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Sloan Wins Game 2 of the 2005 RGCP Grudge Match



 
 
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Old June 26th 05, 10:31 PM
Matt Nemmers
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Default Sloan Wins Game 2 of the 2005 RGCP Grudge Match

In a stunning upset, Sloan came out ahead in the second round of the
RGCP Grudge Match currently underway on ICC. Kibitzers were
dumbfounded at whites 22nd and 26th moves when Bill had a clear win,
only to turn on his heels and do an about face into a lost endgame.
(Comments courtesy of yours truly.)

[Event "2005 RGCP Grudge Match"]
[Site "ICC"]
[Date "2005.06.26"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Brock, Bill"]
[Black "Sloan, Sam"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D08"]
[WhiteElo "2049"]
[BlackElo "1913"]
[Annotator "Nemmers,Matthew"]
[PlyCount "102"]
[TimeControl "180"]

{190MB, Fritz8.ctg, AMY-DESKTOP} 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 d4 4. a3 Nc6
5. Nf3 Nge7 6. g3 Ng6 7. Bg5 Qd7 8. Bg2 Ngxe5 9. Nbd2 Nxf3+ 10. Nxf3 f6
11. Bf4 g5 12. Bc1 Bg7 13. O-O Qd6 14. b4 Be6 15. c5 Qd7 16. b5 Na5 17.
Nxd4 Rd8 18. Bb2 Bd5 19. e4 Bc4 20. Nf5 Bxf1 21. Qh5+ Qf7 22. Qxf7+ $2
(22. Nxg7+ $1) 22... Kxf7 23.Bxf1 Rhe8 24. Bc3 b6 25. cxb6 axb6 26.
Nxg7 $2 {Good knight for bad bishop??}
Kxg7 27. f3 Nb3 28. Re1 Nd4 29. Kf2 Nc2 30. Rc1 Nd4 31. Bb4 Rd7 32. Bh3
Rf7 33.Rc4 Nxb5 34. a4 Nd6 35. Bxd6 cxd6 36. Rc6 Rb8 37. Rxd6 Ra7 38.
Rd7+ Rxd7 39.Bxd7 Rd8 40. Bb5 Rd2+ 41. Ke3 Rxh2 42. g4 Kf7 43. Kd4 Ke6
44. Kd3 Ke5 45. Ke3 Rb2 46. Bd3 Rb3 47. Ke2 Kd4 48. Bb5 Rb2+ 49. Kd1
Ke3 50. Bc6 Rb4 51. Kc2 Rc4+ 0-1

For anyone curious (and with nothing better to do), here's the text of
the round 2 kibitzing:

