Sam,

I'll play it rated, as long as you take the Knight on move 3. Agreed?

The Hoboken Chess Club, located on Park Avenue near the intersection of 4th
St., is a 10-minute walk from the Hoboken Path station and 20-30 minutes
from the Marshall. It's an hour's drive for me but that's no big deal.

G/30s mean 5 hours if the match goes 5 games. Of course if you win the first
two it's over in less than 2 hours. I don't mind driving back the following
week if we need to.

So?



"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:41:48 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:

I prefer it be rated as action chess. But if you insist I will play it as
a
G/30 or longer, as long as there are no rating restrictions on thematic
tournaments.

So?

There are no such restrictions. Mike Goodall holds a King's Gambit
Tournament every year in San Francisco. It is fully USCF rated and
very successful.

I am ready to play if you can find a place.

Unfortunately, Hackettstown is a three hour trip each way or a total
of six hours.

The lady at the Marshall Chess Club does not like me so we cannot play
there.

A public park is undesirable.

The Manhattan Chess Club is out of business.

I know of no other place.

Why are you afraid of losing all those rating points?

Admittedlty it will be bad for your reputation to lose 5-0 to the
Damiano's Defense.

Sam Sloan

Yes, the world's nerdiest reality TV show. "The Sloans."


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"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:20:42 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:

I take Sam's silence to mean he's chicken to accept the Damiano Knight
from
someone who's studied the opening for 10 minutes.

I admit that part of the idea of playing Damoano's Defense is the
element of surprise. I often pretend like I intended to play 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 f5 and the pawn accidentally slipped out of my hand and landed
on f6 instead of f5 by mistake.

LOL! Spoke like a real hustler.

Obviously, if you have had time to run it through Fritz and know
exactly what I am going to play, as I have posted it on this group, I
have lost a large part of my advantage.

But will they remember it OTB if they had only 5 minutes? There are so
many chess theoreticians and so few actual players...

Still, I am willing to play although I admit that I am less confident
of victory than I was against a really, really weak player like Bill
Brock or against an absolute beginner like Taylor Kingston.

...so many theoreticians and so few players!

Maybe we should all promote Sam aged 60 [about] into a star! I already
talked with someone about him as being a 'character' for TV and since
other people here are so pale in their enthusiasms, or non-players when it
actually comes down to it, or don't really have a real existence and are
personas only who we should accept at their own recommendation [lol!] -
then why not?

It would make him some money, and some fame, and dammit! Establish Tal's
idea by a demonstration that OTB chess is a game for gladiators, and any
old patzer can be wise armed with Fritz and 48 hours to be
smarter-than-thou - but those people are not chess players, they are
kibbitzers who only attempt to borrow a little glory.

I have read various people who say Tal was the greatest player of the past
age, and of course everyone also mentions Fischer, like him or not for his
personal charms, but in reasonable health and mostly sober Tal slaughtered
'em all in the late sixties. And he didn't do so by being theoretically
sound, and neither should anyone here think that their proposals of sound
play are evidence of their own worth as chess players when the clock is
ticking.

This is what seperates the great ones from the rest of us, and indeed,
players from the fantacists.

Phil Innes

Sam Sloan

My guess is surprise is 80% of it. Jim West played the White side sort of
the same way I'd play it against someone rated 300 points lower than me. I'd
play 3. Bc4 but the idea is not to get into a tactical melee against a
prepared (and possibly dangerous) opponent. Calvin, as you pointed out, is
just a bad player. Clearly the "worst move on the board" is Qh4.

Back when I was rated in the 1500s (probably a tad under-rated) I played a
100-game blitz match against a guy in my graduate program whose rating at
the time was in the 1800s. I won the match with many games to spare. He lost
because he was rusty, and had played a lot of open stuff. In the rematch he
played conservatively and whooped me.

At least you admit that the opening is unsound, which it most certainly is!



"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:20:42 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:

I take Sam's silence to mean he's chicken to accept the Damiano Knight
from
someone who's studied the opening for 10 minutes.

I admit that part of the idea of playing Damoano's Defense is the
element of surprise. I often pretend like I intended to play 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 f5 and the pawn accidentally slipped out of my hand and landed
on f6 instead of f5 by mistake.

Obviously, if you have had time to run it through Fritz and know
exactly what I am going to play, as I have posted it on this group, I
have lost a large part of my advantage.

Still, I am willing to play although I admit that I am less confident
of victory than I was against a really, really weak player like Bill
Brock or against an absolute beginner like Taylor Kingston.

Sam Sloan

Hoboken chess club:

http://hobokenchess.tripod.com/

So?

"Angelo DePalma" wrote in message
...

Sam,

I'll play it rated, as long as you take the Knight on move 3. Agreed?

