Jason. wrote:
Randy Bauer was utterly shameless -- truly a low flying bird.

"Randy Bauer" spewed forth:

Absolute bull dung. I had NO involvement or knowledge of these presumed
talks.


Bauer, you're a worse liar than the Baron von Munchausen! You have been
caught red-handed lying in the past, and you expect anyone to believe you
now?


And I'll take a polygraph on that and make the wager of your choice on the
result.


Your wagering hasn't gone too well these days has it Bauer. How much did you
lose on the Gredge match? Also, I understand that chronic liars like you
find techniques to beat a polygraph.

Regards,

Jason (check my headers) Repa

Is this guy still talking?

"This letter has me wondering again...why did we move down there in the
first place?" (Angelo)
==========
So the staff can have real BBQ for lunch.

Old Haasie

"...I keep hearing ads about the steel buildings that are quick to
erect and cost effective. Apparently the new gen of steel buildings
can have the look and feel of traditional office space at a meaningful
reduction in cost and long term upkeep. Is this just advertising BS?
Does anyone have personal experience with this type of construction
used as office space?.." (Fifiela)
==========
Some months ago I suggest Chess HQ look into building a Butler
building. Google up Butler Building and see sample photos of their
buildings ... which occupy industrial parks all over the country.

Old Haasie

Bruce Leverett wrote:
The new Board has not yet even taken office, but I can already see that
it will be business as usual. When one Board member wants to discuss
something with another Board member, his first step is to get his own
POV posted to some newsgroup or listserv. This is, apparently, the
cool way to score points. Beats the hell out of persuasion, doesn't
it?


Why do you assume the open letter was the first communication with
Beatriz regarding this subject? There was a lengthy email exchange
involving her and many others, and her position was unchanged.

Bill Goichberg

As a reader of RGCP, naturally I am curious about what goes into
decisions like build vs. buy. So I read the "open letter". But I
would have to say that in discussing serious business with the leaders
of chess clubs and other organizations, I myself do not normally
proceed by means of "open letters". It seems like exhibitionism, and
as such, it would discourage people from taking me seriously.

Bruce Leverett

wrote:
AN OPEN LETTER TO BEATRIZ MARINELLO
July 26, 2005
Dear Beatriz:

With slightly over two weeks remaining before the Delegates meet in
Phoenix and the new Executive Board takes office, you have declared
your intention to sign a contract with a builder to construct USCF's
new headquarters in Crossville, and to arrange a mortgage to fund this
construction cost.

The estimated cost of this construction is about $550,000. The real
cost is likely to be more, as such projects frequently run over budget.
There will also be interest charges.

The five signers of this letter will be on the new Executive Board that
takes office August 14, a majority of that seven person Board. None of
us supports moving USCF out of Crossville, but all are concerned that
the Federation is about to commit to spending a great deal of money
without having carefully considered alternatives. Randy Bauer, a
current Board member who you supported for re-election, has expressed
the same concern and suggested that you not sign the construction
contract.

There appear to be appropriately sized office buildings in Crossville
advertised for sale at prices well below what it will cost to construct
this building. Especially if we are able to obtain compensation for
returning or selling the land we currently own, it is possible that
USCF might save a great deal of money by purchasing in Crossville
rather than building. While this is not certain, we do not feel it is
prudent to eliminate this possibility by the immediate signing of a
contract, nor do we understand why such signing is so urgent that it
justifies shutting the Delegates and the new Board out of the process
only about two weeks before the meetings.

Too often in the past, USCF has signed contracts without adequate
consideration and it has cost us money. Maybe the arrangements
currently negotiated are desirable for USCF and maybe not, but analysis
of our options before taking a fateful step is surely appropriate at
this time.

Joel Channing
Bill Goichberg
Don Schultz
Greg Shahade
Robert Tanner

Please remove rgcm from the crossposting if you respond, thanks for your
cooperation!


"Gambit" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jason. wrote:
Randy Bauer was utterly shameless -- truly a low flying bird.

"Randy Bauer" spewed forth:

Absolute bull dung. I had NO involvement or knowledge of these
presumed
talks.


Bauer, you're a worse liar than the Baron von Munchausen! You have been
caught red-handed lying in the past, and you expect anyone to believe you
now?


And I'll take a polygraph on that and make the wager of your choice on
the
result.


Your wagering hasn't gone too well these days has it Bauer. How much did
you
lose on the Gredge match? Also, I understand that chronic liars like you
find techniques to beat a polygraph.

Regards,

Jason (check my headers) Repa

Is this guy still talking?

PeteCasso wrote:
Please remove rgcm from the crossposting if you respond, thanks for your
cooperation!

Get a life, net-nanny.

"Angelo DePalma" wrote in message
...
This letter has me wondering again...why did we move down there in the
first
place?


STUPIDITY

RANDY KNEW NUTHIN'

There still are good arguments for the move, and the new Board members aren't talking about leaving Crossville. We have lower costs in a variety of areas, have been able to change our staff structure to reduce costs and make it more efficient, etc. Randy Bauer

Randy Bauer offers, as I also predicted he and the others would,
a defense of moving to Cross-to-Bear even if there is no free land or
no cheap new, wonderful building.

They cannot state the obvious: they gave up over 11,000 square
feet in New Windsor with an experienced staff and land fer nuthin' in
the middle of chess nowhere.

