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Some weeks ago here, the thread "Misleading Book Titles"
discussed the fact that in his book "Unorthodox Openings" Eric Schiller recommended a book by GM Heikki Westerinen as best on the Nimzovich Defense (1.e4 Nc6). Some of the major issues of the discussion we (1) Did such a book exist? (2) If it did not, was Schiller's recommendation merely an inadvertent error? (3) If inadvertent, how is it that Schiller repeated the error several times? I have done some research over the past month, contacting the principal parties involved: Schiller, Westerinen, and American NM Hugh Myers. For the information of newsgroup readers, here are my findings. 1. Batsford published "Unorthodox Openings" by Joel Benjamin and Eric Schiller in 1987. In the section on Nimzovich's Defense (1.e4 Nc6) the authors wrote (page 50): "Myers, [IM Tim] Harding and Westerinen have all written books on the subject. Westerinen's is the best, but very hard to find." 2. This Westerinen book does *NOT* exist. Doubts were first raised by Hugh Myers. In the April-May 1988 issue of "The Myers Openings Bulletin" he wrote: "Hard to find! I should say so. I've never seen it, and other theoreticians have told me they don't know of it." Despite this and other evidence, Larry Parr insisted that the book might exist. To remove all doubt, I contacted Westerinen through Esko Nutilainen, an official of the Finnish Chess Federation. On 22 September 2005, Nutilainen wrote to me: "I just phoned to Heikki Westerinen and he confirmed that he has not written anythung [sic] about 1 e4 Nc6." Westerinen did write a book titled "Sc6!", published in Swedish in 1972, but it dealt only with the King's Indian line 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Be3 Nc6. 3. Schiller and Myers had a brief correspondence about the non-existent book in 1988. Myers wrote to Schiller, then in Hawaii, asking about it. Myers reports that Schiller replied by postcard, insisting that a book on 1.e4 Nc6 by Westerinen did exist, and that a copy was in his library in Chicago. Schiller promised to give Myers further information upon his return home. Here is Schiller's account, from an e-mail to me dated 16 September 2005: "[T]his was a response to an informal letter from Myers, I was in Hawaii with no chess library ... I answered off the top of my head, and simply got it wrong. I recalled the cover with the big bold Nc6! on it and assumed for some reason that it was a book on 1.e4 Nc6. Somehow the exchange found its way into the book, entirely my fault ... I corrected the information in a letter to Myers after I returned home and was confronted with the error." There are several problems with Schiller's response: 1) "Unorthodox Openings" was published in 1987, before Schiller's 1988 exchange with Myers, not after. Therefore it's impossible that "the exchange found its way into the book." Schiller's erroneous claim was made first in the book, then repeated to Myers. 2) While Schiller might at first assume that a book titled "Sc6!" was about the Nimzovich Defense, that cannot explain how he came to call it "the best" on that subject. To know a book is best, one must read it thoroughly. If he had read it, he would know it was not about 1.e4 Nc6. Despite repeated queries, Schiller has never explained how he came to say it was "the best." In an e-mail to me dated 9/17, Schiller said he might have been "confusing it with a German book, probably." However, he has never explained what German book that might have been. 3) On Schiller's claim that he "corrected the information in a letter to Myers" after returning to Chicago, Myers told me in a letter dated 28 September 2005: "I never received such a letter. The only thing I received from him in 1988 was a postcard from Hawaii saying the Westerinen book was in his library in Chicago." I leave it to readers to decide for themselves on this matter. I hope this added information is helpful. |
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On 15 Oct 2005 14:26:47 -0700, "Taylor Kingston"
wrote: Some weeks ago here, the thread "Misleading Book Titles" discussed the fact that in his book "Unorthodox Openings" Eric Schiller recommended a book by GM Heikki Westerinen as best on the Nimzovich Defense (1.e4 Nc6). Some of the major issues of the discussion we (1) Did such a book exist? (2) If it did not, was Schiller's recommendation merely an inadvertent error? (3) If inadvertent, how is it that Schiller repeated the error several times? Where are these "several times"? Schiller has acknowledged the error and stated that when the second edition of the book came out, the error was corrected. What more do you want? I have done some research over the past month, contacting the principal parties involved: Schiller, Westerinen, and American NM Hugh Myers. For the information of newsgroup readers, here are my findings. 