Another example of Sloan's legendary inability to research and report. I
guess I also missed one of his legendary retractions and apologies for the
screw up. No doubt, some chess database will now list this as an Evans
game.

Randy Bauer


wrote in message
oups.com...
A QUICK CORRECTION

Mr. Sloan thank you so very much for this terrific summary... -- Jude
Acers.

Welcome to this forum, Jude.

Black was Roy Ervin (not GM Evans) In this game cited by Sam
Sloan.

[Event "op"]
[Site "Lone Pine"]
[Date "1972.??.??"]
[White "Manetti, Pete"]
[Black "Evans, Larry Melvyn"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A94"]

Randy Bauer wrote:
Another example of Sloan's legendary inability to research and report. I
guess I also missed one of his legendary retractions and apologies for the
screw up.

Randy, as you know I am not often given to defending Sam Sloan, but
in this case the mistake is probably the database's, not his.

No doubt, some chess database will now list this as an Evans
game.

At least one already does. My copy of the ChessBase Mega Database
2005 gives the game as Manetti-Evans, not Manetti-Ervin.

"Taylor Kingston" wrote in message
oups.com...

Randy Bauer wrote:
Another example of Sloan's legendary inability to research and report. I
guess I also missed one of his legendary retractions and apologies for
the
screw up.

Randy, as you know I am not often given to defending Sam Sloan, but
in this case the mistake is probably the database's, not his.

Taylor,

It is nice of you to defend Sloan, but the fault is still his. He doesn't
attribute his knowledge that at the 1972 Lone Pine tournament Manetti "drew
grandmasters Denker and Evans" to the Chessbase Mega Database. By not
attributing the information, he leads the reader to believe that he knows
this fact personally. It is just another example of Sloan writing as if
something is fact first and checking later -- if he bothers to check at all.

Randy Bauer

Randy Bauer wrote:

"Taylor Kingston" wrote in message
oups.com...

Randy Bauer wrote:
Another example of Sloan's legendary inability to research and report. I
guess I also missed one of his legendary retractions and apologies for
the
screw up.

Randy, as you know I am not often given to defending Sam Sloan, but
in this case the mistake is probably the database's, not his.

Taylor,

It is nice of you to defend Sloan, but the fault is still his. He doesn't
attribute his knowledge that at the 1972 Lone Pine tournament Manetti "drew
grandmasters Denker and Evans" to the Chessbase Mega Database. By not
attributing the information, he leads the reader to believe that he knows
this fact personally. It is just another example of Sloan writing as if
something is fact first and checking later -- if he bothers to check at all.

Randy Bauer


Sam Sloan checking facts? That's an oxymoron!

Randy Bauer wrote:
It is nice of you to defend Sloan, but the fault is still his. He
doesn't attribute his knowledge that at the 1972 Lone Pine
tournament Manetti "drew grandmasters Denker and Evans" to the
Chessbase Mega Database. By not attributing the information, he
leads the reader to believe that he knows this fact personally.

So, er, if I tell you that the Battle of Hastings was fought in 1066,
without telling you which book I read it in, you assume that I know
this because I was there? Interesting.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Aquatic Laptop Peanut (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a roasted nut that you can put on your
lap but it lives in the sea!

You mean....you weren't there?


"David Richerby" wrote in message
...
Randy Bauer wrote:
It is nice of you to defend Sloan, but the fault is still his. He
doesn't attribute his knowledge that at the 1972 Lone Pine
tournament Manetti "drew grandmasters Denker and Evans" to the
Chessbase Mega Database. By not attributing the information, he
leads the reader to believe that he knows this fact personally.

So, er, if I tell you that the Battle of Hastings was fought in 1066,
without telling you which book I read it in, you assume that I know
this because I was there? Interesting.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Aquatic Laptop Peanut (TM): it's
like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a roasted nut that you can put on
your
lap but it lives in the sea!

John J. wrote:
"David Richerby" wrote:
Randy Bauer wrote:
By not attributing the information, he leads the reader to believe
that he knows this fact personally.

So, er, if I tell you that the Battle of Hastings was fought in 1066,
without telling you which book I read it in, you assume that I know
this because I was there? Interesting.

You mean....you weren't there?

No, I got hurt at Stamford Bridge so I had to sit that one out.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Fluorescent Umbrella (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ an umbrella but it'll hurt your eyes!

David Richerby wrote:
John J. wrote:
"David Richerby" wrote:
Randy Bauer wrote:
By not attributing the information, he leads the reader to believe
that he knows this fact personally.

So, er, if I tell you that the Battle of Hastings was fought in 1066,
without telling you which book I read it in, you assume that I know
this because I was there? Interesting.

You mean....you weren't there?

No, I got hurt at Stamford Bridge so I had to sit that one out.

Yeah, same thing happened to me at Thermopylae, so I missed out on
Salamis.

Taylor Kingston wrote:
David Richerby wrote:
John J. wrote:
"David Richerby" wrote:
So, er, if I tell you that the Battle of Hastings was fought in 1066,
without telling you which book I read it in, you assume that I know
this because I was there? Interesting.

You mean....you weren't there?

No, I got hurt at Stamford Bridge so I had to sit that one out.

Yeah, same thing happened to me at Thermopylae, so I missed out on
Salamis.

I'd always suspected you might be a little older than me.


Dave.



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www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ fine ceramic dish that's really hard
to use!

David Richerby wrote:
John J. wrote:
"David Richerby" wrote:
Randy Bauer wrote:
By not attributing the information, he leads the reader to believe
that he knows this fact personally.

So, er, if I tell you that the Battle of Hastings was fought in 1066,
without telling you which book I read it in, you assume that I know
this because I was there? Interesting.

You mean....you weren't there?

No, I got hurt at Stamford Bridge so I had to sit that one out.

Oh no, not another bloomin' Chelsea fan...

K


Dave.

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