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Larry Parr wrote (8 May 2006 19:41:14 -0700):
our lad from Indiana attacked Larry Evans for being part of a conspiracy to "brainwash" the American public into accepting Fischer's conditions against Karpov in 1975 as fair when exactly the opposite was true. GM Evans was virtually the only columnist in Chess Life who branded Fischer's conditions as unfair. Needless to say, Mr. Kennedy is silent about that boo-boo. _ Here is the result of my own attempt to track down Greg Kennedy's description of what happened: _ "In the beginning (dejavu), Evans was critical of Bobby for his unfair "demands." In fact, he was almost alone in this, amidst a swarm of mindless Fischer fanatics who dominated the pages of Chess Life at that time with their drivel, thanks largely to editorial bias. _ Over time, Larry has shifted from his original, well-reasoned position, toward a cold war, herd mentality position which takes the heavy blame off the weary, unpadded shoulders of -- no, not Atlas -- but Bobby Fischer, and procedes to drop the load onto the always- handy target of FIDE and its minions. How unoriginal." - Greg Kennedy (Sun, 26 May 2002 05:51:08 GMT) _ I believe that, in the second paragraph, Greg Kennedy had in mind what GM Evans wrote for the March 1986 issue of Chess Life: _ "[Karpov] will go down in history as the man who avoided a match with Bobby Fischer and then eluded him for the next ten years. ... [Karpov] did all in his power to drive an unstable American genius out of chess." |
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A CONSPIRACY SO VAST
Here is what I wrote in rec.games.chess.politics on May 7, 1999: THE KENNEDY LEGACY It is obvious that there was a vast conspiracy in the press which brainwashed nearly everyone in the USA into supporting Fischer, regardless of the true facts. -- Greg Kennedy in a posting of February 7 In a posting of May 6, Greg Kennedy once again accuses this writer -- without providing a single specific citation -- of attacking his person. Alas, he has inverted truth. As a matter of pure punctilio, it is always important to nail down lies diametrically opposite the truth. Mr. Kennedy can adduce no instances of myself animadverting toward his person because I have relentlessly attacked only his arguments. However, in a posting of March 16, Mr. Kennedy wholeheartedly embraced infantile name-calling. He spewed out the following: "This is why you are known a [sic] Liarry, Larry the Liar, a dirty fellow, and so on." He also called me a moron. Fine. His name-calling leaves me unmoved. I do, however, object to his attributing his scummy practices to this writer. In a posting of February 7, Greg Kennedy claimed that a "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy "in the press" brainwashed "nearly everyone" in the United States. So "vast" and "obvious" was this conspiracy that tens of millions of Americans -- "nearly everyone" -- had their minds, scrubbed, sluiced and spruced. Mr. Kennedy also stated that GM Larry Evans -- practically the sole voice in Chess Life objecting to Fischer's match conditions vs. Karpov in 1975 -- eventually "succumbed" to the conspiracy. Yet to this day I have never read a word by GM Evans suggesting that Fischer's conditions were fair. And GM Yasser Seirawan, the other named conspirator, was only 15 years old in 1975! So far, so bad. But worse was to come. On February 9 Mr. Kennedy wrote that GM Evans was one of the key conspirators. If on February 7 Mr. Kennedy had GM Evans marked down as a victim, he transmogrified him into a leading conspirator on February 9. Since Mr. Kennedy introduced the word "moron" two months ago, I think it fair once again -- and again -- to list our opposing positions. Readers can judge for themselves the moron's identity: 1. Mr. Kennedy claims that there was a "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy on behalf of Robert Fischer and his title desiderata. Larry Parr claims there was no "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy. 2. Mr. Kennedy claims that the "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy occurred "in the press." Mr. Parr claims that only a low-circulation magazine named Chess Life had an editorial position that supported Fischer's match conditions in 1975. Inside Chess didn't even exist until 1988 and therefore could not have been part of the 1975 conspiracy. 3. Mr. Kennedy claims that the "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy "brainwashed nearly everyone in the USA." Mr. Parr claims that Chess Life never reached "nearly everyone" in the United States. Mr. Parr further claims that there is no evidence whatsoever to indicate mass brainwashing. 4. Mr. Kennedy claims that the brainwashing was conducted "in the press." Mr. Parr claims that beyond Chess Life, the mainstream press engaged in no such brainwashing. Mr. Parr further claims that if one were to search old issues of The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times and so on, one would find very limited coverage (if any) of Fischer's match conditions. 5. Mr. Kennedy claims that the "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy succeeded in its brainwashing task in favor of Fischer's match conditions. Mr. Parr sees no evidence of any kind to support this view. None. Where, for example, are the opinion polls of people who believe that these conditions were fair? 6. Mr. Parr argues that Mr. Kennedy's supposed "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy would require a headquarters and secretariat. Mr. Kennedy cannot provide the location of the supposed headquarters and secretariat of his "OBVIOUS" [my emphasis] "vast conspiracy." 7. Mr. Parr believes that Mr. Kennedy's posited "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy would require personnel. Mr. Kennedy, who asserts that the conspiracy is indeed "vast" and "obvious," cannot provide names of the bureaucratic personnel. 