--- Game 513: *BillBrock vs *SamSloan ---
GRUDGE05 sets the time control to 75 0 75 0.
zoey kibitzes: t guessthemove e4
zoey kibitzes: hmmm..... Brock-Sloan or Adams-Hydra...... Tough
choice...... Which to choose... Which to choose.....
zoey kibitzes: )
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: worth watching just to see what sort of
opening sam sloan will uncork.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I'm betting Damiano or Schliemann. Maybe
Latvian Gambit
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: d4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: d5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: c4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: e5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: dxe5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: d4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: a3
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: OK, didn't work against e4, but he still
played something stupid.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Larry stepped out so I will be a little slow
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nc6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nf3
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: larry is back
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Poor Sam, even his openings are a desperate
plea for attention.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nge7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: g3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ng6
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Sam commented between rounds that he did not want a
draw in the first game because it would still take either player 2 more
games to win the match.
zoey kibitzes: but he wouldn't be behind
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: He was going for victory in 2 games so he
could have the rest of the day off. Seems silly now.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bg5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qd7
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: That's what I was hoping for so I could get hom
earlier.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: the way this match is going, you will
probably be home by 7pm
HAASpittle kibitzes: Is this a King's Indian or a Petroff?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Albin countergambit
HAASpittle kibitzes: Alvin's CounterGambit, eh?
HAASpittle kibitzes: I'd play h4 here
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I'm guessing you aren't a d4 player
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Between rounds Larry and Sam chatted amiably. When
Larry went out Bill and Sam finally talked a bit.
HAASpittle kibitzes: I love d4
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: shocking
Kibitzto 513 Damn. I was really hoping Bill would play 1.e4 so he
could show Sloan how unsound the Damiano is.
Nemmers kibitzes: Damn. I was really hoping Bill would play 1.e4 so he
could show Sloan how unsound the Damiano is.
(kibitzed to 23 people)
HAASpittle kibitzes: dd44
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bg2
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ngxe5
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I'm guessing you don't look at openings too much
then
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: maybe Ray Gordon can help you with that
HAASpittle kibitzes: I know the Queen's Goiter like the back of my
hand.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: On the way over here, Sam confided that he expected
Bill to be prepped for the Damiano.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: as he wasn't prep'ed for the Grob?!?!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nbd2
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Surprised Sam didn't play the Garbage Gambit;
1. d4 e5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxf3+
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxf3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: f6
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Bill is nodding his head at Sam's last move. First
reaction I have seen from him.
HAASpittle kibitzes: the B shud maybe go back to c1
HAASpittle kibitzes: then to b2, huh?
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bf4
HAASpittle kibitzes: loses a tempo
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: g5
HAASpittle kibitzes: see
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Another coffeehouse attack coming up.
HAASpittle kibitzes: black flings his kside with gain in tempo
GRUDGE05 set *SamSloan's clock to 01:07:54
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bc1
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:59:54
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: So what crap will Sam have on tap for G3? 1.
a3?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Larry Parr suggested 1h4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bg7
autobot(*) whispers: Brock won g #1? and this is g2?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: correct
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: yes
autobot(*) whispers: thanks
autobot(*) whispers: ah he mated him up :-)
autobot(*) whispers: thanks to the sponsors for making this possible
HAASpittle kibitzes: Is Larry Parr watching this?
autobot(*) whispers: hahaha
autobot(*) whispers: Parr is busy with breaking news: Leko may have
been dead all along after all.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: O-O
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qd6
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: oops
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: this is going to be a short match
HAASpittle kibitzes: b4 has some risks at this point
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: 14.b4 looks quite strong.
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: holy crap. It's the best chess writer in the world!
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Goran Tomic is here?
HAASpittle kibitzes: who?
Kibitzto 513 14.e3 (+0.63)
Nemmers kibitzes: 14.e3 (+0.63)
(kibitzed to 24 people)
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: Eric Schiller!
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Haasie, were you *ever* anything but clueless?
HAASpittle kibitzes: No, I'm pretty clued in.
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I have a great idea
MatdeInverses kibitzes: to which alternate reality? The Mensaverse?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: He and Ray Gordon should do a book together!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: b4
dogzdad kibitzes: who g513
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Be6
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Ray and who? Sam?
Kibitzto 513 15.c5!
Nemmers kibitzes: 15.c5!
(kibitzed to 25 people)
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: 15.c5 and 16.b5, queenside massacre coming
rwd kibitzes: yup
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: c5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qd7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: b5
roastednuts kibitzes: what the heck is this?
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:44:43
Kibitzto 513 It's an ass-kickin'.
Nemmers kibitzes: It's an ass-kickin'.
(kibitzed to 28 people)
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Sam's bogus opening is being taken to the
cleaners.
roastednuts kibitzes: yeah but why are they playing
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: for $1000
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Cause Sloan doesn't know he's a fish.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Don't blame the ALbin, it is the ridiculous
....f6, ...g5 that has caused all the trouble.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: This is *not* Morozevich's Albin!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Na5
Kibitzto 513 http://tinyurl.com/895r3
Nemmers kibitzes: http://tinyurl.com/895r3
(kibitzed to 29 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: No, we weren't in any danger of mistaking Sam
for Morozovich
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I've actually heard that your Big Book of Busts is a
good book, JackStraw
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: isn't there an updated version of it though?
HAASpittle kibitzes: black will get some counterplay here
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: what's the newer one called?
zoey kibitzes: The Bigger Book of Busts?
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Not an uodated version, but a reprint is
available from Hardinge-Simpole as "Handbook of Tricky Opening
Strategies"
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: most people say your books are really bad usually so
I tend to stay away from them
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: but I read a good review of that one and it sounded
interesting
rwd kibitzes: Qd6 was a real lemon
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: But John Watson and I have a newer book, just
on 1.e4 e5 tricks, called "Survive and Beat Annoying Chess Openings".
We are working on the 1.d4 d5 volume and hope to cover all the rest in
a third volume next year.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hi all
HAASpittle kibitzes: why was it a lemon?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: what`s the score ?
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Brock 1 Sloan 0
Jerzy64 kibitzes: i can see Sam is better now
Jerzy64 kibitzes: go Sam, go ! ;-)
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: and sam is about to be cracked open...
offramp kibitzes: Sloan is better; where shold he castle
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxd4
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Reviews are mostly written by wannabees and
never-weres, who think it is trivially easy to write a book. Look at
all books yourself, you can figure out whether it will be useful for
you.
MikeMurray kibitzes: better? better bring him a bucket
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: In the Albin, most of Black's compensation is
in the form of a strong pawn at d4. R.I.P.
offramp kibitzes: that is a panicky move... Karpov would have waited
roastednuts kibitzes: how many games in this match
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: And if you buy a book at a bookstore, you can
always take it back :-)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: how many games they play ?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: that is based on the theory, and we
already agreed before you came on JackStraw, that Sam doesn't pay
attention to the theory.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Sam has his own theories, lots of them
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: only one so far. this is the second. one
or two more to go after this.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: 4 game match--brock giving draw odds
Jerzy64 kibitzes: it`s too short
roastednuts kibitzes: JackStraw, I thought your Complete Defense to
Queen Pawn openings was a good book
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Give him points for consistency, he honestly
believes the g-pawn should move forward as soon as possible, a full two
squares
Jerzy64 kibitzes: they should play at least 6 games
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Thanks, roasted
dogzdad kibitzes: thanks for helping finance the 6 game match jerzy
offramp kibitzes: Whaddya reckon, bh3?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Yep. And he demonstrated that in G1 by
being soundly thrashed.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: And Sam's games are often high in entertainment
value
roastednuts kibitzes: doesn't Sam play 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 sometimes?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: finance ? LOL
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Yes, roasted, he is convinced it is sound
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you folks take too seriously such matters
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: There is a collection of some of his games at
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=10021
roastednuts kibitzes: sound? lol
offramp kibitzes: this is a cool position; it is unbalanced
Jerzy64 kibitzes: i won`t give a cent for this match
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Shouldn't need to get this fancy against Sam,
though.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Sam is a celebrity Bill is noone
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: LOL
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Being on the post office wall doesn't make you
a celebrity.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Bill is an utter moron as a matter of fact
sloan kibitzes: just signed on - what's the score, please?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Maybe he is. But it doesn't take much to beat
Sam. A moron should do the job just fine.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: brock 1 - sloan 0
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: O-O-O
Jerzy64 kibitzes: francoprussian ? where is it ?
sloan kibitzes: vielen dank
sloan kibitzes: is game 1 available?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: It wasn't pretty.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Now that is a bit extreme FrancoPrussian?
At least Sloan plays. Here he is, travelled all the way to Chicago to
lose to Brock. That says something.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: A sloppy Grob. Sam was a piece down within a
dozen moves.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: It says he thinks he'll win.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: tyrone where do you live ? tijuana ?
sloan kibitzes: I enjoy trainwrecks - is it online?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I would hope so. It would make even less
sense to make the trip if he didn't believe it himself.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: taylor knows some very good places in tijuana :-)))
Jerzy64 kibitzes: have you been there already tyrone ?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: of course ;-)
offramp kibitzes: castling q-side is so cool
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I wasn't criticizing Sam for playing chess, I
was criticizing him for being dishonest, somewhat mentally disturbed,
and all the usual rigamarole.
roastednuts kibitzes: what is brock's rating?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: so taylor is a kind of virgin
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Question is, how soon can White effectively
play c6?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: or is he a priest maybe ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Brock's 2000-something.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: it`s 2005 folks
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: No, I think it's more like 2030-something.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: 2038? I think someone said that was his
rating.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: francoprussian where is it ?
rwd kibitzes: seems like c6 is an immediate threat after Be3
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Brock 2042, Sloan 1931
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Depends what it is.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you guys have funny nicks
Jerzy64 kibitzes: tijuanaslothrope
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: What about grudge05?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: What happened to grudge 01-04?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: franocprussian
Jerzy64 kibitzes: all 513
Jerzy64 kibitzes: jurgen rat
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: I assume 05 = 2005. This is the first
annual grudge match. Next year we'll be all creative and use GRUDGE06.
;-)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: son of a hitler
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Sam has a lot more than one grudge a year.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: the way that sam plays, i don't think he's
going to get an invite to Grudge'06 ;-)
autobot(*) whispers: PLEASE don't use the H-word
