Mr. Sloan:

I never played anyone with a 2300 elo rating in my life who wasn't
a tough player, and I've played dozens of them. It doesn't really
matter how you get the rating, you have to play at a certain level to
get it. An argument could be made that Mr. Bauer was probably
underrated, because there are not so many rating points floating around
in the midwest as on the two coasts.

I would bet on the slightly rusty Mr. Bauer to win a match with
you, even if any draws were scored 1-0 in your favor. In fact, I would
bet a lot of money on such a match, if I could find any takers. I
don't think this match would be nearly as close as you seem to believe.

On the other hand, I think you could probably play Bill Brock,
Taylor Kingston, Randy Bauer, and the top 5 players in the USCF in a
shogi or chinese chess simulataneous and win all of your games.
Probably even in a clock simul. Your ability to master a number of
games at a relatively high level is far more impressive than your
skill level in any particular game, at least in my opinion.


- Geof Strayer

On 17 Jun 2005 13:20:05 -0700, wrote:

Mr. Sloan:

I never played anyone with a 2300 elo rating in my life who wasn't
a tough player, and I've played dozens of them. It doesn't really
matter how you get the rating, you have to play at a certain level to
get it. An argument could be made that Mr. Bauer was probably
underrated, because there are not so many rating points floating around
in the midwest as on the two coasts.

I would bet on the slightly rusty Mr. Bauer to win a match with
you, even if any draws were scored 1-0 in your favor. In fact, I would
bet a lot of money on such a match, if I could find any takers. I
don't think this match would be nearly as close as you seem to believe.

On the other hand, I think you could probably play Bill Brock,
Taylor Kingston, Randy Bauer, and the top 5 players in the USCF in a
shogi or chinese chess simulataneous and win all of your games.
Probably even in a clock simul. Your ability to master a number of
games at a relatively high level is far more impressive than your
skill level in any particular game, at least in my opinion.


- Geof Strayer

Thank you very much for making this point.

Yes, I could easily play Bill Brock,Taylor Kingston, Randy Bauer, and
the top 5 players in the USCF in a simultaneous exhibition in both
Chinese Chess and shogi at the same time and win all of my games
without difficulty.

There is however one opponent would be dangerous. International Master
Larry Kaufman is much stronger than I in both chess and shogi. He once
beat me in Chinese chess too, but that was 20 years ago when I was not
very good.

However, as long as you keep Larry Kaufman out of the game, I can
easily beat all of the rest of them simultaneously and possibly
blindfolded as well.

Thank you again.

Sam Sloan

In article .com,
says...

Mr. Sloan:

I never played anyone with a 2300 elo rating in my life who wasn't
a tough player, and I've played dozens of them. It doesn't really
matter how you get the rating, you have to play at a certain level to
get it. An argument could be made that Mr. Bauer was probably
underrated, because there are not so many rating points floating around
in the midwest as on the two coasts.

I would bet on the slightly rusty Mr. Bauer to win a match with
you, even if any draws were scored 1-0 in your favor. In fact, I would
bet a lot of money on such a match, if I could find any takers. I
don't think this match would be nearly as close as you seem to believe.

I think "slightly rusty" is about right, but I've been far from inactive. I
still regularly play speed chess with a couple of experts and a master.
Interestingly, the event Sloan talks about being my last "tournament" was a
social picnic at a chess club I belong to, was a 5 minute tournament, and the
"1988 player" Sloan mentions is Pete Karanganis, a rising young player with a
2180 rating.

I also regularly read and review chess books, which gives me plenty of
opportunity to analyze and stay current on openings and analysis. I'm very much
ready to play a class A player in a match -- when I was active, I ate class A
players for breakfast.

Randy Bauer

In article , Randy Bauer says...

In article .com,
says...

Mr. Sloan:

I never played anyone with a 2300 elo rating in my life who wasn't
a tough player, and I've played dozens of them. It doesn't really
matter how you get the rating, you have to play at a certain level to
get it. An argument could be made that Mr. Bauer was probably
underrated, because there are not so many rating points floating around
in the midwest as on the two coasts.

