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In the rgcp thread "Schiller, Westerinen and Myers" I examined Eric Schiller's excuses for recommending a book that does not exist as the "best" on the Nimzovich Defense, presenting testimony from GM Heikki Westerinen and NM Hugh Myers. In my recent correspondence with Myers, he pointed out another gaffe by Schiller that can only be characterized as bare-faced mendacity or utter ineptitude. In the 1987 edition of "Unorthodox Chess Openings" (the same book in which Schiller recommended the non-existent book), there is a discussion of the Myers Gambit in the English Opening: 1.c4 g5 2.d4 Bg7. For the rest of the story, I quote from Myers' book "A Chess Explorer" page 102: Then resurrecting the dispute about 1.c4 g5 2.d4 Bg7, [Schiller and Benjamin] ... dared to call a move "stupid" which "Myers gives" -- without saying that in Myers Openings Bulletin #27, in an article that I didn't write, it was clearly stated that the move which they called 'stupid' was in analysis by *_Schiller_*! So we have an interesting situation: either Schiller lied in UCO trying to make Myers look bad, or Schiller has such a poor memory that he does not remember what he himself has written, and calls his own analysis "stupid" while blaming someone else. This from the man Cardoza publishing calls "the world's leading writer on chess openings." And so it goes. |
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Dear Taylor,
I hate to say this because I respect your writing however aren't you beating a dead horse here? I mean everyone knows Schiller writes crappy books. Very crappy books. (I sometimes wonder if he even writes them himself.) So why belabor us with all the trivial mistakes? Common man isn't it time to let this one die out? Best regards, Duncan "Taylor Kingston" wrote in message oups.com... In the rgcp thread "Schiller, Westerinen and Myers" I examined Eric Schiller's excuses for recommending a book that does not exist as the "best" on the Nimzovich Defense, presenting testimony from GM Heikki Westerinen and NM Hugh Myers. In my recent correspondence with Myers, he pointed out another gaffe by Schiller that can only be characterized as bare-faced mendacity or utter ineptitude. In the 1987 edition of "Unorthodox Chess Openings" (the same book in which Schiller recommended the non-existent book), there is a discussion of the Myers Gambit in the English Opening: 1.c4 g5 2.d4 Bg7. For the rest of the story, I quote from Myers' book "A Chess Explorer" page 102: Then resurrecting the dispute about 1.c4 g5 2.d4 Bg7, [Schiller and Benjamin] ... dared to call a move "stupid" which "Myers gives" -- without saying that in Myers Openings Bulletin #27, in an article that I didn't write, it was clearly stated that the move which they called 'stupid' was in analysis by *_Schiller_*! So we have an interesting situation: either Schiller lied in UCO trying to make Myers look bad, or Schiller has such a poor memory that he does not remember what he himself has written, and calls his own analysis "stupid" while blaming someone else. This from the man Cardoza publishing calls "the world's leading writer on chess openings." And so it goes. |
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"Taylor Kingston" wrote in
oups.com: In the 1987 edition of "Unorthodox Chess Openings" (the same book in which Schiller recommended the non-existent book), [...] Irony, oh, the irony... |
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Duncan Oxley wrote: Dear Taylor, I hate to say this because I respect your writing however aren't you beating a dead horse here? I mean everyone knows Schiller writes crappy books. Very crappy books. A fair point, Duncan, but quite evidently some people on these newsgroups haven't gotten the word. Several here seem to be trying to portray Schiller as a fine writer who is the innocent victim of a conspiracy to ban his books. So I posted this to show that Schiller's work is not only poor quality, but to demonstrate that he is either ludicrously incompetent, or highly dishonest. Considering his evasive and inconsistent answers about the non-existent Westerinen book, the latter looks more likely. Also, in his recent letters Hugh Myers indicated this particular incident was particularly noteworthy; in fact in "A Chess Explorer" he describes it as "a new low for ignoring the truth in a chess book." Myers is not a computer-user, and I felt his point deserved to be posted here. So why belabor us with all the trivial mistakes? Common man isn't it time to let this one die out? Believe me, I have posted only a small percentage of Schiller's "mistakes," and in the current situation I don't consider them trivial. I want the public to be aware that those "crusading" on Schiller's behalf are either ignorant or dishonest. As I said in another post, Schiller's advocates are like someone pretending to be a nutritionist, and asking "Should we not examine whether dirt is a food? Why does this grocery not sell dirt? What sinister cabal is denying us our right to eat dirt?" But no, I will not post every Schiller gaffe here. Life is too short, and Google may not have enough disk space. |
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PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES
We note that NM Taylor Kingston, the 1800-rated but self-proclaimed 2300+ ELO electrode, could not recollect his own rating within 500 points, which was one of the sleaziest episodes on this site in recent years. NM Kingston told us a lot about himself with that ego-driven lie. Then NM Kingston told us that we was leaving "indefinitely." But he hung around and around and around. He was just gasifying. Now NM Kingston blames Eric Schiller, the author of dozens of books, for having forgotten analysis. Keres forgot adjournment analysis, and Gligoric played into a line of the Exchange Ruy against Fischer, having recommended Fischer's line himself in earlier analysis! Botvinnik overlooked a one-mover in analysis of a Gruenfeld that gave Bobby a pawn in their 1962 game at Varna. Mieses overlooked mate in one in some of his analysis. Zukertort played into the same opening trap twice! Rubinstein, too, if memory serves. How refreshing a Ray Keene is when compared with a NM Kingston or an Edward Winter. In his Chess Life coverage of the second Spassky-Korchnoi match, Keene condemned a French line for white, which Spassky then improved upon dramatically later on. He wrote, if memory serves, that his earlier note looked "pretty sick" at this point. It was honest, and the reader appreciated watching the dialectic within a grandmaster's mind as he searched for truth. Yes, Keene should not have been so categorical earlier, but he was speaking his mind. So, too, with Eric Schiller. If he does not feel able to evaluate a position, he says so. If he has an idea, he gives it to us. And yes, he cannot remember everything he has written, any more than a much less prolific Gligoric could do. On the subject of honesty, Eric Schiller may once have been an 1800-rated player, but I doubt that he ever lied in the ratty style of NM Kingston at that time that he was a 2300+ ELO powerhouse. True, Eric later reached 2300+ or thereabouts in his ELO. Knowing Eric, however, he has a puckish sense of humor. Perhaps he will appear here and tell us that he is only an 1800-rated player. Second thought, no. "Sandbagger!" the likes of a NM Kingston would then holler. And so it goes. |
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THE WAR AGAINST SCHILLER
The most recent error alleged against Eric Schiller is that he forgot analysis that he himself had written. NM Taylor Kingston, the 1800-rated guy who lied about being 2300+ ELO, is banking on most of you having little knowledge of just how difficult most grandmasters, let alone others, find chess to be. NM Kingston figures that most of you are unaware that the errors alleged against Eric Schiller, a true 2300-region ELO master, occur across 100 or so books -- an enormous body of work. He figures most of you are unaware that, say, a Gligoric forgot his own analysis and so have grandmasters playing only ONE game, their own after adjournment. Keres, one of the greatest of all adjournment analysts, forgot what he analyzed. Botvinnik in pregame analysis overlooked a one-mover that Bobby saw instantly. Portisch could not see the stock Bxh7+ sacrifice and lost to Donner. Mieses published analysis missing a mate on the move, and he wrote only a handful of books. The war against Eric Schiller is in defense of ChessCafe, which publishes Taylor Kingston and bans Mr. Schiller's work, just as it banned books by Keene and Evans until recently. The memoir that Arnold Denker and I wrote, though in print and though winning the ACF and Cramer book of the year award in 1996, is also banned. So are the two instructional volumes that I penned with Lev Alburt. The issue is not whether Eric Schiller commits errors. He does. Indeed, he must. Chess is not yet susceptible to full mastery. The issue is the incidence of analytical error as opposed to other authors, and no study has been presented here to indicate that Schiller is much better or worse than others. |
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WHO'S CLOSER TO THE MARK?
Given that he *did* become a FM, Eric Schiller could have achieved a peak of 2300+ FIDE at some moment between the publications of the FIDE ratings lists. Does any reader here know more details about that? -- Nick I wrote that Eric Schiller was in the "region" of 2300 or 2300+ "thereabouts." Nick Bourbaki says he peaked at 2270, though possibly went over 2300 in performance ratings because he has the FM title. If he went over, then I submit that my description would be spot on. I submit, in any event, that my description of Eric's playing strength was largely accurate. It certainly comes closer to the mark than NM Taylor Kingston, our 1800-rated guy, who claimed to be 2300-plus. One might argue that NM Kingston has won the USCF Ultimate Unsandbagger Award. REQUEST TO FM SCHILLER: could you humor us and drop by here and claim to be an 1800-rated player, if only to prompt NM Kingston to begin screaming that you are a self-declared sandbagger? Eric: it is undoutedly a character flaw, but I really am curious to see how low NM Kingston will sink in his advocacy. |
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DULCET ACCORD
I cited the ChessBase Player Encyclopedia because it substantially corroborated what Larry Parr wrote. -- Nick Peace -- perhaps peace at any price! I figured that Nick Bourbaki was agreeing with me. My comments were by way of preempting possible obfuscations from other quarters. Mr. Bourbaki and I are in dulcet accord on this point. |
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