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: How was this match set up?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: autobot pls KICK him
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Perhaps all candidates for USCF office should
be required to play a GRUDGE tournament each election season.
SqueenchyBobo kibitzes: After 18.Be3 or Bb7 Fritz says White's about
+3.3
Jerzy64 kibitzes: i dont like racists
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hwe should be banned !
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Whose idea was this?
autobot(*) whispers: Let's have a truce during the games please
Jerzy64 kibitzes: for what he writes on rgc !
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: How will this settle that?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Is it a loser leaves town match?
sloan kibitzes: Qa4?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: sounds good. well as a sponsor of
grudge'05, I wouldn't mind kicking in something for grudge'06, but it
should be for players who don't start game #1 with 1.g4
Jerzy64 kibitzes: autobot who are you ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: vince ?
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb2
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: had to monitor bathroom breaks--just got back
SqueenchyBobo kibitzes: Not bad, but I liked Be3, pointing the B at
Black's K.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Is anyone progging this game?
HAASpittle kibitzes: if BN moves off a5, White has an immediate attack
on b7
SqueenchyBobo kibitzes: Black may have to play Bd5 now, or 19.f6 hurts.
offramp kibitzes: superb game ; high tension - there may be a few
blunders
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: White threatens Bxb7+ followed by c6, even with
the knight at a5.
SqueenchyBobo kibitzes: Sorry, I meant 19.c6 would hurt.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Qf7 - +
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: well offramp, this game has turned out A
LOT better than the first...
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bd5
offramp kibitzes: ...Nc4 - e5 looks good!
Jerzy64 kibitzes: not well Sam
GRUDGE05 set *SamSloan's clock to 00:44:45
Jerzy64 kibitzes: where is matt nemmers ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: in the hour of need ?
Kibitzto 513 Right here.
Nemmers kibitzes: Right here.
(kibitzed to 31 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:35:45
HAASpittle kibitzes: I'm hitt'n the freezer for a bowl of ice cream
Kibitzto 513 20.Qa4!
Nemmers kibitzes: 20.Qa4!
(kibitzed to 29 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Qa4?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Re1 f5 ! -+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: oops, mistake three moves back
MatdeInverses kibitzes: c6 first?
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd8
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb2
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bd5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: e4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bc4
Kibitzto 513 ??
Nemmers kibitzes: ??
(kibitzed to 28 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: that is a whole different ball game
rwd kibitzes: Oops!
Jerzy64 kibitzes: oops we have problems houston
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nf5
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: really?
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bxf1
Jerzy64 kibitzes: yeah
MatdeInverses kibitzes: ouch doesnt he calculate anything?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: go Sam squeeze him
Kibitzto 513 21.Qh5+!!
Nemmers kibitzes: 21.Qh5+!!
(kibitzed to 29 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: my humblest apologies
Kibitzto 513 You're FIRED, Vince.
Nemmers kibitzes: You're FIRED, Vince.
(kibitzed to 29 people)
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: is it correct now?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: he just busted himself
MatdeInverses kibitzes: not that it wasnt close
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: funny thing was, it all made sense :-)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Sam was obviously winning
Jerzy64 kibitzes: but missed his chance
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qh5+
Kibitzto 513 Where?
Nemmers kibitzes: Where?
(kibitzed to 28 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: obviously winning??
Jerzy64 kibitzes: yeah folks obviously
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Jerzy is our comedy relief. Just laugh, don't
ask questions.
MatdeInverses kibitzes: you'll have to show me
Jerzy64 kibitzes: ayway he still has some chances
MatdeInverses kibitzes: this is lost
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Kf8
Jerzy64 kibitzes: einzige zug
MatdeInverses kibitzes: do you see that g5 hangs later?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: not really
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: What's this, for Christ's sake?
Kibitzto 513 It's an ass-kickin'.
Nemmers kibitzes: It's an ass-kickin'.
(kibitzed to 34 people)
ramon-t whispers: ?
ramon-t whispers: who are these guys
ramon-t whispers: ?
Kibitzto 513 Usenet posters at rec.games.chess.politics
Nemmers kibitzes: Usenet posters at rec.games.chess.politics
(kibitzed to 34 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: if you dont know you dont care
rob-ander kibitzes: whats their rating?
Kibitzto 513 W: 2048, B: 1913
Nemmers kibitzes: W: 2048, B: 1913
(kibitzed to 34 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: 2000/1900
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:27:42
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: why can't we put ratings in the game here?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: everyone keeps asking that
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: Well, I knew that, Sam Sloan is a.... well,
hmz
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bill is an utter moron
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: what's the command?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: wrating and brating?
GRUDGE05 set *SamSloan's clock to 00:39:00
Jerzy64 kibitzes: where such folks are born ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: Moron1- Moron2
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nope, Sam is different
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: where is this game played?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: chicago
Jerzy64 kibitzes: he has his own style folks
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: Sam has the most disgusting complot theories,
hasn't he?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: unique style
Jerzy64 kibitzes: grand dutch ? where is it ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Kibitzto 513 Sam's a friggin' oxygen-thieving jackass.
Nemmers kibitzes: Sam's a friggin' oxygen-thieving jackass.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: www.samsloan.com, it's really weird
Jerzy64 kibitzes: dutchman you envy Sam that`s all
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: I always keep laughing about the lay-out of
that site
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qf7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qxf7+
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kxf7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bxf1
MatdeInverses kibitzes: ???
Jerzy64 kibitzes: still 0-1 for Sam
Kibitzto 513 That wasn't good.
Nemmers kibitzes: That wasn't good.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Nxg7, correct?
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: yeah, I envy him, I would just love to have
such a beautiful web site and such a wonderful playing strengh
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: i told you bill is an utter moron
Kibitzto 513 Why not 22.Nxg7+
Nemmers kibitzes: Why not 22.Nxg7+
(kibitzed to 34 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: yeah what I said
Jerzy64 kibitzes: thats why he is a moron
GRUDGE05 sets White's name to BillBrock-2042.
Kibitzto 513 Vince, are you SURE you got that right?
Nemmers kibitzes: Vince, are you SURE you got that right?
(kibitzed to 33 people)
Kibitzto 513
Nemmers kibitzes:
(kibitzed to 33 people)
HAASpittle kibitzes: Nxg6+ was the move.
Kibitzto 513 You mean, Nxg7+
Nemmers kibitzes: You mean, Nxg7+
(kibitzed to 33 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Nxg7 Haasie
GRUDGE05 sets Black's name to SamSloan 1931.
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: does he still have that aweful MIDI music on his
website?
Kibitzto 513 Of course he does.
Nemmers kibitzes: Of course he does.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
GRUDGE05 sets Black's name to SamSloan-1931.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: if you dont like just turn it off dude
HAASpittle kibitzes: Sam shud play Bf7 for the moment
Jerzy64 kibitzes: listen to ozzy
ramon-t whispers: ozzy
ramon-t whispers: lol
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rhe8
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nice to see you Haasie
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: Bc3 Nb3 I'd love to see that
Jerzy64 kibitzes: thats why you are a patzer dutch
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: why?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: is Bill trying to prove some point? Nxg7+ was
so obvious
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Sam is better folks
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you should accept this
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Kibitzto 513 Wrongo.
Nemmers kibitzes: Wrongo.
(kibitzed to 32 people)
sloan kibitzes: he'll find a creative way to blow it
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bongo
Kibitzto 513 Shlongo.
Nemmers kibitzes: Shlongo.
(kibitzed to 31 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nemmongo
Kibitzto 513 Bizongo
Nemmers kibitzes: Bizongo
(kibitzed to 31 people)
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: both players make a share of mistakes. if
that wasn't true, at least one of them would be a GM then, wouldn't
they be?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nene nemmongo i like the expression
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bc3
Jerzy64 kibitzes: GM Tomic
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: I don't understand White's play, 22.Nxg7+ Kf8
and then capturing on f1 was quite obvious.
MatdeInverses kibitzes: yeah but that was a one mover, Bill plays
better than that
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Over all, I'm impressed that they've kept
it together in G2 this long.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Intenet GM
Jerzy64 kibitzes: internet
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: b6
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehedutch you are a patzer
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: why, please tell me?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you bet on the wrong horse
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: I said I'd love to see Nb3 Bc4, it would be
great fun, but the chances of that would be very unlikely
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: cxb6
Kibitzto 513 Dutch, Jerzy isn't serious. He props Sloan up to get a
rise out of people.
Nemmers kibitzes: Dutch, Jerzy isn't serious. He props Sloan up to get
a rise out of people.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: absolutely winning for Sam unless Vince made another
mistake :-))
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Yeah, his rating is too high to believe the
nonsense he's spouting. He's just trolling.
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: i'd like to see an terrible war with the US as
victim instead of a villain, but the chances of that happening aren't
very big either
MatdeInverses kibitzes: sort of the attention pimp for the attention
whore, Matt?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: dutch are Lassen ?
Kibitzto 513 LOL! Exactly.
Nemmers kibitzes: LOL! Exactly.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: dutch who are you ?
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: I am who I am
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: It looks like I have the position correct
Jerzy64 kibitzes: cb6 -+
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: too bad. that queenside castle was sweet.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: or ab6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: axb6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxg7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kxg7
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe good knight for a bad bishop LOL
MatdeInverses kibitzes: that was surreal
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bill is not only a moron but patzer as well
Kibitzto 513 This CAN'T be right.....
Nemmers kibitzes: This CAN'T be right.....
(kibitzed to 34 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You just said he was losing anyway, jerzy.
autobot(*) whispers: fat lady aint sung yet
Jerzy64 kibitzes: GO SAM GO !!!
MatdeInverses kibitzes: I think Sloan knocked everyone else out and
took over the computer
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Of course we all knew you were lying, but you
did say it.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: f3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nb3
GRUDGE05 set *SamSloan-1931's clock to 00:32:19
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock-2042's clock to 00:20:20
Jerzy64 kibitzes: easy win for Sam
autobot(*) whispers: this looks won for sam though anyone fritzin this
game?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: what for dude ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: cant you play by yourself ?
MikeMurray kibitzes: about even, according to Fritz
MatdeInverses kibitzes: moves 22 and 26 were so odd no one is bothering
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: What Fritz thinks is irrelevant to what's
going to happen in this game.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe Fritz
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: FrancoPrussian is exactly right!
Jerzy64 kibitzes: maybe Juergen the Rat
Jerzy64 kibitzes: has it
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Vince, can you check the position again?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: what for ? Sam is winnig
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Bill should resign immediately if he has any honour
Jerzy64 kibitzes: left
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: LOL.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: What you see is what they got
MatdeInverses kibitzes: same let himself be mated, maybe Bill will do
the same
Kibitzto 513 28.Re1
Nemmers kibitzes: 28.Re1
(kibitzed to 33 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: sam that is
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: "He should resign immediately before Sam blows
it... Er, that is..."
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Re1
Jerzy64 kibitzes: franco prussian another idiotic nick
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: That's it, Bubbi.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: are you nick the boobaki ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I deliberately made a stupid name just so you
wouldn't feel so bad about having to shill for attention, and this is
the thanks I get.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: How can we save log of these kibitzing
conversations?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: just type save *
Jerzy64 kibitzes: and then tranlate into Russian
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nd4
Kibitzto 513 Oooh. Nd2 was better, I think.
Nemmers kibitzes: Oooh. Nd2 was better, I think.
(kibitzed to 32 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nope
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: They're about equally good. Game is about even
either way.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kf2
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Hoping for 29...Nc2? 30.Rc1!
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Jerzy64 kibitzes: why so many germans here ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I want to see how Bill explains this