The Hoboken Chess Club, located on Park Avenue near the intersection of
4th St., is a 10-minute walk from the Hoboken Path station and 20-30
minutes from the Marshall. It's an hour's drive for me but that's no big
deal.

G/30s mean 5 hours if the match goes 5 games. Of course if you win the
first two it's over in less than 2 hours. I don't mind driving back the
following week if we need to.

So?



"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:41:48 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:

I prefer it be rated as action chess. But if you insist I will play it as
a
G/30 or longer, as long as there are no rating restrictions on thematic
tournaments.

So?

There are no such restrictions. Mike Goodall holds a King's Gambit
Tournament every year in San Francisco. It is fully USCF rated and
very successful.

I am ready to play if you can find a place.

Unfortunately, Hackettstown is a three hour trip each way or a total
of six hours.

The lady at the Marshall Chess Club does not like me so we cannot play
there.

A public park is undesirable.

The Manhattan Chess Club is out of business.

I know of no other place.

Why are you afraid of losing all those rating points?

Admittedlty it will be bad for your reputation to lose 5-0 to the
Damiano's Defense.

Sam Sloan

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 06:19:00 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:


Sam,

I'll play it rated, as long as you take the Knight on move 3. Agreed?

You and Sam have about the same rating. If you get White and he
commits to play Damiano's Defense, isn't that enough of an edge ?

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:58:35 GMT, (Sam Sloan)
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:41:48 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:

I prefer it be rated as action chess. But if you insist I will play it as a
G/30 or longer, as long as there are no rating restrictions on thematic
tournaments.

So?

There are no such restrictions. Mike Goodall holds a King's Gambit
Tournament every year in San Francisco. It is fully USCF rated and
very successful.

I am ready to play if you can find a place.

Unfortunately, Hackettstown is a three hour trip each way or a total
of six hours.

The lady at the Marshall Chess Club does not like me

I can't imagine why.

Yes he's only about 40 points higher than me, but he has much more
experience. I believe he'd beat me in a no-nonsense match.

However, I think the reason he's not significantly higher-rated than I is
because he plays crappy openings. I play good openings, crappily.

The point of all this is that a less-experienced player rated slightly lower
than Sam will beat him decisively in an opening which he seems to think is
sound. Call it my Sam Sloan Reality Check Experience. I'm willing to put
money on it. To answer your question, it's no fun if Black plays 3...Qe7 or
something like that. Then it becomes a bad Petroff, where White is better
but not winning.

Sam has apparently convinced some people that the Damiano is not only sound,
but that White loses if he takes on e5. One of the people he's convinced,
who's rated less than 200 points below me, claims Black wins after Nxe5.
This same person recently refused to play me in a match at 2:1 time odds and
2:1 money odds (I insisted on at least 3 minutes).

I would play anyone rated up to 2200 in that opening, with those odds, any
day of the week, provided he, she, or it takes the Damiano Knight on move 3.

Angelo


"Mike Murray" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 06:19:00 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:


Sam,

I'll play it rated, as long as you take the Knight on move 3. Agreed?

You and Sam have about the same rating. If you get White and he
commits to play Damiano's Defense, isn't that enough of an edge ?

Sam,

I would love to try you and I will take the pawn. I do not know how it
would turn out. Most likely you would win as I have no tournament
experience at all. I am not afraid to "slug it out" and take wild
chances. SHould you find yourself in Tennessee, let me know. I will
have plenty of coffee for you.
Rob


Sam Sloan wrote:
Damiano's Defense Declined

Opponents are becoming afraid of my Damiano's Defense. I played it
twice in the Viking 4 County Open in Hackettstown NJ yesterday and
both of my opponents declined to take the pawn. I won the first game
easily. In the second game I played it against a rated master. I
achieved a winning position and I was thinking that I was going to
score my first victory over a master with the Damiano's Defense.
However, he came up with a fantastic queen sacrifice followed by a
bishop sacrifice which worked because my pieces happened to be in
exactly the right spot for a knight fork winning the game.

I cannot take any credit away from my opponent. He came up with
something really good. This should go in one of those White to play
and win problem collections.

After the game, I asked him why he did not take the pawn when I played
Damianos Defense. He said that he has overheard me mention Damianos
Defense in one of my conversations so he knew that I knew what I was
doing. Also, I had won my previous round game with Damianos Defense.
He said that he wanted to win the game, so he decided that he has
better not take that pawn.

He also said that he has see my picture in Chess Life magazine but he
had thought that I was just a chess politico. He had not realized that
I actually play the game too!

Here is the game: The first point of the game is that after 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 f6 3. Nc3 Bc5 he can no longer take the pawn because when he
checks with the queen I have the f8 square for my king. So, if he
wants to take the pawn he must do it on move three. Otherwise, the
opportunity will be lost forever.

