Could someone please translate Zithead's response into English?

C. George
"The Pushed Pawn" wrote in message news:ARo9f.9714$bD.9317@trndny01...
well as a real estate I suppose you can take a closing fee whither or not that qualifies you in other fields is debateable ... those figures are not mine (as I don't have time to dish out first class research to non-paying custumers) but taken they are EBAY Sterling related argue with them the facts are it was a very poor decision to sell the property in Newburgh to move to Crossville .... $600,000 is too much cause I can see $200,000 is too much as for Mr Klem expertise in design we must ask as to what the budget on building that casino was because Architects fees for adjusting the designs to switch materials at will is expensive demanding and prohibitive for the USCF humble dwellings as you all are like a mob of chickens picking at one lone till they are no more

"John J." wrote in message . ..
Huh?

I just pointed something out that I thought was not very realistic. Where do you get the impression I'm slamming the messenger?

As a licensed Real Estate agent I know something about appreciation. I'm not even a member of the USCF anymore. So just relax.

Another number which has been brandished around here is that a frame building would only last 19 years. That's hogwash.

John
"The Pushed Pawn" wrote in message news:h%59f.7381$bD.7121@trndny01...
John you are generally correct though short sighted if a building appreciates at one rate vs another that must be considered. There are two types of depreciation regarding the life of the building which for tax purposes depreciates at one rate and physically may at another rate.

A high rate of appreciation for a building would be difficult to maintain, but yours like Sam Sloan's manner of blunt embelishment added to what I said when you should of literally considered how what I said exemplified the distinctions between the two investments which you disregarded as we can presume you supported the EB members who approved of the matter.

In any case maybe you might get the idea instead of blaming the messenger as you do.


"John J." wrote in message ...
To assume an appreciation of 15% over a 44 year period for a building in Newburg is preposterous.

John
"The Pushed Pawn" wrote in message news:6w29f.6192$bD.4990@trndny01...
USCF Crossville Tennessee Building Construction a Bad Investment
by Andrew Zito October 29. 2005.

Though I am not an architect nor in the construction trades recently
I mentioned in passing references views that generally challenged
accepted references regarding the USCF decision to construct a
building for its use as a headquarters at the new location of
Crossville Tennessee . I write this at the bequest of Mr. Sam Sloan
who expressed that it was generally accepted within USCF circles that
such a building would be constructed of masonry and be of a permanent
long lasting nature rather than frame stud construction. This is the
culminative result of information, belief and knowledge, and further
research relating to the matter.

AS this article includes photographs in support of what is said it is
posted in full on pushedpawn.org

Click here to read the whole report:




for further information

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Punctuation isn't Andy's strong suit.

"Curious George" wrote in message news:WuR9f.181$9E4.11@trndny02...
Could someone please translate Zithead's response into English?

C. George
"The Pushed Pawn" wrote in message news:ARo9f.9714$bD.9317@trndny01...
well as a real estate I suppose you can take a closing fee whither or not that qualifies you in other fields is debateable ... those figures are not mine (as I don't have time to dish out first class research to non-paying custumers) but taken they are EBAY Sterling related argue with them the facts are it was a very poor decision to sell the property in Newburgh to move to Crossville .... $600,000 is too much cause I can see $200,000 is too much as for Mr Klem expertise in design we must ask as to what the budget on building that casino was because Architects fees for adjusting the designs to switch materials at will is expensive demanding and prohibitive for the USCF humble dwellings as you all are like a mob of chickens picking at one lone till they are no more

"John J." wrote in message . ..
Huh?

I just pointed something out that I thought was not very realistic. Where do you get the impression I'm slamming the messenger?

As a licensed Real Estate agent I know something about appreciation. I'm not even a member of the USCF anymore. So just relax.

Another number which has been brandished around here is that a frame building would only last 19 years. That's hogwash.

John
"The Pushed Pawn" wrote in message news:h%59f.7381$bD.7121@trndny01...
John you are generally correct though short sighted if a building appreciates at one rate vs another that must be considered. There are two types of depreciation regarding the life of the building which for tax purposes depreciates at one rate and physically may at another rate.

A high rate of appreciation for a building would be difficult to maintain, but yours like Sam Sloan's manner of blunt embelishment added to what I said when you should of literally considered how what I said exemplified the distinctions between the two investments which you disregarded as we can presume you supported the EB members who approved of the matter.

In any case maybe you might get the idea instead of blaming the messenger as you do.


"John J." wrote in message ...
To assume an appreciation of 15% over a 44 year period for a building in Newburg is preposterous.

John
"The Pushed Pawn" wrote in message news:6w29f.6192$bD.4990@trndny01...
USCF Crossville Tennessee Building Construction a Bad Investment
by Andrew Zito October 29. 2005.

Though I am not an architect nor in the construction trades recently
I mentioned in passing references views that generally challenged
accepted references regarding the USCF decision to construct a
building for its use as a headquarters at the new location of
Crossville Tennessee . I write this at the bequest of Mr. Sam Sloan
who expressed that it was generally accepted within USCF circles that
such a building would be constructed of masonry and be of a permanent
long lasting nature rather than frame stud construction. This is the
culminative result of information, belief and knowledge, and further
research relating to the matter.

AS this article includes photographs in support of what is said it is
posted in full on pushedpawn.org

Click here to read the whole report:




for further information

The Pushed Pawn: You have to fight for your right to play chess!
http://pushedpawn.org

SUCH A BARGAIN!