afterwards. He didn't play Nxg7 when it won and he did play it when it
was no good.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bauer, juergen, bauer etc ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: schiller ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: prussian ?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Is Bauer on here?
rwd kibitzes: I don't think Ng7 was a clear win but it was better than
what he played
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Ne6 still winning
sloan kibitzes: sowieso
rwd kibitzes: I found Nf5 and later Ng7 had to believe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Sloan you are not Sam, only Ken
Jerzy64 kibitzes: :-)
Kibitzto 513 29...Rc2!
Nemmers kibitzes: 29...Rc2!
(kibitzed to 32 people)
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I remember someone with a handle 'SonofSamSloan'
Jerzy64 kibitzes: impossible move matt
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nc2
Kibitzto 513 I meant 29...Nc2!
Nemmers kibitzes: I meant 29...Nc2!
(kibitzed to 32 people)
rwd kibitzes: wow
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Yuck!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rc1
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I can see now why Jerzy was so terrified of
the game continuing.
Kibitzto 513 YES!
Nemmers kibitzes: YES!
(kibitzed to 32 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
rwd kibitzes: A clear winner now
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock-2042's clock to 00:15:30
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bill the moron has some chances
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Sam's winning chances just went back to 0.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: as usual you are patzer
Jerzy64 kibitzes: prussian
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nd4
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: LOL
Jerzy64 kibitzes: good decision by Sam
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: C'mon Jerzy, as long as you're prostituting
yourself you can't complain.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You want attention, we're giving it to you.
That means we pay your salary. We're your bosses.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: your idiotic nick makes me lugh
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: did anyone save the chat log from game #1?
I can't seem to save it.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I'm glad.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: what for tyrone ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Assuming you're telling the truth. You haven't
exactly been George Washington in this game, Jerzy.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you are patzer and patzers will be patzers
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: White might be able to win this game, but of
course it all depends on how many blunders each player can come up
with.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: That's just what you tell yourself to justify
lying about Sam's position. It's kind of pointless, isn't it? Even if
you fooled us into thinking Sam was winning when he was losing, that
doesn't help him.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You don't need to fool us, jerzy, you need to
fool Brock.
rwd kibitzes: yes Eric. There have been rather a lot
Jerzy64 kibitzes: who are you prussian another anonymous idiot ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You assume that even an idiot can make you
look foolish?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Interesting admission.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you make me laugh prussian
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb4
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Would you agree that if Sam doesn't win this
dead-won game you claim he had, that that destroys his credibility?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: still winning for Sam
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
MatdeInverses kibitzes: winning is not synonymous with won
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Yes, yes, so you DO admit that if Sam doesn't
win this, his credibility is gone.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: This is hilarious. The simple 31.Bxd4 and Rxc7+
seems to have eluded White.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: your credibilty is null anonmouse
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I'll take that as a yes, then.
rwd kibitzes: yep
rwd kibitzes: White still has some pressure though
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You seem awfully simple-minded for someone
with a high rating, jerzy.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: schiller is right bill is hilarious :-)
rwd kibitzes: Rd7 Bh3
MatdeInverses kibitzes: how can so much be missed?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Bxd4 couldn't have been missed, it must have
been rejected.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: But again the question is why?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: prussian you could learn sth from wiser than you
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: this game will simply be determined by who
makes the last blunder. but that is nothing new.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: In some ways, these games are as instructive as
GM games, because here everyone can spot and understand the mistakes
Jerzy64 kibitzes: but you obviously dont want
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Except Jerzy. He doesn't see it even after
it's past.
rwd kibitzes: its always easier to kibitz than to find moves with the
clock ticking
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Jerzy64 kibitzes: patzers will be patzers
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd7
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: A comedy of errors, a tale told by an idiot,
thrills and spills with even the most obvious plans overlooked :-)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I know, but Bxd4 and Nxg7 are moves you'd
expect to be found in a 1 0 game.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Interesting admission again, jerzy.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nice trap by Sam
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bh3
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: But aren't they supposed to be playing for a
cash prize?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Brock isn't. He gives it all away if he wins.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: yes. $1000. and Sloan's ticket and hotel
was paid for by the sponsors.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: And Sam isn't putting up his own stakes. That
may explain some of his play.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: He still is playing for money. Just
donating any winnings to his charities.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: No, Sam is trying as hard as he can. He is
betting is "reputation" on this match, and he's running for USCF board.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: He doesn't stand to win money, but he does
stand to lose it. That ought to provide some incentive.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rf7
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Sam has no reputation. In fact, from his point
of view, it's probably better to lose.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: oh those germans
MikeMurray kibitzes: Bill, by winning, prevents Sam from getting the
pot. That's incentive for him.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: But what quality of game is this, do you think:
A-player? B-player? C-player?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: A B C men what are you talking about ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: If Sam wins, big deal. He won a chess match.
But if he loses, he can make up some rinky-dink excuse and have the
entire newsgroup pay attention to him telling him how stupid his excuse
is.
Kibitzto 513 This is true.
Nemmers kibitzes: This is true.
(kibitzed to 31 people)
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: USCF (1800, 1600, 1400). If I didn't know the
players, I'd put this as a game between two 1600-1700 players.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: He gets more attention from losing than from
winning, and since we all know what's REALLY important to Sam, that
might keep him from putting his all into these games.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: But I think Sam still would prefer the
money. Sam is not donating to charity!
Kibitzto 513 I'm still trying to figure out why Bill played 22.Qxf7+
and 26.Nxg7
Nemmers kibitzes: I'm still trying to figure out why Bill played
22.Qxf7+ and 26.Nxg7
(kibitzed to 31 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: That's true. Money vs. attention. I don't know
what he wants more, but he wins either way, doesn't he?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: charity ? guys dont you pay your taxes ??
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rc4
Jerzy64 kibitzes: well Nxb5 -+
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxb5
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nice Sam
Jerzy64 kibitzes: easy win
rwd kibitzes: Well that was just ridiculous
MikeMurray kibitzes: Time pressure approaches
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: There may still be blunders to come.
Inconnux kibitzes: i just arrived how many games have they played???
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: 1 game. First round Brock 1 - Sloan 0
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Bill is a pathetic moron and as I can see he deserves
this title
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: this 2nd round, well it seems Sloan is
winning.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Jerzy's almost telling the truth for once.
He's had to play pretty bad not to win this game.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Of course the goat in Sam could still rise to
the surface, but for the moment, he's ahead.
Inconnux kibitzes: yeah i would say sam is winning this one
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: time crunch will kill Brock
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: a4
Jerzy64 kibitzes: right inconnux
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nd6
Quoyle kibitzes: Is this sudden death
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bxd6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: cxd6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rc6
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Ra8
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock-2042's clock to 00:04:59
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb8
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rxd6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ra7
Kibitzto 513 Bd7
Nemmers kibitzes: Bd7
(kibitzed to 34 people)
rwd kibitzes: Bf5
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Now, if White doesn't find Bf5, the fix really
is in.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd7+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Kibitzto 513 Going for a draw?
Nemmers kibitzes: Going for a draw?
(kibitzed to 36 people)
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rxd7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bxd7
Jerzy64 kibitzes: man man man
Jerzy64 kibitzes: real moron
Inconnux kibitzes: ????
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Bill
Jerzy64 kibitzes: kill bill
Jerzy64 kibitzes: kill bill 3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd8
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb5
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Man, even Jerzy could do better than this.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd2+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: prussian russian
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You disagree?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: he can draw even without that pawn
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You disagree?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: he can draw even without that pawn
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Maybe, but with under 4 minutes, you have to
think that Black ought to win.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke3
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rxh2
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: nah it's just not working in Jin
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: it works with FICS just fine
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: g4
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I tried
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: mistell
Kibitzto 513 42...h5!
Nemmers kibitzes: 42...h5!
(kibitzed to 36 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: h5 speeds the draw
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: nah it's not working in Jin
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: If Sam plays h5, I wonder if Bill will see
gxh5?
Kibitzto 513 You think?
Nemmers kibitzes: You think?
(kibitzed to 36 people)
MikeMurray kibitzes: Lunch is Swiss cheese
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nope matt it`s better to centrlize your king
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: ugg i just changed windows and it's still kibitzing
to this one
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kf7
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Kf7-e5 -+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: good work Sam
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Less bad work than Bill, Sam!
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: This was probably sloan's strategy all
along. throw game1 and get Brock overconfident.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Throw game 1, AND give Bill a winning position
in Game 2, hoping he'll blow it? I don't think even Sam would do that.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kd4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kd3
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: OK. it was a joke :-)
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke3
Jerzy64 kibitzes: thats right tyrone fischer also blew two first games
with spassky
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Ra2-a3 and Kf4
Jerzy64 kibitzes: check and mate
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb2
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bd3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke2
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Now it's Brock's turn to play on too long.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: AFter 47...Kf4 White should resign
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kd4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb5
Jerzy64 kibitzes: yeah he should resign much eariler but what one can
expect from a morn ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: moron
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb2+
Quoyle kibitzes: Rb2+ and Ke3 is also good enough here
rwd kibitzes: Nope he missed it
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kd1
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: I guess Sam couldn't calculate the endgame
after RxB.
sloan kibitzes: it's a grudge match - slow torture is better than a
quick kill
rwd kibitzes: lol
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: jerzy. you probably missed it, but sloan
played all the way to a checkmate in G1 without resigning...
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bc6
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Yes, but it doesn't make sense why these guys
have both let themselves be slow tortured.
Quoyle kibitzes: Rf2
sloan kibitzes: resigning involves shaking hands
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kc2
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rc4+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehehe
Game 513: Black wins
Black wins
Jerzy64 kibitzes: BRAVO SAM !!!!
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: C'mon Bill, even Sam can win thi.s
Jerzy64 kibitzes: GO SAM GO !!!!