I would bet on the slightly rusty Mr. Bauer to win a match with
you, even if any draws were scored 1-0 in your favor. In fact, I would
bet a lot of money on such a match, if I could find any takers. I
don't think this match would be nearly as close as you seem to believe.

I think "slightly rusty" is about right, but I've been far from inactive. I
still regularly play speed chess with a couple of experts and a master.
Interestingly, the event Sloan talks about being my last "tournament" was a
social picnic at a chess club I belong to, was a 5 minute tournament, and the
"1988 player" Sloan mentions is Pete Karanganis, a rising young player with a
2180 rating.

Actually, for rating comparison purposes, during the meeting of the USCF
Executive Board in Berkeley earlier this year, we visited the Mechanics Chess
Club. While there, WIM Beatriz Marinello and I played 4 5-minute games, which I
won 3-1. Beatriz' quick chess rating is 2172 and her regular rating is 2201.
Yep, I'm feeling SOOOO RUSTY...

Come on, Sam, LET'S PLAY. I've got my share of the prize fund, how about you?

Randy Bauer



I also regularly read and review chess books, which gives me plenty of
opportunity to analyze and stay current on openings and analysis. I'm very much
ready to play a class A player in a match -- when I was active, I ate class A
players for breakfast.

Randy Bauer

On 18 Jun 2005 12:09:14 -0700, Randy Bauer
wrote:

In article , Randy Bauer says...

In article .com,
says...

Mr. Sloan:

I never played anyone with a 2300 elo rating in my life who wasn't
a tough player, and I've played dozens of them. It doesn't really
matter how you get the rating, you have to play at a certain level to
get it. An argument could be made that Mr. Bauer was probably
underrated, because there are not so many rating points floating around
in the midwest as on the two coasts.

I would bet on the slightly rusty Mr. Bauer to win a match with
you, even if any draws were scored 1-0 in your favor. In fact, I would
bet a lot of money on such a match, if I could find any takers. I
don't think this match would be nearly as close as you seem to believe.

I think "slightly rusty" is about right, but I've been far from inactive. I
still regularly play speed chess with a couple of experts and a master.
Interestingly, the event Sloan talks about being my last "tournament" was a
social picnic at a chess club I belong to, was a 5 minute tournament, and the
"1988 player" Sloan mentions is Pete Karanganis, a rising young player with a
2180 rating.

Actually, for rating comparison purposes, during the meeting of the USCF
Executive Board in Berkeley earlier this year, we visited the Mechanics Chess
Club. While there, WIM Beatriz Marinello and I played 4 5-minute games, which I
won 3-1. Beatriz' quick chess rating is 2172 and her regular rating is 2201.
Yep, I'm feeling SOOOO RUSTY...

Come on, Sam, LET'S PLAY. I've got my share of the prize fund, how about you?

Randy Bauer

We have been through this before.

The actual playing strength of Beatriz is now about 1950. She is held
at 2200 because she is USCF President on her ratings floor.

Since you beat her 3-1, that makes you a 2150 player which is also
about what I figured your present strength to be.