1. Batsford published "Unorthodox Openings" by Joel Benjamin and Eric Schiller in 1987. In the section on Nimzovich's Defense (1.e4 Nc6) the authors wrote (page 50): "Myers, [IM Tim] Harding and Westerinen have all written books on the subject. Westerinen's is the best, but very hard to find." Another lie by Taylor Kingston. Tim Harding is not an IM. He is an untitled player rated 2225. While complaining about an error Schiller made in 1987, Taylor Kingston makes a far more serious error right here, but not as serious as saying that Korchnoi was a Soviet citizen in 1978, as Taylor Kingston wrote a few weeks ago. 2. This Westerinen book does *NOT* exist. Doubts were first raised by Hugh Myers. In the April-May 1988 issue of "The Myers Openings Bulletin" he wrote: "Hard to find! I should say so. I've never seen it, and other theoreticians have told me they don't know of it." Despite this and other evidence, Larry Parr insisted that the book might exist. To remove all doubt, I contacted Westerinen through Esko Nutilainen, an official of the Finnish Chess Federation. On 22 September 2005, Nutilainen wrote to me: "I just phoned to Heikki Westerinen and he confirmed that he has not written anythung [sic] about 1 e4 Nc6." Westerinen did write a book titled "Sc6!", published in Swedish in 1972, but it dealt only with the King's Indian line 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Be3 Nc6. 3. Schiller and Myers had a brief correspondence about the non-existent book in 1988. Myers wrote to Schiller, then in Hawaii, asking about it. Myers reports that Schiller replied by postcard, insisting that a book on 1.e4 Nc6 by Westerinen did exist, and that a copy was in his library in Chicago. Schiller promised to give Myers further information upon his return home. Here is Schiller's account, from an e-mail to me dated 16 September 2005: "[T]his was a response to an informal letter from Myers, I was in Hawaii with no chess library ... I answered off the top of my head, and simply got it wrong. I recalled the cover with the big bold Nc6! on it and assumed for some reason that it was a book on 1.e4 Nc6. Somehow the exchange found its way into the book, entirely my fault ... I corrected the information in a letter to Myers after I returned home and was confronted with the error." There are several problems with Schiller's response: 1) "Unorthodox Openings" was published in 1987, before Schiller's 1988 exchange with Myers, not after. Therefore it's impossible that "the exchange found its way into the book." Schiller's erroneous claim was made first in the book, then repeated to Myers. 2) While Schiller might at first assume that a book titled "Sc6!" was about the Nimzovich Defense, that cannot explain how he came to call it "the best" on that subject. To know a book is best, one must read it thoroughly. Oh really. Does this mean that you have "read thoroughly" all the books by Schiller, Keene and Evans that you have been panning? If you have read all those chess books, why are you so weak? If he had read it, he would know it was not about 1.e4 Nc6. Despite repeated queries, Schiller has never explained how he came to say it was "the best." It is very simple. Westeinen is a grandmaster, a fact Taylor Kingston conveniently neglects to mention and a fact that members of this group likely do not know. Naturally, if books are written on the same chess opening by a grandmaster and by two untitled players, the book by the grandmaster will probably be the best, and Schiller made this assumption. In an e-mail to me dated 9/17, Schiller said he might have been "confusing it with a German book, probably." However, he has never explained what German book that might have been. 3) On Schiller's claim that he "corrected the information in a letter to Myers" after returning to Chicago, Myers told me in a letter dated 28 September 2005: "I never received such a letter. The only thing I received from him in 1988 was a postcard from Hawaii saying the Westerinen book was in his library in Chicago." I leave it to readers to decide for themselves on this matter. I hope this added information is helpful. It certainly is. You have demonstrated, as one member of this group has just noted, "Taylor Kingston also likes to remind us that he's a sanctimonious prig." You have also demonstrated that since 1987 Eric Schiller has never made an error, because otherwise you would cite that error as proof of your claims, rather than cite this 1987 error over and over again in dozens of postings here. Sam Sloan Sam Sloan |
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Sam Sloan wrote:
"Taylor Kingston" wrote: Some weeks ago here, the thread "Misleading Book Titles" discussed the fact that in his book "Unorthodox Openings" Eric Schiller recommended a book by GM Heikki Westerinen as best on the Nimzovich Defense (1.e4 Nc6). Some of the major issues of the discussion we (1) Did such a book exist? (2) If it did not, was Schiller's recommendation merely an inadvertent error? (3) If inadvertent, how is it that Schiller repeated the error several times? Where are these "several times"? Schiller has acknowledged the error and stated that when the second edition of the book came out, the error was corrected. This thread seems to belong in RGCM rather than only in RGCP. As I recall, Sam Sloan published in rec.games.chess.* an E-mail by Eric Schiller in response to Taylor Kingston about this subject. Would Sam Sloan like to post it again in this thread? It seems fairest that both Taylor Kingston and Eric Schiller should be able to express themselves on this subject in this thread. Although I do not necessarily accept everything written by Eric Schiller in his E-mail (as published by Sam Sloan), to his credit, Eric Schiller made no attempt to blame his co-author, GM Joel Benjamin, for the error. What more do you want? I doubt that Eric Schiller *lied*--intentionally made a false statement--when he mentioned GM Westernin's non-existent book. What on earth could Eric Schiller have to gain by doing that? Eric Schiller should be blamed for being very careless with the facts and perhaps also for being reluctant to admit error and disingenuous in covering up his error. But I doubt that Eric Schiller *lied* in the first place about it. I have done some research over the past month, contacting the principal parties involved: Schiller, Westerinen, and American NM Hugh Myers. For the information of newsgroup readers, here are my findings. 1. Batsford published "Unorthodox Openings" by Joel Benjamin and Eric Schiller in 1987. In the section on Nimzovich's Defense (1.e4 Nc6) the authors wrote (page 50): "Myers, [IM Tim] Harding and Westerinen have all written books on the subject. Westerinen's is the best, but very hard to find." Another lie by Taylor Kingston. Tim Harding is not an IM. It's true that Tim Harding is *not* a FIDE IM in OTB play. But Tim Harding *is* an ICCF Senior International Master of correspondence chess (according to his homepage). He is an untitled player rated 2225. True, according to the FIDE website. While complaining about an error Schiller made in 1987, Taylor Kingston makes a far more serious error right here, I disagree with Sam Sloan on that point. but not as serious as saying that Korchnoi was a Soviet citizen in 1978, as Taylor Kingston wrote a few weeks ago. 2. This Westerinen book does *NOT* exist. Doubts were first raised by Hugh Myers. In the April-May 1988 issue of "The Myers Openings Bulletin" he wrote: "Hard to find! I should say so. I've never seen it, and other theoreticians have told me they don't know of it." Despite this and other evidence, Larry Parr insisted that the book might exist. To remove all doubt, I contacted Westerinen through Esko Nutilainen, an official of the Finnish Chess Federation. On 22 September 2005, Nutilainen wrote to me: "I just phoned to Heikki Westerinen and he confirmed that he has not written anythung [sic] about 1 e4 Nc6." Westerinen did write a book titled "Sc6!", published in Swedish in 1972, but it dealt only with the King's Indian line 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Be3 Nc6. 3. Schiller and Myers had a brief correspondence about the non-existent book in 1988. Myers wrote to Schiller, then in Hawaii, asking about it. Myers reports that Schiller replied by postcard, insisting that a book on 1.e4 Nc6 by Westerinen did exist, and that a copy was in his library in Chicago. Schiller promised to give Myers further information upon his return home. Here is Schiller's account, from an e-mail to me dated 16 September 2005: "[T]his was a response to an informal letter from Myers, I was in Hawaii with no chess library ... I answered off the top of my head, and simply got it wrong. I recalled the cover with the big bold Nc6! on it and assumed for some reason that it was a book on 1.e4 Nc6. Somehow the exchange found its way into the book, entirely my fault ... I corrected the information in a letter to Myers after I returned home and was confronted with the error." There are several problems with Schiller's response: 1) "Unorthodox Openings" was published in 1987, before Schiller's 1988 exchange with Myers, not after. Therefore it's impossible that "the exchange found its way into the book." Schiller's erroneous claim was made first in the book, then repeated to Myers. 