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Old June 26th 05, 10:47 PM
Jerzy
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Matt Nemmers wrote :
For anyone curious (and with nothing better to do), here's the text of
the round 2 kibitzing:


Matt, you cut out my text about Fischer ! I can smell a censorship here.



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Old June 26th 05, 10:49 PM
Tyrone Slothrop
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Did anyone save the kibitz/chat log from Game 1?


Matt Nemmers wrote:
...

For anyone curious (and with nothing better to do), here's the text of
the round 2 kibitzing:

--- Game 513: *BillBrock vs *SamSloan ---
GRUDGE05 sets the time control to 75 0 75 0.
zoey kibitzes: t guessthemove e4
zoey kibitzes: hmmm..... Brock-Sloan or Adams-Hydra...... Tough
choice...... Which to choose... Which to choose.....
zoey kibitzes: )
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: worth watching just to see what sort of
opening sam sloan will uncork.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I'm betting Damiano or Schliemann. Maybe
Latvian Gambit
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: d4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: d5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: c4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: e5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: dxe5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: d4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: a3
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: OK, didn't work against e4, but he still
played something stupid.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Larry stepped out so I will be a little slow
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nc6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nf3
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: larry is back
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Poor Sam, even his openings are a desperate
plea for attention.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nge7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: g3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ng6
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Sam commented between rounds that he did not want a
draw in the first game because it would still take either player 2 more
games to win the match.
zoey kibitzes: but he wouldn't be behind
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: He was going for victory in 2 games so he
could have the rest of the day off. Seems silly now.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bg5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qd7
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: That's what I was hoping for so I could get hom
earlier.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: the way this match is going, you will
probably be home by 7pm
HAASpittle kibitzes: Is this a King's Indian or a Petroff?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Albin countergambit
HAASpittle kibitzes: Alvin's CounterGambit, eh?
HAASpittle kibitzes: I'd play h4 here
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I'm guessing you aren't a d4 player
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Between rounds Larry and Sam chatted amiably. When
Larry went out Bill and Sam finally talked a bit.
HAASpittle kibitzes: I love d4
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: shocking
Kibitzto 513 Damn. I was really hoping Bill would play 1.e4 so he
could show Sloan how unsound the Damiano is.
Nemmers kibitzes: Damn. I was really hoping Bill would play 1.e4 so he
could show Sloan how unsound the Damiano is.
(kibitzed to 23 people)
HAASpittle kibitzes: dd44
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bg2
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ngxe5
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I'm guessing you don't look at openings too much
then
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: maybe Ray Gordon can help you with that
HAASpittle kibitzes: I know the Queen's Goiter like the back of my
hand.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: On the way over here, Sam confided that he expected
Bill to be prepped for the Damiano.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: as he wasn't prep'ed for the Grob?!?!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nbd2
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Surprised Sam didn't play the Garbage Gambit;
1. d4 e5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxf3+
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxf3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: f6
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Bill is nodding his head at Sam's last move. First
reaction I have seen from him.
HAASpittle kibitzes: the B shud maybe go back to c1
HAASpittle kibitzes: then to b2, huh?
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bf4
HAASpittle kibitzes: loses a tempo
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: g5
HAASpittle kibitzes: see
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Another coffeehouse attack coming up.
HAASpittle kibitzes: black flings his kside with gain in tempo
GRUDGE05 set *SamSloan's clock to 01:07:54
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bc1
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:59:54
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: So what crap will Sam have on tap for G3? 1.
a3?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Larry Parr suggested 1h4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bg7
autobot(*) whispers: Brock won g #1? and this is g2?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: correct
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: yes
autobot(*) whispers: thanks
autobot(*) whispers: ah he mated him up :-)
autobot(*) whispers: thanks to the sponsors for making this possible
HAASpittle kibitzes: Is Larry Parr watching this?
autobot(*) whispers: hahaha
autobot(*) whispers: Parr is busy with breaking news: Leko may have
been dead all along after all.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: O-O
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qd6
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: oops
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: this is going to be a short match
HAASpittle kibitzes: b4 has some risks at this point
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: 14.b4 looks quite strong.
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: holy crap. It's the best chess writer in the world!
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Goran Tomic is here?
HAASpittle kibitzes: who?
Kibitzto 513 14.e3 (+0.63)
Nemmers kibitzes: 14.e3 (+0.63)
(kibitzed to 24 people)
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: Eric Schiller!
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Haasie, were you *ever* anything but clueless?
HAASpittle kibitzes: No, I'm pretty clued in.
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I have a great idea
MatdeInverses kibitzes: to which alternate reality? The Mensaverse?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: He and Ray Gordon should do a book together!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: b4
dogzdad kibitzes: who g513
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Be6
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Ray and who? Sam?
Kibitzto 513 15.c5!
Nemmers kibitzes: 15.c5!
(kibitzed to 25 people)
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: 15.c5 and 16.b5, queenside massacre coming
rwd kibitzes: yup
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: c5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qd7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: b5
roastednuts kibitzes: what the heck is this?
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:44:43
Kibitzto 513 It's an ass-kickin'.
Nemmers kibitzes: It's an ass-kickin'.
(kibitzed to 28 people)
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Sam's bogus opening is being taken to the
cleaners.
roastednuts kibitzes: yeah but why are they playing
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: for $1000
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Cause Sloan doesn't know he's a fish.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Don't blame the ALbin, it is the ridiculous
...f6, ...g5 that has caused all the trouble.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: This is *not* Morozevich's Albin!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Na5
Kibitzto 513 http://tinyurl.com/895r3
Nemmers kibitzes: http://tinyurl.com/895r3
(kibitzed to 29 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: No, we weren't in any danger of mistaking Sam
for Morozovich
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I've actually heard that your Big Book of Busts is a
good book, JackStraw
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: isn't there an updated version of it though?
HAASpittle kibitzes: black will get some counterplay here
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: what's the newer one called?
zoey kibitzes: The Bigger Book of Busts?
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Not an uodated version, but a reprint is
available from Hardinge-Simpole as "Handbook of Tricky Opening
Strategies"
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: most people say your books are really bad usually so
I tend to stay away from them
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: but I read a good review of that one and it sounded
interesting
rwd kibitzes: Qd6 was a real lemon
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: But John Watson and I have a newer book, just
on 1.e4 e5 tricks, called "Survive and Beat Annoying Chess Openings".
We are working on the 1.d4 d5 volume and hope to cover all the rest in
a third volume next year.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hi all
HAASpittle kibitzes: why was it a lemon?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: what`s the score ?
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Brock 1 Sloan 0
Jerzy64 kibitzes: i can see Sam is better now
Jerzy64 kibitzes: go Sam, go ! ;-)
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: and sam is about to be cracked open...
offramp kibitzes: Sloan is better; where shold he castle
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxd4
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Reviews are mostly written by wannabees and
never-weres, who think it is trivially easy to write a book. Look at
all books yourself, you can figure out whether it will be useful for
you.
MikeMurray kibitzes: better? better bring him a bucket
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: In the Albin, most of Black's compensation is
in the form of a strong pawn at d4. R.I.P.
offramp kibitzes: that is a panicky move... Karpov would have waited
roastednuts kibitzes: how many games in this match
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: And if you buy a book at a bookstore, you can
always take it back :-)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: how many games they play ?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: that is based on the theory, and we
already agreed before you came on JackStraw, that Sam doesn't pay
attention to the theory.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Sam has his own theories, lots of them
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: only one so far. this is the second. one
or two more to go after this.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: 4 game match--brock giving draw odds
Jerzy64 kibitzes: it`s too short
roastednuts kibitzes: JackStraw, I thought your Complete Defense to
Queen Pawn openings was a good book
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Give him points for consistency, he honestly
believes the g-pawn should move forward as soon as possible, a full two
squares
Jerzy64 kibitzes: they should play at least 6 games
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Thanks, roasted
dogzdad kibitzes: thanks for helping finance the 6 game match jerzy
offramp kibitzes: Whaddya reckon, bh3?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Yep. And he demonstrated that in G1 by
being soundly thrashed.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: And Sam's games are often high in entertainment
value
roastednuts kibitzes: doesn't Sam play 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 sometimes?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: finance ? LOL
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Yes, roasted, he is convinced it is sound
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you folks take too seriously such matters
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: There is a collection of some of his games at
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=10021
roastednuts kibitzes: sound? lol
offramp kibitzes: this is a cool position; it is unbalanced
Jerzy64 kibitzes: i won`t give a cent for this match
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Shouldn't need to get this fancy against Sam,
though.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Sam is a celebrity Bill is noone
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: LOL
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Being on the post office wall doesn't make you
a celebrity.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Bill is an utter moron as a matter of fact
sloan kibitzes: just signed on - what's the score, please?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Maybe he is. But it doesn't take much to beat
Sam. A moron should do the job just fine.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: brock 1 - sloan 0
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: O-O-O
Jerzy64 kibitzes: francoprussian ? where is it ?
sloan kibitzes: vielen dank
sloan kibitzes: is game 1 available?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: It wasn't pretty.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Now that is a bit extreme FrancoPrussian?
At least Sloan plays. Here he is, travelled all the way to Chicago to
lose to Brock. That says something.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: A sloppy Grob. Sam was a piece down within a
dozen moves.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: It says he thinks he'll win.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: tyrone where do you live ? tijuana ?
sloan kibitzes: I enjoy trainwrecks - is it online?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I would hope so. It would make even less
sense to make the trip if he didn't believe it himself.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: taylor knows some very good places in tijuana :-)))
Jerzy64 kibitzes: have you been there already tyrone ?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: of course ;-)
offramp kibitzes: castling q-side is so cool
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I wasn't criticizing Sam for playing chess, I
was criticizing him for being dishonest, somewhat mentally disturbed,
and all the usual rigamarole.
roastednuts kibitzes: what is brock's rating?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: so taylor is a kind of virgin
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Question is, how soon can White effectively
play c6?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: or is he a priest maybe ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Brock's 2000-something.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: it`s 2005 folks
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: No, I think it's more like 2030-something.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: 2038? I think someone said that was his
rating.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: francoprussian where is it ?
rwd kibitzes: seems like c6 is an immediate threat after Be3
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Brock 2042, Sloan 1931
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Depends what it is.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you guys have funny nicks
Jerzy64 kibitzes: tijuanaslothrope
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: What about grudge05?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: What happened to grudge 01-04?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: franocprussian
Jerzy64 kibitzes: all 513
Jerzy64 kibitzes: jurgen rat
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: I assume 05 = 2005. This is the first
annual grudge match. Next year we'll be all creative and use GRUDGE06.