I reported last March that a new building in Cross-to-Bear was
projected to cost at least $650,000 and that this building would be
small, less than 5,000 square feet, compared with the more than 11,000
square feet in New Windsor. A comparable building to the New Windsor
facility in "low-cost" Tennessee would cost about one million. Sam
Sloan's estimate of a cost overrun running to about a half million was
almost exactly right on.

I was called a liar and dirt farmer. Then the Board majority let
the other shoe drop: they confirmed the $650,000 estimate (Randy Bauer
knew nuthin' about that either, of course!) and said that it would save
an absurd $50,000 by not paving a steep area in the back meant for
deliveries! Key-reist, what a face-saving lie that was meant to be!
Yet we were told that a major reason for selling the HQ in New Windsor
was lack of adequate parking!

I told you about the crooked architect's contract for $60,000,
which Randy Bauer and the other honest guys did not want you to know
about.

I let you know about wetlands and radon issues as well as the
bedrock right at the surface. No one will yet answer whether Harry
Sabine was passing on contracts for famished Phil Elmore, the local
Cross-to-Bear architect and $60,000 man.

Then I reported weeks ago that talks were going on about
returning the land and trying to get some form of compensation because
building was becoming an impracticable solution. I was called a liar
again, and once again, honest Randy Bauer said he knew nuthin' of such
talks.

YET: there was a search going on for my sources even as these
guys were denying that what I reported was true.

Well, the gang of four soon will be gone. Randy Bauer will try to
hang around, no doubt, but I think his credibility is far from what it
was. And rightly so.

THE NEW OFFICIAL LINE

The land talks will only be confirmed, I am told, AFTER the elections.
The official line will be that the Federation did not need a new
building in any event. Baloney. Come on, Larry -- put up or shut up.
Randy Bauer, May 31, 2005, in response to my report on "Secret Talks to
Return Land."

I hope to be able to tell you about what they are planning by way
of one of those older buildings in downtown Crossville. Right now,
that information has yet to come my way.

I told you the price of the small new building; I've told you
about the crooked architect's contract; I've told you about the plans
to give back the land for compensation of some kind; and yes, they were
looking for my source or sources while calling me a liar and dirt
farmer.

Finally, I told you that the official line would be that after
giving back the wonderful free land, it was still a grand and
wonderful thing to leave the center of chess for a chess nowhere. That
is now Randy Bauer's line, and it will be the official line.

We gave up over 11,000 square feet in New Windsor; we have no
capability any longer to sell products; the staff has been dumbed down
and lacks earlier capabilities; Tennessee is "low-cost," though it
costs double the price to have a building the same size as the one we
sold in New York; and all is the for the best in the best of all
possible worlds.

Oh, yes, I am still a liar, dirt farmer, and divisive -- though
I was right from the start. Those who hid the architect's contract from
you; hid until the last possible moment the real cost of a small, new
building in Cross-to-Bear and denied the unsuitability of the land --
well those worthies are honest Johns.

And so it goes.

It's obvious that Bauer was the lone voice of reason on the board w/ respect
to the Crossville move. He may not have voted in accordance to the Precepts
of Parr 100% of the time during his tenure, but you can't pin this XXvile
blunder on him. Randy is a decent guy who has a lot to offer US Chess.
Throughout the recent campaign he conducted himself professionally despite
being vilified for no good reason other than partisanghip by you and a bunch
of cowardly anonymous posters. Randy deserved to be re-elected. The election
is over, Larry.


wrote in message
oups.com...
RANDY KNEW NUTHIN'

There still are good arguments for the move, and the new Board members
aren't talking about leaving Crossville. We have lower costs in a variety
of areas, have been able to change our staff structure to reduce costs and
make it more efficient, etc. Randy Bauer

Randy Bauer offers, as I also predicted he and the others would,
a defense of moving to Cross-to-Bear even if there is no free land or
no cheap new, wonderful building.

They cannot state the obvious: they gave up over 11,000 square
feet in New Windsor with an experienced staff and land fer nuthin' in
the middle of chess nowhere.

I reported last March that a new building in Cross-to-Bear was
projected to cost at least $650,000 and that this building would be
small, less than 5,000 square feet, compared with the more than 11,000
square feet in New Windsor. A comparable building to the New Windsor
facility in "low-cost" Tennessee would cost about one million. Sam
Sloan's estimate of a cost overrun running to about a half million was
almost exactly right on.

I was called a liar and dirt farmer. Then the Board majority let
the other shoe drop: they confirmed the $650,000 estimate (Randy Bauer
knew nuthin' about that either, of course!) and said that it would save
an absurd $50,000 by not paving a steep area in the back meant for
deliveries! Key-reist, what a face-saving lie that was meant to be!
Yet we were told that a major reason for selling the HQ in New Windsor
was lack of adequate parking!

I told you about the crooked architect's contract for $60,000,
which Randy Bauer and the other honest guys did not want you to know
about.

I let you know about wetlands and radon issues as well as the
bedrock right at the surface. No one will yet answer whether Harry
Sabine was passing on contracts for famished Phil Elmore, the local
Cross-to-Bear architect and $60,000 man.

Then I reported weeks ago that talks were going on about
returning the land and trying to get some form of compensation because
building was becoming an impracticable solution. I was called a liar
again, and once again, honest Randy Bauer said he knew nuthin' of such
talks.

YET: there was a search going on for my sources even as these
guys were denying that what I reported was true.

Well, the gang of four soon will be gone. Randy Bauer will try to
hang around, no doubt, but I think his credibility is far from what it
was. And rightly so.