2) While Schiller might at first assume that a book titled "Sc6!" was about the Nimzovich Defense, that cannot explain how he came to call it "the best" on that subject. To know a book is best, one must read it thoroughly. Oh really. Does this mean that you have "read thoroughly" all the books by Schiller, Keene and Evans that you have been panning? If you have read all those chess books, why are you so weak? If he had read it, he would know it was not about 1.e4 Nc6. Despite repeated queries, Schiller has never explained how he came to say it was "the best." It is very simple. Westeinen is a grandmaster, a fact Taylor Kingston conveniently neglects to mention and a fact that members of this group likely do not know. Naturally, if books are written on the same chess opening by a grandmaster and by two untitled players, the book by the grandmaster will probably be the best, and Schiller made this assumption. Sam Sloan's hypothesis about Eric Schiller's *assumption* seems plausible enough. But Eric Schiller *should* have read that (non-existent) book *before* claiming that it's the 'best'. :-) In an e-mail to me dated 9/17, Schiller said he might have been "confusing it with a German book, probably." However, he has never explained what German book that might have been. 3) On Schiller's claim that he "corrected the information in a letter to Myers" after returning to Chicago, Myers told me in a letter dated 28 September 2005: "I never received such a letter. The only thing I received from him in 1988 was a postcard from Hawaii saying the Westerinen book was in his library in Chicago." I leave it to readers to decide for themselves on this matter. I hope this added information is helpful. It certainly is. You have demonstrated, as one member of this group has just noted, "Taylor Kingston also likes to remind us that he's a sanctimonious prig." I wrote that statement (above) quoted by Sam Sloan. But I wrote it in a different context, and I object to Sam Sloan quoting it, without asking for my permission, in this context. My criticisms of Taylor Kingston are independent of Sam Sloan's criticisms of Taylor Kingston. And I disagree with many of Sam Sloan's criticisms (as far as I recall) of Taylor Kingston. --Nick |
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Sam Sloan wrote (Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:28:56 GMT):
Schiller has acknowledged the error and stated that when the second edition of the book came out, the error was corrected. What more do you want? _ I think that what some are looking for is the explanation of how it came about that the chess world was told that a non-existent book was the best on 1 e4 Nc6. |
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Sam Sloan wrote (Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:28:56 GMT):
Schiller has acknowledged the error and stated that when the second edition of the book came out, the error was corrected. What more do you want? _ I think that what some are looking for is Eric Schiller's explanation of how it came about that the chess world was told that a non-existent book was the best on 1 e4 Nc6. |
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Louis Blair wrote: Sam Sloan wrote (Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:28:56 GMT): Schiller has acknowledged the error and stated that when the second edition of the book came out, the error was corrected. What more do you want? _ I think that what some are looking for is Eric Schiller's explanation of how it came about that the chess world was told that a non-existent book was the best on 1 e4 Nc6. Westerinen's book was on display at Stockmann's in Helsinki when I was there in 1973. The paper cover bore the title "5 ... Sc6!" (I hope I remember the move number correctly.) Evidently Schiller remembered the "Sc6!" portion, which *by itself* meant to him a book on the Nimzovich Defense. Schiller has seen the book, but has not read it, I am sure. David Ames |
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David Ames wrote: Westerinen's book was on display at Stockmann's in Helsinki when I was there in 1973. The paper cover bore the title "5 ... Sc6!" (I hope I remember the move number correctly.) Evidently Schiller remembered the "Sc6!" portion, which *by itself* meant to him a book on the Nimzovich Defense. It must have "6...Sc6!". The line it covered was 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Be3 Nc6. Thanks for the information that the cover had the move number on it. I did not know that until now. It makes Schiller's gaffe even harder to excuse, since even by just reading the cover he could see that the book was not about the opening 1.e4 Nc6. Schiller has seen the book, but has not read it, I am sure. Which leaves unanswered the question of how he decided it was the best book on 1.e4 Nc6. Schiller claims that perhaps he was thinking of some other book, perhaps in German, but he has never explained, to my knowledge, what that book might have been, or on what basis he considered it better than those by Myers or Harding, which *were* actually about 1.e4 Nc6. Readers who can get hold of a copy of the old Myers Openings Bulletin #39 (1988) will find a lengthy review of the 1987 edition of "Unorthodox Chess Openings." The review is co-written by American NM Hugh Myers and German FM Stefan Bücker, both great experts in unusual openings. Schiller supporters who've been asking for some quantitative analysis of the frequency of error in Schiller's work will likely get quite a lot to chew on from that review. |