;-)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: son of a hitler
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Sam has a lot more than one grudge a year.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: the way that sam plays, i don't think he's
going to get an invite to Grudge'06 ;-)
autobot(*) whispers: PLEASE don't use the H-word
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: How was this match set up?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: autobot pls KICK him
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Perhaps all candidates for USCF office should
be required to play a GRUDGE tournament each election season.
SqueenchyBobo kibitzes: After 18.Be3 or Bb7 Fritz says White's about
+3.3
Jerzy64 kibitzes: i dont like racists
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hwe should be banned !
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Whose idea was this?
autobot(*) whispers: Let's have a truce during the games please
Jerzy64 kibitzes: for what he writes on rgc !
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: How will this settle that?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Is it a loser leaves town match?
sloan kibitzes: Qa4?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: sounds good. well as a sponsor of
grudge'05, I wouldn't mind kicking in something for grudge'06, but it
should be for players who don't start game #1 with 1.g4
Jerzy64 kibitzes: autobot who are you ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: vince ?
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb2
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: had to monitor bathroom breaks--just got back
SqueenchyBobo kibitzes: Not bad, but I liked Be3, pointing the B at
Black's K.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Is anyone progging this game?
HAASpittle kibitzes: if BN moves off a5, White has an immediate attack
on b7
SqueenchyBobo kibitzes: Black may have to play Bd5 now, or 19.f6 hurts.
offramp kibitzes: superb game ; high tension - there may be a few
blunders
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: White threatens Bxb7+ followed by c6, even with
the knight at a5.
SqueenchyBobo kibitzes: Sorry, I meant 19.c6 would hurt.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Qf7 - +
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: well offramp, this game has turned out A
LOT better than the first...
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bd5
offramp kibitzes: ...Nc4 - e5 looks good!
Jerzy64 kibitzes: not well Sam
GRUDGE05 set *SamSloan's clock to 00:44:45
Jerzy64 kibitzes: where is matt nemmers ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: in the hour of need ?
Kibitzto 513 Right here.
Nemmers kibitzes: Right here.
(kibitzed to 31 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:35:45
HAASpittle kibitzes: I'm hitt'n the freezer for a bowl of ice cream
Kibitzto 513 20.Qa4!
Nemmers kibitzes: 20.Qa4!
(kibitzed to 29 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Qa4?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Re1 f5 ! -+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: oops, mistake three moves back
MatdeInverses kibitzes: c6 first?
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 backs up 1.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd8
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb2
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bd5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: e4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bc4
Kibitzto 513 ??
Nemmers kibitzes: ??
(kibitzed to 28 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: that is a whole different ball game
rwd kibitzes: Oops!
Jerzy64 kibitzes: oops we have problems houston
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nf5
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: really?
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bxf1
Jerzy64 kibitzes: yeah
MatdeInverses kibitzes: ouch doesnt he calculate anything?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: go Sam squeeze him
Kibitzto 513 21.Qh5+!!
Nemmers kibitzes: 21.Qh5+!!
(kibitzed to 29 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: my humblest apologies
Kibitzto 513 You're FIRED, Vince.
Nemmers kibitzes: You're FIRED, Vince.
(kibitzed to 29 people)
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: is it correct now?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: he just busted himself
MatdeInverses kibitzes: not that it wasnt close
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: funny thing was, it all made sense :-)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Sam was obviously winning
Jerzy64 kibitzes: but missed his chance
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qh5+
Kibitzto 513 Where?
Nemmers kibitzes: Where?
(kibitzed to 28 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: obviously winning??
Jerzy64 kibitzes: yeah folks obviously
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Jerzy is our comedy relief. Just laugh, don't
ask questions.
MatdeInverses kibitzes: you'll have to show me
Jerzy64 kibitzes: ayway he still has some chances
MatdeInverses kibitzes: this is lost
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Kf8
Jerzy64 kibitzes: einzige zug
MatdeInverses kibitzes: do you see that g5 hangs later?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: not really
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: What's this, for Christ's sake?
Kibitzto 513 It's an ass-kickin'.
Nemmers kibitzes: It's an ass-kickin'.
(kibitzed to 34 people)
ramon-t whispers: ?
ramon-t whispers: who are these guys
ramon-t whispers: ?
Kibitzto 513 Usenet posters at rec.games.chess.politics
Nemmers kibitzes: Usenet posters at rec.games.chess.politics
(kibitzed to 34 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: if you dont know you dont care
rob-ander kibitzes: whats their rating?
Kibitzto 513 W: 2048, B: 1913
Nemmers kibitzes: W: 2048, B: 1913
(kibitzed to 34 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: 2000/1900
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:27:42
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: why can't we put ratings in the game here?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: everyone keeps asking that
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: Well, I knew that, Sam Sloan is a.... well,
hmz
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bill is an utter moron
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: what's the command?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: wrating and brating?
GRUDGE05 set *SamSloan's clock to 00:39:00
Jerzy64 kibitzes: where such folks are born ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: Moron1- Moron2
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nope, Sam is different
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: where is this game played?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: chicago
Jerzy64 kibitzes: he has his own style folks
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: Sam has the most disgusting complot theories,
hasn't he?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: unique style
Jerzy64 kibitzes: grand dutch ? where is it ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Kibitzto 513 Sam's a friggin' oxygen-thieving jackass.
Nemmers kibitzes: Sam's a friggin' oxygen-thieving jackass.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: www.samsloan.com, it's really weird
Jerzy64 kibitzes: dutchman you envy Sam that`s all
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: I always keep laughing about the lay-out of
that site
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qf7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qxf7+
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kxf7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bxf1
MatdeInverses kibitzes: ???
Jerzy64 kibitzes: still 0-1 for Sam
Kibitzto 513 That wasn't good.
Nemmers kibitzes: That wasn't good.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Nxg7, correct?
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: yeah, I envy him, I would just love to have
such a beautiful web site and such a wonderful playing strengh
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: i told you bill is an utter moron
Kibitzto 513 Why not 22.Nxg7+
Nemmers kibitzes: Why not 22.Nxg7+
(kibitzed to 34 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: yeah what I said
Jerzy64 kibitzes: thats why he is a moron
GRUDGE05 sets White's name to BillBrock-2042.
Kibitzto 513 Vince, are you SURE you got that right?
Nemmers kibitzes: Vince, are you SURE you got that right?
(kibitzed to 33 people)
Kibitzto 513
Nemmers kibitzes:
(kibitzed to 33 people)
HAASpittle kibitzes: Nxg6+ was the move.
Kibitzto 513 You mean, Nxg7+
Nemmers kibitzes: You mean, Nxg7+
(kibitzed to 33 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Nxg7 Haasie
GRUDGE05 sets Black's name to SamSloan 1931.
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: does he still have that aweful MIDI music on his
website?
Kibitzto 513 Of course he does.
Nemmers kibitzes: Of course he does.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
GRUDGE05 sets Black's name to SamSloan-1931.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: if you dont like just turn it off dude
HAASpittle kibitzes: Sam shud play Bf7 for the moment
Jerzy64 kibitzes: listen to ozzy
ramon-t whispers: ozzy
ramon-t whispers: lol
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rhe8
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nice to see you Haasie
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: Bc3 Nb3 I'd love to see that
Jerzy64 kibitzes: thats why you are a patzer dutch
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: why?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: is Bill trying to prove some point? Nxg7+ was
so obvious
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Sam is better folks
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you should accept this
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Kibitzto 513 Wrongo.
Nemmers kibitzes: Wrongo.
(kibitzed to 32 people)
sloan kibitzes: he'll find a creative way to blow it
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bongo
Kibitzto 513 Shlongo.
Nemmers kibitzes: Shlongo.
(kibitzed to 31 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nemmongo
Kibitzto 513 Bizongo
Nemmers kibitzes: Bizongo
(kibitzed to 31 people)
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: both players make a share of mistakes. if
that wasn't true, at least one of them would be a GM then, wouldn't
they be?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nene nemmongo i like the expression
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bc3
Jerzy64 kibitzes: GM Tomic
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: I don't understand White's play, 22.Nxg7+ Kf8
and then capturing on f1 was quite obvious.
MatdeInverses kibitzes: yeah but that was a one mover, Bill plays
better than that
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Over all, I'm impressed that they've kept
it together in G2 this long.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Intenet GM
Jerzy64 kibitzes: internet
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: b6
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehedutch you are a patzer
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: why, please tell me?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you bet on the wrong horse
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: I said I'd love to see Nb3 Bc4, it would be
great fun, but the chances of that would be very unlikely
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: cxb6
Kibitzto 513 Dutch, Jerzy isn't serious. He props Sloan up to get a
rise out of people.
Nemmers kibitzes: Dutch, Jerzy isn't serious. He props Sloan up to get
a rise out of people.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: absolutely winning for Sam unless Vince made another
mistake :-))
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Yeah, his rating is too high to believe the
nonsense he's spouting. He's just trolling.
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: i'd like to see an terrible war with the US as
victim instead of a villain, but the chances of that happening aren't
very big either
MatdeInverses kibitzes: sort of the attention pimp for the attention
whore, Matt?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: dutch are Lassen ?
Kibitzto 513 LOL! Exactly.
Nemmers kibitzes: LOL! Exactly.
(kibitzed to 33 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: dutch who are you ?
Grand-Dutchman kibitzes: I am who I am
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: It looks like I have the position correct
Jerzy64 kibitzes: cb6 -+
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: too bad. that queenside castle was sweet.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: or ab6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: axb6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxg7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kxg7
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe good knight for a bad bishop LOL
MatdeInverses kibitzes: that was surreal
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bill is not only a moron but patzer as well
Kibitzto 513 This CAN'T be right.....
Nemmers kibitzes: This CAN'T be right.....
(kibitzed to 34 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You just said he was losing anyway, jerzy.
autobot(*) whispers: fat lady aint sung yet
Jerzy64 kibitzes: GO SAM GO !!!
MatdeInverses kibitzes: I think Sloan knocked everyone else out and
took over the computer
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Of course we all knew you were lying, but you
did say it.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: f3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nb3
GRUDGE05 set *SamSloan-1931's clock to 00:32:19
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock-2042's clock to 00:20:20
Jerzy64 kibitzes: easy win for Sam
autobot(*) whispers: this looks won for sam though anyone fritzin this
game?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: what for dude ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: cant you play by yourself ?
MikeMurray kibitzes: about even, according to Fritz
MatdeInverses kibitzes: moves 22 and 26 were so odd no one is bothering
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: What Fritz thinks is irrelevant to what's
going to happen in this game.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe Fritz
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: FrancoPrussian is exactly right!
Jerzy64 kibitzes: maybe Juergen the Rat
Jerzy64 kibitzes: has it
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Vince, can you check the position again?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: what for ? Sam is winnig
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Bill should resign immediately if he has any honour
Jerzy64 kibitzes: left
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: LOL.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: What you see is what they got
MatdeInverses kibitzes: same let himself be mated, maybe Bill will do
the same
Kibitzto 513 28.Re1
Nemmers kibitzes: 28.Re1
(kibitzed to 33 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: sam that is
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: "He should resign immediately before Sam blows
it... Er, that is..."
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Re1
Jerzy64 kibitzes: franco prussian another idiotic nick
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: That's it, Bubbi.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: are you nick the boobaki ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I deliberately made a stupid name just so you
wouldn't feel so bad about having to shill for attention, and this is
the thanks I get.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: How can we save log of these kibitzing
conversations?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: just type save *
Jerzy64 kibitzes: and then tranlate into Russian
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nd4
Kibitzto 513 Oooh. Nd2 was better, I think.
Nemmers kibitzes: Oooh. Nd2 was better, I think.
(kibitzed to 32 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nope
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: They're about equally good. Game is about even
either way.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kf2
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Hoping for 29...Nc2? 30.Rc1!
