"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
I am intrigued by the potential of
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
for locating false posters.


I'm not surprised about Mr. Brennen's behavior. He misrepresented himself as
chess historian and after some discussion on this list he confessed that he
is not chess historian in reality, but some people think that he is chess
historian and that's reason why he undersigned himself as chess historian
(because his violent, un-controllable behavior if somebody was wrong, some
people called him The Histerian).
Mr. Brennen very often used different nicknames and blasphemed all chess
players (he is very weak chess player) and chess journalists.
Because his behavior he expelled himself from chess world and serious
discussion on this newsgroup.
But, his patron, Mr. Kingston is not too far from Neil's behavior.

Regards,
Goran Tomic

On 4 Aug 2005 18:18:26 -0700, "The Historian"
wrote:


Sam Sloan wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 15:56:03 -0700, "The Historian"
wrote:


Sam Sloan wrote:
I am intrigued by the potential of
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
for locating false posters.

For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.

Where was this "fake anonymous" biography posted? And more importantly,
under what screen name? I've been using "The Historian" as a handle for
a few months now.

Sure. You posted it right he

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...did=2010 3784

That is Wikipedia, a website that asks that people in the know correct
errors. The biographical entry had some errors, so I corrected them.

Note your ID 68.84.120.191

You did not use a screen name.

Since it's not a newsgroup, I don't see how I could have used a screen
name.

Another lie. You can log in with a screen name and a password. You did
not do that. Instead, you posted anonymously. Fortunately, you did not
realize that there is a way to trace you back and identify you as the
poster.

You then reposted what you wrote to this group under Salamalaikum
from kalash velley Chitral and added the comment

"Did Sloan write this? It sounds like someone is mocking him."

Yes, I wrote that.

All and all a typical sneaky and despicable act, so characteristic of
Neil Brennen.

So posting corrections to Wikipedia is "sneaky and despicable"?

It certainly is. Your "corrections" were nothing more than the
personal attacks that you so often post here.

Fortunately, a site administrator of Wikipedia immediately recognized
your "corrections" for what they were and cancelled all of them.

Sam Sloan

Sam Sloan wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 18:18:26 -0700, "The Historian"
wrote:


Sam Sloan wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 15:56:03 -0700, "The Historian"
wrote:


Sam Sloan wrote:
I am intrigued by the potential of
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
for locating false posters.

For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.

Where was this "fake anonymous" biography posted? And more importantly,
under what screen name? I've been using "The Historian" as a handle for
a few months now.

Sure. You posted it right he

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...did=2010 3784

That is Wikipedia, a website that asks that people in the know correct
errors. The biographical entry had some errors, so I corrected them.

Note your ID 68.84.120.191

You did not use a screen name.

Since it's not a newsgroup, I don't see how I could have used a screen
name.

Another lie. You can log in with a screen name and a password.

OK, I stand corrected. I didn't know you could register a screen name
with them.

You did
not do that. Instead, you posted anonymously.

I did no such thing. I merely corrected the errors in the Wikipedia
entry.

Fortunately, you did not
realize that there is a way to trace you back and identify you as the
poster.

I made no attempt to hide my identity.

You then reposted what you wrote to this group under Salamalaikum
from kalash velley Chitral and added the comment

"Did Sloan write this? It sounds like someone is mocking him."

Yes, I wrote that.

All and all a typical sneaky and despicable act, so characteristic of
Neil Brennen.

So posting corrections to Wikipedia is "sneaky and despicable"?

It certainly is. Your "corrections" were nothing more than the
personal attacks that you so often post here.

Do you deny you are a convicted felon, with a kidnapping conviction,
and have been barred from securities trading?

Fortunately, a site administrator of Wikipedia immediately recognized
your "corrections" for what they were and cancelled all of them.

Sam Sloan

This service should make it more easy to catch the fake posters.


Sam Sloan


Nope, you can't trust it...

I just checked and it said I'm on Sudafed, when I actually use
Benadryl.
It did however state I'm an OLM which is correct, but it said my last
game was played in 2004, it was actually 1994.. Nope.. I would not
trust this site too much.