Sam Sloan

[Event "Prairie State Inv"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1986.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Brock, Bill"]
[Black "Giles, Morris"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B81"]
[Annotator "Bill Brock"]
[PlyCount "57"]
[EventDate "1986.??.??"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. g4 a6 7. g5 Nfd7
8. Be3
b5 9. a3 Bb7 10. h4 Nc6 11. Nxc6 Bxc6 12. Qd4 Qb8 13. h5 Qb7 14. Rh3
Nc5 15. f3
O-O-O 16. b4 e5 17. Qd2 Ne6 18. Nd5 $6 (18. a4 $1 $16) 18... Bxd5 19.
exd5 Nf4
20. a4 $6 (20. Bxf4 exf4 21. c4 Re8+ 22. Kf2 Qb6+ 23. Kg2) 20... Nxd5
(20...
Nxh3 21. Bxh3+ Kb8 22. axb5 axb5 23. Ba7+ Qxa7 24. Rxa7 Kxa7 25. Qe3+)
21. axb5
Nxe3 22. Qxe3 d5 23. Rh4 e4 (23... d4 $142 24. Qxe5 Qxf3 25. Bh3+ Kb7
26. bxa6+
Ka8 27. Qe4+ Qxe4+ 28. Rxe4 Bxb4+ 29. Ke2) 24. fxe4 axb5 25. Ra7 Qc6
26. exd5
Qe8 27. Re4 Bxb4+ 28. Kf2 Qxe4 29. Bh3+ 1-0

[Event "Plus-Score Micro-Tour"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2000.10.01"]
[Round "2.2"]
[White "Palos, Osman"]
[Black "Brock, Bill"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C42"]
[Annotator "Fritz 5.32 (100s), Bill Brock"]
[PlyCount "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. c3 d5 6. d3 Nf6 7. Bg5
Be7 8. Be2
$146 (8. h3 O-O 9. Be2 Re8 10. O-O Nc6 11. Be3 Bd6 12. Nbd2 Ne7 13. Re1
Nf5 14.
Nf1 Nxe3 15. Nxe3 c6 16. Nd2 Qb6 17. Qb3 Be6 18. d4 Re7 19. Bd3 g6 20.
Nf3 Rae8
21. Qc2 Bb8 22. Re2 Qc7 23. Rae1 Nh5 24. Ng4 Kg7 25. Re3 Nf4 {
Palos,O-Schieder,J/Graz 1995/EXT 98/1-0 (71)}) 8... c6 9. O-O O-O 10.
h3 Re8
11. Nbd2 Nbd7 12. Re1 Nf8 13. Bf1 h6 14. Be3 Bd6 15. Qa4 Bd7 16. Qc2
Ng6 17. a4
Nf4 18. a5 N6h5 19. b4 Re6 20. Bd4 Rg6 21. Kh1 Qc8 22. Ng1 $2 Nxg2 $1
23. Bxg2
Rxg2 24. Kxg2 Nf4+ 25. Kh1 $2 (25. Kh2 $5 Bxh3 (25... Nxd3+ $5 26. Kh1
Nxe1 (
26... Bf5 27. Qd1 Nxe1 28. Qxe1 Bxh3 29. Qe3 Bg4) 27. Rxe1 Bxh3 28. Qd3
Bf5) (
25... Ne2+ $2 26. Kh1 Nxd4 27. cxd4 Bxh3 28. Re3 $16) 26. Re3 Nxd3+ 27.
Rg3 Bf5
28. Qa2 Bxg3+ 29. fxg3 Qe6 $44) (25. Kf3 $1 $13) 25... Bxh3 26. Re3
Bg2+ 27.
Kh2 Qg4 28. Rg3 Qh5+ 29. Nh3 Bxh3 (29... Bxh3 30. Qd1 Bg4+ 31. Kg1 Bxd1
32.
Rxg7+ Kf8 $19) 30. f3 Ne2 0-1

Sam Sloan wrote:

Come on, Sam, LET'S PLAY. I've got my share of the prize fund, how about you?

Randy Bauer

We have been through this before.

The actual playing strength of Beatriz is now about 1950. She is held
at 2200 because she is USCF President on her ratings floor.

Since you beat her 3-1, that makes you a 2150 player which is also
about what I figured your present strength to be.

Sam Sloan

Sloan is scared.

MN

As well as a ****wit.