Because of his passive play, I quickly built up an overwhelming
position and won a pawn. I would appreciate it if somebody could run
this game through Fritz because I believe that I had several wins.

I felt that my 35. . . . d4 was a good move because it set up knight
forks. One of the spectators, a master, felt that that was the losing
move however.

For sure, if he had not sacrificed his queen he had a bad position,
possibly losing, because of 38. Kg2 Ne5+ 39. Kh2 Bxb7. Although
material is equal, my threats of knight forks and discovered checks
against his exposed king gives me the advantage.

During the game, I though he could win with a rook sacrifice with 36.
Rxb5. However, after the game he pointed out that he had seen that and
instead I win by responding with a queen sacrifice with 36. Rxb5 Qxb5
!!

Sam Sloan

[Event "Viking 4 County Open"]
[Site "Hackettstown NJ"]
[Date "2005.08.20"]
[Round "04"]
[White "West, James R."]
[Black "Sloan, Sam"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C40"]
[WhiteElo "2206"]
[BlackElo "1941"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nc3 Bc5 4.Bc4 Ne7 5.d3 c6 6.a4 d5 7.Bb3 Bg4
8.h3 Bh5 9.Qe2 Qd6 10.a5 Nd7 11.Na4 Bb4+ 12.Bd2 b5 13.axb6 axb6
14.g4 Bg6 15.c3 Ba5 16.exd5 cxd5 17.Bc2 b5 18.Nc5 Qxc5 19.b4 Qc7
20.O-O O-O 21.bxa5 Rxa5 22.Rxa5 Qxa5 23.c4 Qc7 24.Bb4 Re8 25.cxb5
Qb6 26.Bxe7 Rxe7 27.Rb1 Nc5 28.Nh4 Be8 29.d4 Ne6 30.Nf5 Rb7
31.dxe5 Bxb5 32.Qd2 Qc5 33.exf6 gxf6 34.Bd3 Ng5 35.Qe3 d4 36.Qg3
Bc6 37.Rxb7 Nf3+ 38.Qxf3 (38. Kg2 Ne5+ 39. Kh2 Bxb7) 38...Bxf3
39.Bc4+ {Black resigns because of Qxc4 40. Rb8+ Kf7 41. Nd6# or 39.
... Kf8 40. Rb8+ Qc8 41. Qxc8#) 1-0

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:41:31 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:


So Sam, are we on? There's a lot of interest out here in western NJ. Ken
Thomas would host and we'd probably have a decent audience as well. There's
even talk of a Calcutta-type auction so there could be more $$ in this than
our $100.

I'll play it rated, as long as you take the Knight on move 3. Agreed?

The Hoboken Chess Club, located on Park Avenue near the intersection of
4th St., is a 10-minute walk from the Hoboken Path station and 20-30 minutes
from the Marshall. It's an hour's drive for me but that's no big deal.

G/30s mean 5 hours if the match goes 5 games. Of course if you win the first
two it's over in less than 2 hours. I don't mind driving back the following
week if we need to.

So?

OK. Angelo.I now have a little free time which I have not had for a
while, so I agree to play you a match with the Damiano's Defense under
the following conditions:

1. The time limit will be at least 30 minutes per side.
2. The match will be USCF rated.
3. The match will be broadcast live on ICC.
4. There will be a USCF certified arbiter present to settle any
disputes and also to send in the final result for rating.
5. In every game of the match, you will be White. I will be Black. The
first moves of every game will be 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nxe5 fxe5

We will be playing for at least $100 cash under the table.

You pick the time and place.

Agreed?

Sam Sloan

You must be kidding.


"Sam Sloan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:41:31 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:


So Sam, are we on? There's a lot of interest out here in western NJ. Ken
Thomas would host and we'd probably have a decent audience as well.
There's
even talk of a Calcutta-type auction so there could be more $$ in this
than
our $100.

I'll play it rated, as long as you take the Knight on move 3. Agreed?

The Hoboken Chess Club, located on Park Avenue near the intersection of
4th St., is a 10-minute walk from the Hoboken Path station and 20-30
minutes
from the Marshall. It's an hour's drive for me but that's no big deal.

G/30s mean 5 hours if the match goes 5 games. Of course if you win the
first
two it's over in less than 2 hours. I don't mind driving back the
following
week if we need to.

So?

OK. Angelo.I now have a little free time which I have not had for a
while, so I agree to play you a match with the Damiano's Defense under
the following conditions:

1. The time limit will be at least 30 minutes per side.
2. The match will be USCF rated.
3. The match will be broadcast live on ICC.
4. There will be a USCF certified arbiter present to settle any
disputes and also to send in the final result for rating.
5. In every game of the match, you will be White. I will be Black. The
first moves of every game will be 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nxe5 fxe5

We will be playing for at least $100 cash under the table.

You pick the time and place.

Agreed?

Sam Sloan