I wish you success on whichever
planet
you choose to occupy.

Wishes don't pay for training costs, all they are is a "free lottery
ticket"
for the person making the wish, since it's free, and they can claim
down the
road that they were "supportive."

Don't worry. I'm not going to do that. I may wish you well, but really
I don't give a **** about you. My only concern was your having trolled
Sr. Torrecillas, who, it seems to me, did not deserve to be trolled.

Too bad Fischer wasn't smart enough to demand $20 million from the US
government for being its Cold Warrior back in 1972. Love the way he
was
repaid for being such a patriot.

Yeah, love the way he did *so* much for chess after becoming World
Champion, as well...

At least I didn't quit the game like the cowardly prodigies from 20
years
ago did *after* they took thousands of dollars in lessons and stipends
to
get them through high school.

Yeah, you already said that. Maybe it's time for your medication?

Perhaps they can return that money so it can
go to the training of players willing to make a lifetime commitment to
the
game?

Perhaps. I suggest that you *shouldn't* try to ask any of them
personally, however... by now, one or two of them might be MEAN
mother****ers who'll cheerfully kick seven shades of **** out of you,
at least...

Have a nice day, now...

In article , "Ray Gordon"
wrote:

I'm no jerk, just the hardest-working chessplayer in America.

I train with an intensity similar to Fischer's. It's how I made expert
within two years of joining the USCF.

Rating history for Gordon R. Parker

Date of USCF rating supplement Rating
July 1987 1380/4
Sept. 1987 none
Nov. 1987 1810
Jan. 1988 1828
March 1988 1867
May 1988 1940
July 1988 1907
Sept. 1988 1958
Nov. 1988 1877
Jan. 1989 1967
March 1989 1912
May 1989 1877
July 1989 1888
Sept. 1989 1897
Nov. 1989 1890
Jan. 1990 1904
March 1990 1956
May 1990 1888
July 1990 1974
Sept. 1990 1912
1990 annual 1912
Feb. 1991 none
April 1991 1956
June 1991 1988
Aug. 1991 1903
Oct. 1991 1903
1991 annual 1900
Feb. 1992 none
April 1992 none

Even though research does not show an expert rating for Gordon R. Parker,
his 2000+ rating was perhaps published on his Chess Life mailing label in
one of those months when the USCF did not publish a ratings supplement.

--
Frisco Del Rosario
A First Book of Morphy -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1412039061