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Old July 4th 05, 05:34 PM
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I was checking your USCF membership, and happened to see your last USCF
OTB rating of 2044.

Someone who was "nearly an IM 25 years ago" could certainly drop a game
to an A player or even a B player--I've seen players as strong as Greg
De Fotis and Paul Schmidt do it when coming back to tournament play
after long layoffs. But to do both, in consecutive rounds?

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Old July 4th 05, 06:31 PM
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I was checking your USCF membership, and happened to see your last USCF
OTB rating of 2044.


thats true, i played sick and went from provisional 2199 to 2044 in two
games, what does it matter?

i can still scalp ims, and also lose to 1750s!

this thread is not about obsessive stalking by endlessly petty diverting
distorting nitwits, its about the Damiano position, can you solve it, or
just put out the next move offered by your computer? ROFL

Someone who was "nearly an IM 25 years ago" could certainly drop a game
to an A player or even a B player--I've seen players as strong as Greg
De Fotis and Paul Schmidt do it when coming back to tournament play
after long layoffs. But to do both, in consecutive rounds?


maybe i am no no better than 950 these days? want to play for money Mr.
Brock?

Phil Innes

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Old July 4th 05, 06:42 PM
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I don't play for money, and I'm not questioning your integrity.

Keep in mind that I just lost two games to an A player. :-) It ain't a
sin.

But these are unusual results for someone who was once close to IM
strength. Perhaps you were ill in this tournament, too?

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Old July 4th 05, 07:06 PM
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Dear Bill,

you are becoming rather insistent on personal matters at the expense of the
ostensible subject - this is often interesting to only one party. If you
don't want to play a money game, and you are quite strong, no? Then its all
wordy speculation isn't it? And chess is about performance.

Defeat the Damiano position after hrf8, or just talk. That's a second
challenge.

Phil


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I don't play for money, and I'm not questioning your integrity.

Keep in mind that I just lost two games to an A player. :-) It ain't a
sin.

But these are unusual results for someone who was once close to IM
strength. Perhaps you were ill in this tournament, too?

http://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain....99520-12529296



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Old July 4th 05, 07:29 PM
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I would never get to this position in the Damiano: 3.d4 or 3.Bc4.
3.Nxe5 allows 3...Qe7. I ran through my MSA tournament results, and
I'm fairly sure I lost more games to players under 1800 than you did.
Mitigating factor: I played in 91 tournaments.

May I gently suggest that you are a person of integrity, and that
Taylor Kingston is a person of integrity.

;-)

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Old July 4th 05, 08:11 PM
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I would never get to this position in the Damiano: 3.d4 or 3.Bc4.
3.Nxe5 allows 3...Qe7. I ran through my MSA tournament results, and
I'm fairly sure I lost more games to players under 1800 than you did.
Mitigating factor: I played in 91 tournaments.


that's a lot! I remember as a kid being so nervous I would knock over half
the pieces with the first trembling move. We didn't play much tournament
chess in Cornwall, but a weekly club to club game of about 90/game, and then
weekend inter-county games slightly longer after a 2 hour car-ride in
pipe-smoke, the driver playing all others blindfold, so to speak. And I
remember Michael Adams as a 'squeeker' eg. of no particular account then,
and who could not be swindled but could be out-manoevred, in fact I am not
sure he even played board one for his club

what do you personally remember as the most enjoyable aspect of playing in
all those tournaments? - that is, as a consistent theme?

this Damiano game is a weird position anyway - when I saw f4 instead of h4 I
knew we were on strange ground, and Sam played as if responding to h4,
however, I often find myself in the wilderness. I once played a guy who is
old enough to have beaten Frank Marshall in a full length game, and rather
than the daunting task of playing against 50+ years of opening theory,
played an invention, The Great Crab, featuring b4 AND g4! It was a very
strange game, and the only one I ever played against a master where, after
40 moves, neither King had moved, and in the final position they still
hadn't moved [ROFL!] he was a very cool older gentleman and didn't buy any
of my crappy traps, so we slogged this thing out as an open game, open on
all fronts

Your turn for old-fart weird chess position anecdote, said Innes, who is 52
this week

May I gently suggest that you are a person of integrity, and that
Taylor Kingston is a person of integrity.


