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I have always enjoyed Larry Evans' column in CL.
I asked a few friends today "just to see". I was surprised that they all wanted it to stay. I was surprised because I know it can be a bit repetitive and hokey at times but every single person I asked said that it was the first thing they read and wanted it kept. Of course these people are not political in the slightest... I purposefully asked only those I knew did not read here and were not involved in USCF politics. Now if I were to poll another group consisting only of these types I suspect the results would be quite different. Duncan wrote in message oups.com... A POLITICAL CREATURE I seem to recall Randy Bauer saying that Larry Evans was a true man of chess. Now he is changing his tune and talks about eliminating writers from Chess Life who are eligible for Social Security. . The last thing in the world that the politicians and especially a political creature such as Randy Bauer wants is to ASK THE MEMBERS WHAT THEY WANT IN CHESS LIFE. They know GM Evans, GM Soltis and a couple of others would win hands down. Therefore, there will be no further surveys by these honchos. Randy Bauer figures, yes, Evans is very well liked and popular as a columnist, and there must be no polling. Joel Channing will tell us how how "excellent" Evans On Chess is and how wonderful it all happens to be, and that will be that. Dissent in Chess Life must be crushed. My sources say that FIDE has complained about the criticism of its corruption by Larry Evans. |
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:06:57 -0700, "Duncan Oxley" No@Thanks wrote:
I have always enjoyed Larry Evans' column in CL. I asked a few friends today "just to see". I was surprised that they all wanted it to stay. I was surprised because I know it can be a bit repetitive and hokey at times but every single person I asked said that it was the first thing they read and wanted it kept. Of course these people are not political in the slightest... I purposefully asked only those I knew did not read here and were not involved in USCF politics. Now if I were to poll another group consisting only of these types I suspect the results would be quite different. Duncan Years ago, a poll of the membership revealed opposition to switching from Descriptive to Algebraic notation. Didn't stop the bureaucrats from doing what they thought was good for us. |
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Duncan Oxley wrote: I have always enjoyed Larry Evans' column in CL. I asked a few friends today "just to see". I was surprised that they all wanted it to stay. I was surprised because I know it can be a bit repetitive and hokey at times but every single person I asked said that it was the first thing they read and wanted it kept. Of course these people are not political in the slightest... I purposefully asked only those I knew did not read here and were not involved in USCF politics. Now if I were to poll another group consisting only of these types I suspect the results would be quite different. Duncan I will admit that Evans column is one of the few things that I read every month although that may reflect the quality of the rest of the magazine more than the quality of the column. It may also reflect the fact that I enjoy the question and answer format. Nevertheless, I think I would enjoy it even more if the columnist was someone with a closer connection to the current tournament scene. |
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*I have always enjoyed Larry Evans' column in CL. I asked a few friends
today "just to see". I was surprised that they all wanted it to stay. Of course these people are not political in the slightest.* (Duncan) My chess friends all feel the same way, that he is still at the top of his form. We all read his little gems posted each Monday at worldchessnetwork.com. To a person, the people at my club believe that political pressure was exerted on the new editor to remove the most famous living American player from Chess Life (except, of course, for Bobby Fischer). Most of us think it was the best thing in Chess Life, and we all enjoy the lively controversy found there that's missing from the rest of that house organ. As Parr would say, "And so it goes." |
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jr (posting-host=207.200.116.66):
wrote (10 Apr 2006 16:43:43 -0700): My chess friends all feel the same way, ... We all read ... _ To a person, the people at my club believe ... _ Most of us think ... we all enjoy ... _ "so far as anonymice are concerned, I discount their words unless they provide airtight evidence on a disputed point." - Larry Parr (26 Dec 2004 12:01:42 GMT) |
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THE FIRST THING THEY READ
I have always enjoyed Larry Evans' column in CL. I asked a few friends today "just to see". I was surprised that they all wanted it to stay. I was surprised because I know it can be a bit repetitive and hokey at times but every single person I asked said that it was the first thing they read and wanted it kept. Of course these people are not political in the slightest... I purposefully asked only those I knew did not read here and were not involved in USCF politics. Now if I were to poll another group consisting only of these types I suspect the results would be quite different. -- Duncan Oxley Right. I remember the old Chess Life surveys and the hosannahs from the sticks for Soltis and Evans. That is why the politicians call the survey a plebiscite. Those rats want to make sure that this time around,they can get rid of GM Larry Evans once and for all. He has been a thorn in their side for lo these many years. The new editor is just a pawn in this game. ABOVE ALL ELSE, NO SURVEY! |