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Jerzy64 kibitzes: why so many germans here ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I want to see how Bill explains this
afterwards. He didn't play Nxg7 when it won and he did play it when it
was no good.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bauer, juergen, bauer etc ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: schiller ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: prussian ?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Is Bauer on here?
rwd kibitzes: I don't think Ng7 was a clear win but it was better than
what he played
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Ne6 still winning
sloan kibitzes: sowieso
rwd kibitzes: I found Nf5 and later Ng7 had to believe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Sloan you are not Sam, only Ken
Jerzy64 kibitzes: :-)
Kibitzto 513 29...Rc2!
Nemmers kibitzes: 29...Rc2!
(kibitzed to 32 people)
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I remember someone with a handle 'SonofSamSloan'
Jerzy64 kibitzes: impossible move matt
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nc2
Kibitzto 513 I meant 29...Nc2!
Nemmers kibitzes: I meant 29...Nc2!
(kibitzed to 32 people)
rwd kibitzes: wow
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Yuck!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rc1
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I can see now why Jerzy was so terrified of
the game continuing.
Kibitzto 513 YES!
Nemmers kibitzes: YES!
(kibitzed to 32 people)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
rwd kibitzes: A clear winner now
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock-2042's clock to 00:15:30
Jerzy64 kibitzes: bill the moron has some chances
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Sam's winning chances just went back to 0.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: as usual you are patzer
Jerzy64 kibitzes: prussian
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nd4
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: LOL
Jerzy64 kibitzes: good decision by Sam
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: C'mon Jerzy, as long as you're prostituting
yourself you can't complain.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You want attention, we're giving it to you.
That means we pay your salary. We're your bosses.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: your idiotic nick makes me lugh
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: did anyone save the chat log from game #1?
I can't seem to save it.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I'm glad.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: what for tyrone ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Assuming you're telling the truth. You haven't
exactly been George Washington in this game, Jerzy.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you are patzer and patzers will be patzers
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: White might be able to win this game, but of
course it all depends on how many blunders each player can come up
with.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: That's just what you tell yourself to justify
lying about Sam's position. It's kind of pointless, isn't it? Even if
you fooled us into thinking Sam was winning when he was losing, that
doesn't help him.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You don't need to fool us, jerzy, you need to
fool Brock.
rwd kibitzes: yes Eric. There have been rather a lot
Jerzy64 kibitzes: who are you prussian another anonymous idiot ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You assume that even an idiot can make you
look foolish?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Interesting admission.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you make me laugh prussian
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb4
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Would you agree that if Sam doesn't win this
dead-won game you claim he had, that that destroys his credibility?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: still winning for Sam
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
MatdeInverses kibitzes: winning is not synonymous with won
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Yes, yes, so you DO admit that if Sam doesn't
win this, his credibility is gone.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: This is hilarious. The simple 31.Bxd4 and Rxc7+
seems to have eluded White.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: your credibilty is null anonmouse
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I'll take that as a yes, then.
rwd kibitzes: yep
rwd kibitzes: White still has some pressure though
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You seem awfully simple-minded for someone
with a high rating, jerzy.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: schiller is right bill is hilarious :-)
rwd kibitzes: Rd7 Bh3
MatdeInverses kibitzes: how can so much be missed?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Bxd4 couldn't have been missed, it must have
been rejected.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: But again the question is why?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: prussian you could learn sth from wiser than you
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: this game will simply be determined by who
makes the last blunder. but that is nothing new.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: In some ways, these games are as instructive as
GM games, because here everyone can spot and understand the mistakes
Jerzy64 kibitzes: but you obviously dont want
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Except Jerzy. He doesn't see it even after
it's past.
rwd kibitzes: its always easier to kibitz than to find moves with the
clock ticking
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Jerzy64 kibitzes: patzers will be patzers
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd7
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: A comedy of errors, a tale told by an idiot,
thrills and spills with even the most obvious plans overlooked :-)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I know, but Bxd4 and Nxg7 are moves you'd
expect to be found in a 1 0 game.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Interesting admission again, jerzy.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nice trap by Sam
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bh3
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: But aren't they supposed to be playing for a
cash prize?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Brock isn't. He gives it all away if he wins.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: yes. $1000. and Sloan's ticket and hotel
was paid for by the sponsors.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: And Sam isn't putting up his own stakes. That
may explain some of his play.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: He still is playing for money. Just
donating any winnings to his charities.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: No, Sam is trying as hard as he can. He is
betting is "reputation" on this match, and he's running for USCF board.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: He doesn't stand to win money, but he does
stand to lose it. That ought to provide some incentive.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rf7
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Sam has no reputation. In fact, from his point
of view, it's probably better to lose.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: oh those germans
MikeMurray kibitzes: Bill, by winning, prevents Sam from getting the
pot. That's incentive for him.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: But what quality of game is this, do you think:
A-player? B-player? C-player?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: A B C men what are you talking about ?
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: If Sam wins, big deal. He won a chess match.
But if he loses, he can make up some rinky-dink excuse and have the
entire newsgroup pay attention to him telling him how stupid his excuse
is.
Kibitzto 513 This is true.
Nemmers kibitzes: This is true.
(kibitzed to 31 people)
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: USCF (1800, 1600, 1400). If I didn't know the
players, I'd put this as a game between two 1600-1700 players.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: He gets more attention from losing than from
winning, and since we all know what's REALLY important to Sam, that
might keep him from putting his all into these games.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: But I think Sam still would prefer the
money. Sam is not donating to charity!
Kibitzto 513 I'm still trying to figure out why Bill played 22.Qxf7+
and 26.Nxg7
Nemmers kibitzes: I'm still trying to figure out why Bill played
22.Qxf7+ and 26.Nxg7
(kibitzed to 31 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: That's true. Money vs. attention. I don't know
what he wants more, but he wins either way, doesn't he?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: charity ? guys dont you pay your taxes ??
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rc4
Jerzy64 kibitzes: well Nxb5 -+
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxb5
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nice Sam
Jerzy64 kibitzes: easy win
rwd kibitzes: Well that was just ridiculous
MikeMurray kibitzes: Time pressure approaches
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: There may still be blunders to come.
Inconnux kibitzes: i just arrived how many games have they played???
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: 1 game. First round Brock 1 - Sloan 0
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Bill is a pathetic moron and as I can see he deserves
this title
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: this 2nd round, well it seems Sloan is
winning.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Jerzy's almost telling the truth for once.
He's had to play pretty bad not to win this game.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Of course the goat in Sam could still rise to
the surface, but for the moment, he's ahead.
Inconnux kibitzes: yeah i would say sam is winning this one
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: time crunch will kill Brock
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: a4
Jerzy64 kibitzes: right inconnux
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nd6
Quoyle kibitzes: Is this sudden death
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bxd6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: cxd6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rc6
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Ra8
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock-2042's clock to 00:04:59
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb8
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rxd6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ra7
Kibitzto 513 Bd7
Nemmers kibitzes: Bd7
(kibitzed to 34 people)
rwd kibitzes: Bf5
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Now, if White doesn't find Bf5, the fix really
is in.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd7+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Kibitzto 513 Going for a draw?
Nemmers kibitzes: Going for a draw?
(kibitzed to 36 people)
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rxd7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bxd7
Jerzy64 kibitzes: man man man
Jerzy64 kibitzes: real moron
Inconnux kibitzes: ????
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Bill
Jerzy64 kibitzes: kill bill
Jerzy64 kibitzes: kill bill 3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd8
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb5
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Man, even Jerzy could do better than this.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rd2+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: prussian russian
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You disagree?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: he can draw even without that pawn
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: You disagree?
MatdeInverses kibitzes: he can draw even without that pawn
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Maybe, but with under 4 minutes, you have to
think that Black ought to win.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke3
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rxh2
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: nah it's just not working in Jin
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: it works with FICS just fine
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: g4
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I tried
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: mistell
Kibitzto 513 42...h5!
Nemmers kibitzes: 42...h5!
(kibitzed to 36 people)
MatdeInverses kibitzes: h5 speeds the draw
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: nah it's not working in Jin
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: If Sam plays h5, I wonder if Bill will see
gxh5?
Kibitzto 513 You think?
Nemmers kibitzes: You think?
(kibitzed to 36 people)
MikeMurray kibitzes: Lunch is Swiss cheese
Jerzy64 kibitzes: nope matt it`s better to centrlize your king
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: ugg i just changed windows and it's still kibitzing
to this one
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kf7
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Kf7-e5 -+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: good work Sam
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Less bad work than Bill, Sam!
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: This was probably sloan's strategy all
along. throw game1 and get Brock overconfident.
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Throw game 1, AND give Bill a winning position
in Game 2, hoping he'll blow it? I don't think even Sam would do that.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kd4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kd3
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: OK. it was a joke :-)
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke3
Jerzy64 kibitzes: thats right tyrone fischer also blew two first games
with spassky
Jerzy64 kibitzes: Ra2-a3 and Kf4
Jerzy64 kibitzes: check and mate
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehe
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehe
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb2
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bd3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke2
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Now it's Brock's turn to play on too long.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: AFter 47...Kf4 White should resign
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kd4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bb5
Jerzy64 kibitzes: yeah he should resign much eariler but what one can
expect from a morn ?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: moron
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb2+
Quoyle kibitzes: Rb2+ and Ke3 is also good enough here
rwd kibitzes: Nope he missed it
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kd1
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: I guess Sam couldn't calculate the endgame
after RxB.
sloan kibitzes: it's a grudge match - slow torture is better than a
quick kill
rwd kibitzes: lol
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: jerzy. you probably missed it, but sloan
played all the way to a checkmate in G1 without resigning...
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ke3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bc6
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Yes, but it doesn't make sense why these guys
have both let themselves be slow tortured.
Quoyle kibitzes: Rf2
sloan kibitzes: resigning involves shaking hands
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rb4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Kc2
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Rc4+
Jerzy64 kibitzes: lol
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hehehehe
Game 513: Black wins
Black wins
Jerzy64 kibitzes: BRAVO SAM !!!!
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: C'mon Bill, even Sam can win thi.s
Jerzy64 kibitzes: GO SAM GO !!!!