We are both import-Vermonters, except he is a flatlander, and I incidentally
just wrote to Taylor, to his [!]

And it is my surprise that you too are a gentleman, but said like that is
demeaning, which was not my intent, only the extent of my poor wits this
afternoon.

;-)


Now, unless we can think of other things on which to disagree we are forced
to agree on... already a bad scene the character of Lawrence H. Parr, but
as the children say, let's not go there.

Phil



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Old July 4th 05, 08:21 PM
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Chess One wrote:
wrote in message
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I would never get to this position in the Damiano: 3.d4 or 3.Bc4.
3.Nxe5 allows 3...Qe7. I ran through my MSA tournament results, and
I'm fairly sure I lost more games to players under 1800 than you did.
Mitigating factor: I played in 91 tournaments.


that's a lot! I remember as a kid being so nervous I would knock over half
the pieces with the first trembling move. We didn't play much tournament
chess in Cornwall, but a weekly club to club game of about 90/game, and then
weekend inter-county games slightly longer after a 2 hour car-ride in
pipe-smoke, the driver playing all others blindfold, so to speak. And I
remember Michael Adams as a 'squeeker' eg. of no particular account then,
and who could not be swindled but could be out-manoevred, in fact I am not
sure he even played board one for his club

what do you personally remember as the most enjoyable aspect of playing in
all those tournaments? - that is, as a consistent theme?

this Damiano game is a weird position anyway - when I saw f4 instead of h4 I
knew we were on strange ground, and Sam played as if responding to h4,
however, I often find myself in the wilderness. I once played a guy who is
old enough to have beaten Frank Marshall in a full length game,


How many decades after he beat Frank Marshall did you play him?

and rather
than the daunting task of playing against 50+ years of opening theory,
played an invention, The Great Crab, featuring b4 AND g4! It was a very
strange game, and the only one I ever played against a master where, after
40 moves, neither King had moved, and in the final position they still
hadn't moved [ROFL!] he was a very cool older gentleman and didn't buy any
of my crappy traps, so we slogged this thing out as an open game, open on
all fronts

Your turn for old-fart weird chess position anecdote, said Innes, who is 52
this week

May I gently suggest that you are a person of integrity, and that
Taylor Kingston is a person of integrity.


We are both import-Vermonters, except he is a flatlander, and I incidentally
just wrote to Taylor, to his [!]

And it is my surprise that you too are a gentleman, but said like that is
demeaning, which was not my intent, only the extent of my poor wits this
afternoon.

;-)


Now, unless we can think of other things on which to disagree we are forced
to agree on... already a bad scene the character of Lawrence H. Parr, but
as the children say, let's not go there.

Phil


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Old July 4th 05, 08:28 PM
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wrote:
I don't play for money, and I'm not questioning your integrity.

Keep in mind that I just lost two games to an A player. :-) It ain't a
sin.

But these are unusual results for someone who was once close to IM
strength. Perhaps you were ill in this tournament, too?

http://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain....99520-12529296

It looks like he became ill shortly after losing. Of course, he now
claims to be able to give two Rooks as odds to B players.

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Old July 4th 05, 08:30 PM
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Chess One wrote:
Dear Bill,

you are becoming rather insistent on personal matters at the expense of the
ostensible subject - this is often interesting to only one party. If you
don't want to play a money game, and you are quite strong, no? Then its all
wordy speculation isn't it? And chess is about performance.

Defeat the Damiano position after hrf8, or just talk. That's a second
challenge.

Phil


How about presenting analysis that supports your first claim, that it
is a "won end-game for Black"?

 




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