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Taylor Kingston wrote: David Ames wrote: Westerinen's book was on display at Stockmann's in Helsinki when I was there in 1973. The paper cover bore the title "5 ... Sc6!" (I hope I remember the move number correctly.) Evidently Schiller remembered the "Sc6!" portion, which *by itself* meant to him a book on the Nimzovich Defense. It must have "6...Sc6!". The line it covered was 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Be3 Nc6. Thanks for the information that the cover had the move number on it. I did not know that until now. It makes Schiller's gaffe even harder to excuse, since even by just reading the cover he could see that the book was not about the opening 1.e4 Nc6. Schiller has seen the book, but has not read it, I am sure. Which leaves unanswered the question of how he decided it was the best book on 1.e4 Nc6. It seems to me that Schiller must simply have remembered the "Sc6!" on the cover. If he believed there was a book on the Nimzovich Defense by GM Westerinen, it would not have been hard to believe that a GM's book was better than anyone else's. Others, of course, may see it differently. David Ames |
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David Ames wrote: Schiller has seen the book, but has not read it, I am sure. Which leaves unanswered the question of how he decided it was the best book on 1.e4 Nc6. It seems to me that Schiller must simply have remembered the "Sc6!" on the cover. If he believed there was a book on the Nimzovich Defense by GM Westerinen, it would not have been hard to believe that a GM's book was better than anyone else's. Others, of course, may see it differently. Schiller has given two different (and not entirely consistent) excuses for his error; neither quite fits your scenario. Even granting your hypothesis for the sake of argument, Schiller did not just *assume* the GM's book was best, he published an explicit claim that it *was* best, without reading it or even knowing what it was about. That is just as irresponsible and unfair as, say, a reviewer panning a Schiller book he has not read, just because of Schiller's bad reputation. |
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PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES (continued)
Self-proclaimed NM Taylor Kingston, who lied baldly about his own rating (he's 1800 and claimed 2300+ Elo) is essentially arguing that Eric Schiller had to be lying when claiming as best a book on the Nimzovich Defense that was not on that opening. What obviously occurred was that among the mountains of books Eric has consulted in writing his 100-plus works he confused something written by one author for a work written by another author. Perhaps he looked at an old issue of Euwe's Chess Archives, confounded it with Sc6! on the cover of the Westerinen book, and remembered how concise and neat Euwe's work was, figuring it was Westerinen's. (Even so, for the record and somewhat inapropos, the finest work on that opening I have seen is by a Midwest master named Hugh Myers, a book that falls under the heading of a lifetime labor of love.) Eric's claim was mistaken, perhaps even careless. It is NOT what NM Kingston in his cankered junk tries to make it: irresponsible, unfair, dishonest. On a few occasions in both chess and non-chess writing, I have imagined a book that did not exist as I recollected. Luckily, I caught myself, and the misapprehension did not appear in cold print. Eric was not so fortunate, though we must keep in mind that we have only NM Kingston's word that he contacted the Finns, etc. He may be telling the truth, or he may not. There is no reason at this juncture to take his word about anything at face value. Concerning the accuracy of NM Kingston or, for that matter, his mentor Edward Winter, one can point to embarrassing lapses. NM Kingston was apparently unaware of his own rating when making a false claim. Either that -- or he was lying. He recently told us that Victor Korchnoi was a Soviet citizen in 1978. Edward Winter wrote a screed attacking the accuracy of Larry Evans in which he found 25 errors over a period of roughly 50 years. I found a higher incidence of error in Winter's essay on accuracy than he actually adduced for Evans! He was so eager to pounce on the slighest error of the 5-time U.S. Champion that he even tried to impale GM Evans for referring to The Oxford Companion To Chess as The Oxford Companion Of Chess. One could, if one wished, adopt an arch contumely and note the absurdity of a man lattacking another for inaccuracy while committing a higher incidence of such inaccuracy in the attack. The goal is to cut down on mistakes without trying to crucify an author with the kind of bile that flows from the pen of Edward Winter and his pet student Taylor Kingston. |
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