Nothing proved that I can see...

Goran, you never fail to amuse in how you take the funny to be serious
and the serious to be funny. It is like a cyclic Platzwechsel in a
chess problem - Lord, that is always funny!

You're welcome

"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
I am intrigued by the potential of
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
for locating false posters.

For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.

I moved my Internet service from Jamaica Queens to the Morris Heights
Section of the Bronx on July 25-26, 2005.

Since the move, my Verio postings have been from
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80

My last posting from Jamaica Queens was on July 25, 2005 at 4:05 AM
under What's Next for Chess HQ? where I wrote "Hanke wrote that
right here".

It was from
NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.202.94.119

My next posting was the following day from the Bronx:
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:12:26 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80

Under Subject: Chess and Supreme Court I wrote "I will have to
post this one on my website too."

This service should make it more easy to catch the fake posters.

Sam Sloan

Goran Tomic wrote:

I'm disgusting of such dishonest people! Their instrict dirty threatens to
spoil all this newsgroup!

To have Goran Tomic, known thief of copyrighted material, complain
about "dishonest people," is like Al Capone complaining about tax
cheats.

So, I think that we would draw conclusion that
would be correct to kick Mr. Taylor Kingston off this newsgroup. Because Mr.
Kingston support Neil Brenenn in his dirty false mails.

I do not know what "dirty false mails" by Neil Brennen this refers
to. I do know of many false posts here by Goran Tomic, including many
gross personal insults.
As for Brennen's amendments to Sloan's Wikipedia entry, I have
offered no opinion; therefore it cannot be said that I support Brennen
in this regard.
I only noted that the NNTP-Posting-Host may not be as sure an
indicator of a poster's identity as Sloan assumed. Brennen's statement
that he did make the alterations renders that question moot.
For what my opinion is worth, I feel that Sloan putting up a
Wikipedia entry about himself was an act of petty egotism and laughable
pretentiousness. The only person I know who thinks Sloan deserves any
such treatment is Sloan himself. His rosy self-portrait, which
conveniently omitted many unsavory facts, apparently made such a
tempting target that Brennen could not restrain his satirical urges.
Even so, as far as I know Brennen wrote nothing false.
And according to Sloan, an editor has the right to revise, in
virtually any way he chooses, anything anyone submits to him (see our
discussion, elsewhere on this group, of Larry Evan's alteration of
something I wrote). And since Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, Sloan,
by his own bizarre logic, would therefore have to consider Brennen as
being within his rights.
Still, the alteration does not sit quite right with me. I personally
would not have done it. A better way, I think, would be for Wikipedia
to allow multiple entries on the same subject -- equal time, so to
speak, for opposing viewpoints. Thus we could have Sloan's Dorian
Gray-style self-portrait alongside Brennen's less flattering treatment,
rather than one superceding the other.

On 5 Aug 2005 06:41:03 -0700, "Taylor Kingston"
wrote:

A better way, I think, would be for Wikipedia
to allow multiple entries on the same subject -- equal time, so to
speak, for opposing viewpoints. Thus we could have Sloan's Dorian
Gray-style self-portrait alongside Brennen's less flattering treatment,
rather than one superceding the other.

Except that one does not consult an encyclopedia to view an argument
in progress. On controversial topics, we expect a concise summary of
the conflict by a (presumably) neutral third party.

Mike Murray wrote:
Except that one does not consult an encyclopedia to view an argument
in progress. On controversial topics, we expect a concise summary of
the conflict by a (presumably) neutral third party.

True, which brings into question the whole Wikipedia methodology.
Unlike, say, World Book or Britannica, there seems to be no competent
editorial control nor any guarantee that the contributors are either
neutral or knowledgeable. An encyclopedia to which anyone can
contribute can't be taken seriously.

"Taylor Kingston" wrote in message
oups.com...

Sam Sloan wrote:
I am intrigued by the potential of
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
for locating false posters.

For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.


Mr. Sloan revealed that Mr. Brennen was false poster. Mr. Brennen (The
Histerian) confessed it. The question is: Would you still support Mr.
Brennen?