Even though I might have preferred an all masonry structure, it
appears that the wood frame and brick veneer structure is pretty
typical
for the area. As long as it's maintained properly and checked for
termites regularly there's every reason to expect that the building
will last longer than any of us will. -- Joel Channing

So, then, the building in Crossville will be wood
with a brick "veneer." It will be about 40 to 45
percent the size of the structure in New Windsor. It
will cost more than the sale price of the structure in
New Windsor.

For this bargain, the Federation ends up in the
Cumberland Gap.

The termites? Here's betting that the building
will not be checked regularly for termites (an
accidental oversight by a relative of the local
architect) and there will be plenty of business down
the years for the local good ol' boys. That is also
one of the traditions in a place such as Crossville.

How many tornadoes per year in the Burning Crossville area?

Point of clarification:

I was only responding to the question of how the building was being
built.

Joel Channing


wrote:
SUCH A BARGAIN!

Even though I might have preferred an all masonry structure, it
appears that the wood frame and brick veneer structure is pretty
typical
for the area. As long as it's maintained properly and checked for
termites regularly there's every reason to expect that the building
will last longer than any of us will. -- Joel Channing

So, then, the building in Crossville will be wood
with a brick "veneer." It will be about 40 to 45
percent the size of the structure in New Windsor. It
will cost more than the sale price of the structure in
New Windsor.

For this bargain, the Federation ends up in the
Cumberland Gap.

The termites? Here's betting that the building
will not be checked regularly for termites (an
accidental oversight by a relative of the local
architect) and there will be plenty of business down
the years for the local good ol' boys. That is also
one of the traditions in a place such as Crossville.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION

Point of clarification: I was only responding to the question of how
the building was being built. -- Joel Channing

We are well aware that Mr. Channing was elected to the board after
the hideous decision to sell the building in New Windsor or the choice
of Cross-to-Bear that was pushed through by Beatriz Marinello. Alas,
his hands were tied.

HELLO I BELIEVE I POSTED ON SITE BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE HAD and repaired FOR
ABOUT $100,000 rather than $600,000

go to http://www.pushedpawn.org/uscf1/uscf00001s.html

Larry I know you and I can write but when we learn to read?

Hon. Rev. Andrew Zito Esq.
P.O.Box 1615
Altoona, Pa 16603
HELLO I BELIEVE I POSTED ON SITE BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE HAD and repaired FOR
ABOUT $100,000 rather than $600,000

go to http://www.pushedpawn.org/uscf1/uscf00001s.html

Larry I know you and I can write but when we learn to read?

Hon. Rev. Andrew Zito Esq.
P.O.Box 1615
Altoona, Pa 16603

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POINT OF CLARIFICATION

Point of clarification: I was only responding to the question of how
the building was being built. -- Joel Channing

We are well aware that Mr. Channing was elected to the board after
the hideous decision to sell the building in New Windsor or the choice
of Cross-to-Bear that was pushed through by Beatriz Marinello. Alas,
his hands were tied.

HELLO I BELIEVE I POSTED ON SITE BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE HAD and repaired FOR
ABOUT $100,000 rather than $600,000

go to http://www.pushedpawn.org/uscf1/uscf00001s.html

Larry I know you and I can write but when we learn to read?

Hon. Rev. Andrew Zito Esq.
P.O.Box 1615
Altoona, Pa 16603
HELLO I BELIEVE I POSTED ON SITE BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE HAD and repaired FOR
ABOUT $100,000 rather than $600,000

go to http://www.pushedpawn.org/uscf1/uscf00001s.html

Larry I know you and I can write but when we learn to read?

Hon. Rev. Andrew Zito Esq.
P.O.Box 1615
Altoona, Pa 16603

wrote in message
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POINT OF CLARIFICATION

Point of clarification: I was only responding to the question of how
the building was being built. -- Joel Channing

We are well aware that Mr. Channing was elected to the board after
the hideous decision to sell the building in New Windsor or the choice
of Cross-to-Bear that was pushed through by Beatriz Marinello. Alas,
his hands were tied.

I easily can obtain all brick buildings that can be made ready for about
$100,000 rather than the $600,000 projected but I guess a regular USCF
member is just good enough to get messed around with cause we are all
@#$%^&* right? Why is it that BRADY WAS ADDRESSED ON THIS ISSUE AAS WELL AS
SLOAN AND DID NOTHING? I SAID $100k not $600k all you crooks and
charletons!!!!

STOP ROBBING THE KIDS

Hon. Rev. Andrew Zito Esq.
P.O.Box 1615
Altoona, Pa 16603

BTW Mister Channing's expertise is in development of new construction which
is distinctively different from old construstion rehab sub-prime alternative
construction in that the financing and investment is distinctive as it is
unrepresentative of the population the average person drived second hand
vehicles and lives in older houses only a select few buy new cars or live in
new houses


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SUCH A BARGAIN!

Even though I might have preferred an all masonry structure, it
appears that the wood frame and brick veneer structure is pretty
typical
for the area. As long as it's maintained properly and checked for
termites regularly there's every reason to expect that the building
will last longer than any of us will. -- Joel Channing

So, then, the building in Crossville will be wood
with a brick "veneer." It will be about 40 to 45
percent the size of the structure in New Windsor. It
will cost more than the sale price of the structure in
New Windsor.

For this bargain, the Federation ends up in the
Cumberland Gap.

The termites? Here's betting that the building
will not be checked regularly for termites (an
accidental oversight by a relative of the local
architect) and there will be plenty of business down
the years for the local good ol' boys. That is also
one of the traditions in a place such as Crossville.

We should bring the USCF back to New Windsor so Bill Goichberg can keep
an eye on it. All the drugs, prostitution and crimes in Newburgh is
pale in comparision to Crossville, TN.

Sam Sloan