Let's all thank the Lord that this time the bombs didn't go off. I
hope the perpetraters are caught and punished. But as I said in
another thread: as long as Britain makes war on Muslims, it can expect
retaliation from Muslims. The same goes for the US. If the US and
Britain leave Iraq, the incidence of terrorism will subside. That's
what history tells us. If the occupying force leaves, the terrorism
stops. Oh there will still be Timothy McVeighs from time to time, but
Muslim initiated terrorism will cease when the US and Britain get the
hell out of Iraq. It will be forced eventually. The US murdered two
million Vietnamese before it was forced out. Will the US approach that
number in Iraq before it's forced out?
Mike

On 22 Jul 2005 11:29:35 -0700, wrote:

Let's all thank the Lord that this time the bombs didn't go off. I
hope the perpetraters are caught and punished. But as I said in
another thread: as long as Britain makes war on Muslims,

I thought they were fighting Iraq.

it can expect
retaliation from Muslims. The same goes for the US. If the US and
Britain leave Iraq, the incidence of terrorism will subside. That's
what history tells us. If the occupying force leaves, the terrorism
stops. Oh there will still be Timothy McVeighs from time to time, but
Muslim initiated terrorism will cease when the US and Britain get the
hell out of Iraq.

That's not what the radical Islamic web sites say. They want to
restore the caliphate to its maximum boundaries, for starters. That
means most of Spain, Portugal, Bulgaria, etc.

But ultimately, they want the whole world.

Mike,
Bush and the White Christain Party (Republicans) want the whole world,
too.
Mike

On 22 Jul 2005 14:42:18 -0700, wrote:

Mike,
Bush and the White Christain Party (Republicans) want the whole world,
too.
Mike

There's a big difference between advocacy of world-wide political
systems (representative democracy, communism), world wide economic
systems (capitalism, socialism) and a world-wide religion, whether
through Christian missionaries or Islamic jihadists. Immortal souls
and the known will of God have value beyond compromise and negotiation
-- give me a little hypocrisy any day.

I agree that the shrub's supporters on the religious right are getting
pretty similar to the jihadists -- read some of the "fatwas" on the
anti-abortion websites, for examples.

Mike,
I got an e-mail from you. How do you do that?

It wasn't too long ago that a US Army general, in full uniform,
announced from a pulpit that the Christain God was bigger than the
Islamic God. After expressing shock and dismay, Bush quietly promoted
him. The whole evangelical movement is based on spreading the gospel
to the four corners of the world. I have little sympathy for
extremists of any stripe, especially religious extremists.

Re abortion I'm pro-choice. I consider a woman's right to privacy more
important than the life of a fetus.

Mike

wrote:
Re abortion I'm pro-choice. I consider a woman's right to privacy more
important than the life of a fetus.

Mike

!!

Mike, even in the OFF CHANCE you're not at crazy as you sound --
witness the attempted deflection of blame for the bombings *from* the
terrorists in the original post -- you are in DIRE need of some lessons
in choosing your words and how to express yourself.

MN

Matt,
Oh, I'm just as crazy as I sound. I don't follow how anything was
deflected. The subject was changed. I'll return to the bombings if
you wish. The bombings probably would not have occurred had there been
no war in Iraq. So while the individual, human, innocent victims
certainly did not "have it coming" the country of Britain did. Maybe
only crazy people like me can discern the distinction.
Mike

Is Britain making war on Muslims, or on Muslim countries? Does making war on
Muslim countries make someone anti-muslim, and worthy of retaliation from
*any* muslim?

Christianity, for all its faults, got over this nonsense around 1900 years
ago. Throughout their history, Christians persecuted Jews, muslims, and
other assorted infidels, but they killed tens of millions of their
coreligionists too.

I thought you had a shred of intelligence but I see that I was wrong. I'm
sorry I sort of defended you against Matt's post. Now I see where you're
coming from.

wrote in message
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Let's all thank the Lord that this time the bombs didn't go off. I
hope the perpetraters are caught and punished. But as I said in
another thread: as long as Britain makes war on Muslims, it can expect
retaliation from Muslims. The same goes for the US. If the US and
Britain leave Iraq, the incidence of terrorism will subside. That's
what history tells us. If the occupying force leaves, the terrorism
stops. Oh there will still be Timothy McVeighs from time to time, but
Muslim initiated terrorism will cease when the US and Britain get the
hell out of Iraq. It will be forced eventually. The US murdered two
million Vietnamese before it was forced out. Will the US approach that
number in Iraq before it's forced out?
Mike

Does Bush (for all his faults) want to institute an empire where women are
forced to wear veils, where alcohol is illegal, where wives are their
husbands' property, where the penalty for practicing any but the official
religion is death, where "infidels" are subject to the death penalty, where
there is no freedom of speech, press, or assembly, where the rights we enjoy
under the first 10 amendments to our Constitution do not exist?

It's funny how ****-head political philosophies like yours crop up every now
and then. Two brothers I knew in college used to preach about how wonderful
Cuba was. Their name was Flaherty (3/4 cuban, 1/4 Irish). One day I asked
them, if Cuba was such a wonderful place, why the **** they didn't move
there. They tried to beat me up.

To say the US and Britain have a hard-on for muslims is about the stupidest
thing I've seen posted in this newsgroup.



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Mike,
Bush and the White Christain Party (Republicans) want the whole world,
too.
Mike

"Angelo DePalma" writes:
Does Bush (for all his faults) want to institute an empire where women are
forced to wear veils, where alcohol is illegal, where wives are their
husbands' property, where the penalty for practicing any but the official
religion is death, where "infidels" are subject to the death penalty, where
there is no freedom of speech, press, or assembly, where the rights we enjoy
under the first 10 amendments to our Constitution do not exist?

Certainly not the alcohol part.