MH

Bill has beaten some excellent players.



wrote in message
oups.com...
[Event "Prairie State Inv"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1986.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Brock, Bill"]
[Black "Giles, Morris"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B81"]
[Annotator "Bill Brock"]
[PlyCount "57"]
[EventDate "1986.??.??"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. g4 a6 7. g5 Nfd7
8. Be3
b5 9. a3 Bb7 10. h4 Nc6 11. Nxc6 Bxc6 12. Qd4 Qb8 13. h5 Qb7 14. Rh3
Nc5 15. f3
O-O-O 16. b4 e5 17. Qd2 Ne6 18. Nd5 $6 (18. a4 $1 $16) 18... Bxd5 19.
exd5 Nf4
20. a4 $6 (20. Bxf4 exf4 21. c4 Re8+ 22. Kf2 Qb6+ 23. Kg2) 20... Nxd5
(20...
Nxh3 21. Bxh3+ Kb8 22. axb5 axb5 23. Ba7+ Qxa7 24. Rxa7 Kxa7 25. Qe3+)
21. axb5
Nxe3 22. Qxe3 d5 23. Rh4 e4 (23... d4 $142 24. Qxe5 Qxf3 25. Bh3+ Kb7
26. bxa6+
Ka8 27. Qe4+ Qxe4+ 28. Rxe4 Bxb4+ 29. Ke2) 24. fxe4 axb5 25. Ra7 Qc6
26. exd5
Qe8 27. Re4 Bxb4+ 28. Kf2 Qxe4 29. Bh3+ 1-0

[Event "Plus-Score Micro-Tour"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2000.10.01"]
[Round "2.2"]
[White "Palos, Osman"]
[Black "Brock, Bill"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C42"]
[Annotator "Fritz 5.32 (100s), Bill Brock"]
[PlyCount "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. c3 d5 6. d3 Nf6 7. Bg5
Be7 8. Be2
$146 (8. h3 O-O 9. Be2 Re8 10. O-O Nc6 11. Be3 Bd6 12. Nbd2 Ne7 13. Re1
Nf5 14.
Nf1 Nxe3 15. Nxe3 c6 16. Nd2 Qb6 17. Qb3 Be6 18. d4 Re7 19. Bd3 g6 20.
Nf3 Rae8
21. Qc2 Bb8 22. Re2 Qc7 23. Rae1 Nh5 24. Ng4 Kg7 25. Re3 Nf4 {
Palos,O-Schieder,J/Graz 1995/EXT 98/1-0 (71)}) 8... c6 9. O-O O-O 10.
h3 Re8
11. Nbd2 Nbd7 12. Re1 Nf8 13. Bf1 h6 14. Be3 Bd6 15. Qa4 Bd7 16. Qc2
Ng6 17. a4
Nf4 18. a5 N6h5 19. b4 Re6 20. Bd4 Rg6 21. Kh1 Qc8 22. Ng1 $2 Nxg2 $1
23. Bxg2
Rxg2 24. Kxg2 Nf4+ 25. Kh1 $2 (25. Kh2 $5 Bxh3 (25... Nxd3+ $5 26. Kh1
Nxe1 (
26... Bf5 27. Qd1 Nxe1 28. Qxe1 Bxh3 29. Qe3 Bg4) 27. Rxe1 Bxh3 28. Qd3
Bf5) (
25... Ne2+ $2 26. Kh1 Nxd4 27. cxd4 Bxh3 28. Re3 $16) 26. Re3 Nxd3+ 27.
Rg3 Bf5
28. Qa2 Bxg3+ 29. fxg3 Qe6 $44) (25. Kf3 $1 $13) 25... Bxh3 26. Re3
Bg2+ 27.
Kh2 Qg4 28. Rg3 Qh5+ 29. Nh3 Bxh3 (29... Bxh3 30. Qd1 Bg4+ 31. Kg1 Bxd1
32.
Rxg7+ Kf8 $19) 30. f3 Ne2 0-1

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:50:03 GMT, "Randy Bauer"
wrote:

Bill has beaten some excellent players.

I am not disputing that Bill is a real chess player. I have seen his
results.

I am disputing that you, Randy, who has never played a rated game in
eight years, are a real chess player.

Sam Sloan