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Old June 26th 05, 10:58 PM
Tyrone Slothrop
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Jerzy wrote:
Matt, you cut out my text about Fischer ! I can smell a censorship here.


Well, here is my log of Game2 for comparison:

Kibitzto 513 worth watching just to see what sort of

opening sam sloan will uncork.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: worth watching just to see

what sort of opening sam sloan will uncork.
(kibitzed to 18 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: I'm betting Damiano or

Schliemann. Maybe Latvian Gambit
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: d4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: d5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: c4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: e5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: dxe5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: d4
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: a3
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: OK, didn't work against e4, but

he still played something stupid.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Larry stepped out so I will be a

little slow
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nc6
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nf3
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: larry is back
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Poor Sam, even his openings are

a desperate plea for attention.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nge7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: g3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ng6
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Sam commented between rounds that he

did not want a draw in the first game because it would

still take either player 2 more games to win the match.
zoey kibitzes: but he wouldn't be behind
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: He was going for victory in 2

games so he could have the rest of the day off. Seems

silly now.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bg5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qd7
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: That's what I was hoping for so I

could get hom earlier.
Kibitzto 513 the way this match is going, you will

probably be home by 7pm
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: the way this match is going,

you will probably be home by 7pm
(kibitzed to 19 people)
HAASpittle kibitzes: Is this a King's Indian or a

Petroff?
Kibitzto 513 Albin countergambit
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Albin countergambit
(kibitzed to 20 people)
HAASpittle kibitzes: Alvin's CounterGambit, eh?
HAASpittle kibitzes: I'd play h4 here
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I'm guessing you aren't a d4 player
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Between rounds Larry and Sam chatted

amiably. When Larry went out Bill and Sam finally

talked a bit.
HAASpittle kibitzes: I love d4
Kibitzto 513 shocking
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: shocking
(kibitzed to 23 people)
Nemmers kibitzes: Damn. I was really hoping Bill would

play 1.e4 so he could show Sloan how unsound the Damiano

is.
HAASpittle kibitzes: dd44
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bg2
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Ngxe5
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I'm guessing you don't look at

openings too much then
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: maybe Ray Gordon can help you with

that
HAASpittle kibitzes: I know the Queen's Goiter like the

back of my hand.
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: On the way over here, Sam confided

that he expected Bill to be prepped for the Damiano.
Kibitzto 513 as he wasn't prep'ed for the Grob?!?!
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: as he wasn't prep'ed for the

Grob?!?!
(kibitzed to 22 people)
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nbd2
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Surprised Sam didn't play the

Garbage Gambit; 1. d4 e5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxf3+
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxf3
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: f6
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Bill is nodding his head at Sam's last

move. First reaction I have seen from him.
HAASpittle kibitzes: the B shud maybe go back to c1
HAASpittle kibitzes: then to b2, huh?
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bf4
HAASpittle kibitzes: loses a tempo
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: g5
HAASpittle kibitzes: see
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Another coffeehouse attack

coming up.
HAASpittle kibitzes: black flings his kside with gain in

tempo
GRUDGE05 set *SamSloan's clock to 01:07:54
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bc1
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:59:54
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: So what crap will Sam have on

tap for G3? 1. a3?
Kibitzto 513 Larry Parr suggested 1h4
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Larry Parr suggested 1h4
(kibitzed to 23 people)
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Bg7
autobot(*) whispers: Brock won g #1? and this is g2?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: correct
Kibitzto 513 yes
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: yes
(kibitzed to 23 people)
autobot(*) whispers: thanks
autobot(*) whispers: ah he mated him up :-)
autobot(*) whispers: thanks to the sponsors for making

this possible
HAASpittle kibitzes: Is Larry Parr watching this?
autobot(*) whispers: hahaha
autobot(*) whispers: Parr is busy with breaking news:

Leko may have been dead all along after all.
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: O-O
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qd6
Kibitzto 513 oops
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: oops
(kibitzed to 22 people)
Kibitzto 513 this is going to be a short match
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: this is going to be a short

match
(kibitzed to 22 people)
HAASpittle kibitzes: b4 has some risks at this point
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: 14.b4 looks quite strong.
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: holy crap. It's the best chess writer

in the world!
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Goran Tomic is here?
HAASpittle kibitzes: who?
Nemmers kibitzes: 14.e3 (+0.63)
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: Eric Schiller!
MatdeInverses kibitzes: Haasie, were you *ever* anything

but clueless?
HAASpittle kibitzes: No, I'm pretty clued in.
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I have a great idea
MatdeInverses kibitzes: to which alternate reality? The

Mensaverse?
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: He and Ray Gordon should do a book

together!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: b4
dogzdad kibitzes: who g513
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Be6
Kibitzto 513 Ray and who? Sam?
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Ray and who? Sam?
(kibitzed to 25 people)
Nemmers kibitzes: 15.c5!
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: 15.c5 and 16.b5, queenside

massacre coming
rwd kibitzes: yup
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: c5
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Qd7
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: b5
roastednuts kibitzes: what the heck is this?
GRUDGE05 set *BillBrock's clock to 00:44:43
Nemmers kibitzes: It's an ass-kickin'.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Sam's bogus opening is being

taken to the cleaners.
roastednuts kibitzes: yeah but why are they playing
Kibitzto 513 for $1000
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: for $1000
(kibitzed to 28 people)
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: Cause Sloan doesn't know he's a

fish.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Don't blame the ALbin, it is the

ridiculous ...f6, ...g5 that has caused all the trouble.
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: This is *not* Morozevich's Albin!
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Na5
Nemmers kibitzes: http://tinyurl.com/895r3
FrancoPrussian kibitzes: No, we weren't in any danger of

mistaking Sam for Morozovich
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: I've actually heard that your Big Book

of Busts is a good book, JackStraw
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: isn't there an updated version of it

though?
HAASpittle kibitzes: black will get some counterplay here
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: what's the newer one called?
zoey kibitzes: The Bigger Book of Busts?
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Not an uodated version, but a

reprint is available from Hardinge-Simpole as "Handbook

of Tricky Opening Strategies"
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: most people say your books are really

bad usually so I tend to stay away from them
BlkSabb2 kibitzes: but I read a good review of that one

and it sounded interesting
rwd kibitzes: Qd6 was a real lemon
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: But John Watson and I have a

newer book, just on 1.e4 e5 tricks, called "Survive and

Beat Annoying Chess Openings". We are working on the 1.d4

d5 volume and hope to cover all the rest in a third

volume next year.
Jerzy64 kibitzes: hi all
HAASpittle kibitzes: why was it a lemon?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: what`s the score ?
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: Brock 1 Sloan 0
Jerzy64 kibitzes: i can see Sam is better now
Jerzy64 kibitzes: go Sam, go ! ;-)
Kibitzto 513 and sam is about to be cracked open...
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: and sam is about to be

cracked open...
(kibitzed to 30 people)
offramp kibitzes: Sloan is better; where shold he castle
Game 513: GRUDGE05 moves: Nxd4
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Reviews are mostly written by

wannabees and never-weres, who think it is trivially easy

to write a book. Look at all books yourself, you can

figure out whether it will be useful for you.
MikeMurray kibitzes: better? better bring him a bucket
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: In the Albin, most of Black's

compensation is in the form of a strong pawn at d4.

R.I.P.
offramp kibitzes: that is a panicky move... Karpov would

have waited
roastednuts kibitzes: how many games in this match
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: And if you buy a book at a

bookstore, you can always take it back :-)
Jerzy64 kibitzes: how many games they play ?
Kibitzto 513 that is based on the theory, and we already

agreed before you came on JackStraw, that Sam doesn't pay

attention to the theory.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: that is based on the theory,

and we already agreed before you came on JackStraw, that

Sam doesn't pay attention to the theory.
(kibitzed to 29 people)
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Sam has his own theories, lots of

them
Kibitzto 513 only one so far. this is the second. one

or two more to go after this.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: only one so far. this is

the second. one or two more to go after this.
(kibitzed to 29 people)
GRUDGE05 kibitzes: 4 game match--brock giving draw odds
Jerzy64 kibitzes: it`s too short
roastednuts kibitzes: JackStraw, I thought your Complete

Defense to Queen Pawn openings was a good book
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Give him points for consistency,

he honestly believes the g-pawn should move forward as

soon as possible, a full two squares
Jerzy64 kibitzes: they should play at least 6 games
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Thanks, roasted
dogzdad kibitzes: thanks for helping finance the 6 game

match jerzy
offramp kibitzes: Whaddya reckon, bh3?
Kibitzto 513 Yep. And he demonstrated that in G1 by

being soundly thrashed.
tijuanaslothrop(C) kibitzes: Yep. And he demonstrated

that in G1 by being soundly thrashed.
(kibitzed to 29 people)
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: And Sam's games are often high in

entertainment value
roastednuts kibitzes: doesn't Sam play 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6

sometimes?
Jerzy64 kibitzes: finance ? LOL
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: Yes, roasted, he is convinced it

is sound
Jerzy64 kibitzes: you folks take too seriously such

matters
JackStraw(FM) kibitzes: There is a collection of some of

his games at http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?

pid=10021
roastednuts kibitzes: sound? lol
offramp kibitzes: this is a cool position; it is

unbalanc