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Randy Bauer wrote: As Wayne most likely recalls, I have written on numerous occasions about the need to do a better job of learning what members want in service from the USCF. I spoke about it while a member of the Executive Board at several Board meetings as well. I still believe the financial investment to do focus groups and other survey methods would be worthwhile. That said, I think every editor should have some latitude to make changes. Today's Chess Life isn't all that different from when I first started receiving it 30-plus years ago. The chess world has changed a lot since then, and maybe it's time for Chess Life to do so as well. Randy Bauer Randy, Yes I do recall your avocation for the need to do a better job of learning what members want in service from the USCF. I agree with you that the financial investment to do focus groups and other survey methods would be worthwhile. I continue to await with anticipation the surveying of what our members really want from the USCF. If real change is what is wanted, rather than just a personalized reshuffling by the current USCF leadership, we will also look forward to a new Chess Life chock full of articles by world renowned Grandmasters and US Champions who are part of the current scene. Regards, Wayne Praeder |
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WPraeder wrote: Randy Bauer wrote: As Wayne most likely recalls, I have written on numerous occasions about the need to do a better job of learning what members want in service from the USCF. I spoke about it while a member of the Executive Board at several Board meetings as well. I still believe the financial investment to do focus groups and other survey methods would be worthwhile. That said, I think every editor should have some latitude to make changes. Today's Chess Life isn't all that different from when I first started receiving it 30-plus years ago. The chess world has changed a lot since then, and maybe it's time for Chess Life to do so as well. Randy Bauer Randy, Yes I do recall your avocation for the need to do a better job of learning what members want in service from the USCF. I agree with you that the financial investment to do focus groups and other survey methods would be worthwhile. I continue to await with anticipation the surveying of what our members really want from the USCF. If real change is what is wanted, rather than just a personalized reshuffling by the current USCF leadership, we will also look forward to a new Chess Life chock full of articles by world renowned Grandmasters and US Champions who are part of the current scene. (Ignoring Praeder's knee-jerk assumption that all changes to Chess Life are politically motivated.) How about including articles by leading chess historians? Or leading problemists and correspondence players? |
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wrote in message
oups.com... Yeah, because you are not a USCF member and have no voice in this matter. Same with the rest of you who are not USCF members. So, Chess Freak, your solution is to make everyone on this newsgroup be quiet and pay your US Chess Federation money to participate in a newsgroup moderated by the Chess Nazi Mike Nolan? What in the world are you talking about? All I'm saying is that if you are not a member of the USCF you have no right participating in a poll of the readers of Chess Life to see what columns are to be featured. This has nothing to do with nationalism, you moron. I think you represent the world view of the American Cowboy: Bully everyone into submission to the American way (we have no voice because we do not pay your political leaders money), extort money in the form of USCF dues for participating in a "moderated discussion", and threaten to kill anyone who disagrees with the USCF? Huh? Do you realize how stupid you sound? Chess Freak, I would like to meet you. One day you might get to meet somebody differet from you and learn something about this world in which you live. I've already met you. I'm a former Texas State amateur chess champion back when you lived in Texas. I thought you were an idiot back then too. Marcus Roberts |
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wrote Right. I remember the old Chess Life surveys and the hosannahs from the sticks for Soltis and Evans. That is why the politicians call the survey a plebiscite. Those rats want to make sure that this time around,they can get rid of GM Larry Evans once and for all. He has been a thorn in their side for lo these many years. The new editor is just a pawn in this game. ABOVE ALL ELSE, NO SURVEY! I think if Chess Life wants to drop Evans then the ICC should pick him up. I bet that would generate a lot of traffic to the ICC homepage. Duncan |
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