8. Mr. Parr states that Mr. Kennedy's purported "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy would require funding. Mr. Kennedy, who avers that the conspiracy is indeed "vast" and "OBVIOUS" [my emphasis], cannot provide funding details or even the names of financial backers and donors. 9. Mr. Parr notes that past conspiracies in history, which have been vast, did not necessarily yield internal documentary substantiation (e.g., the role of the Jacobins in the burning of the chateaux), but he knows of no conspiracy in history that was both "vast" and "OBVIOUS" [my emphasis] which did not leave a lot of internal paper around. For example, readers are invited to peruse old, bound issues of Inprekorr, the official journal of the Comintern from 1919 to 1943. All kinds of internal documents were routinely published because the conspiracy to rule the world was both vast and obvious. Mr. Kennedy cannot provide internal documentation showing the existence of his posited "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy. 10. Mr. Kennedy refers to a group called "Kalme think-alikes" who succeeded in brainwashing GM Larry Evans and others. Mr. Parr wants Mr. Kennedy to name the numerous "think-alikes" who peopled his "VAST" [my emphasis] and "obvious" conspiracy. 11. Mr. Kennedy states on February 7, that GM Larry Evans "succumbed" to his posited "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy, and he writes on February 9, that GM Evans was one of the conspirators. Mr. Parr states that what started out as an inconsistent and weakminded smear may be plausibly called a lie in the absence of an amende honorable. (Mr. Kennedy cannot explain this self-contradictory smear, except to repeat -- as he does on May 6 -- that he has already addressed the issue. That's his ploy.) 12. Mr. Parr argues that Mr. Kennedy should apologize unreservedly for insulting the readers of this forum with such a pathetic, self- contradictory smear. Mr. Kennedy refuses to make the amende honorable. 13. Mr. Kennedy states without qualification that a "vast" and "obvious" conspiracy exists. This writer asserts that no such conspiracy ever existed, IF ONLY BECAUSE WE CHESS PEOPLE HAVE NEVER RATED THE KIND OF MEDIA ATTENTION NECESSARY to brainwash "nearly everyone" in the United States. 14. Both Mr. Kennedy and this writer agree completely on one point: either Mr. Kennedy's views or this writer's views on the conspiracy issue are moronic. The above 14 points encapsulate our positions. I believe that Mr. Kennedy's arguments -- if not the gent himself -- are truly moronic. Further, a good case can clearly be made that Mr. Kennedy has raised his smear against GMs Evans and Seirawan from a sloppy failure to reread his previous posts before contradicting himself to the status of a bright, shining lie. -- Larry Parr |
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TYPICAL DISHONESTY
I believe that, in the second paragraph, Greg Kennedy had in mind what GM Evans wrote for the March 1986 issue of Chess Life: -- Louis Blair "[Karpov] will go down in history as the man who avoided a match with Bobby Fischer and then eluded him for the next ten years. ... [Karpov] did all in his power to drive an unstable American genius out of chess."- A typical dishonest posting from the parser who finds the quotations that he wishes to find and takes them out of context. |
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Louis Blair wrote:
"GM Evans wrote for the March 1986 issue of Chess Life:" VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV [Karpov] will go down in history as the man who avoided a match with Bobby Fischer and then eluded him for the next ten years. ... [Karpov] did all in his power to drive an unstable American genius out of chess. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Apparently, by 1986 Larry Evans had already begun to lose his grip on reality. Years earlier, a sharper-minded Evans noted that Bobby Fischer himself, or his stubborness rather, was to blame for his early retirement. Karpov became a handy scapegoat as he happenned to be the next-best player -- and conveniently, a Russian. Larry Parr wrote: "GM Evans was virtually the only columnist in Chess Life who branded Fischer's conditions as unfair." Come now: just how many "columnists" did Chess Life have back then? I think it should be possible to state with precision whether or not Evans was the only one to call Fischer's conditions unfair. Unfortunately, this singular focus on CL leaves us in the dark as to how the international press treated this issue. -- help bot |
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I wrote (8 May 2006 21:38:51 -0700):
"Over time, Larry has shifted from his original, well-reasoned position, toward a cold war, herd mentality position which takes the heavy blame off the weary, unpadded shoulders of -- no, not Atlas -- but Bobby Fischer, and procedes to drop the load onto the always- handy target of FIDE and its minions. How unoriginal." - Greg Kennedy (Sun, 26 May 2002 05:51:08 GMT) _ I believe that, in the second paragraph, Greg Kennedy had in mind what GM Evans wrote for the March 1986 issue of Chess Life: _ "[Karpov] will go down in history as the man who avoided a match with Bobby Fischer and then eluded him for the next ten years. ... [Karpov] did all in his power to drive an unstable American genius out of chess." _ Larry Parr wrote (8 May 2006 21:58:17 -0700): A typical dishonest posting from the parser who finds the quotations that he wishes to find ... _ I would be interested to here any alternative theory that Larry Parr may have about what Greg Kennedy had in mind on Sun, 26 May 2002 05:51:08 GMT. Over the next few weeks, Greg Kennedy made such comments as these, specifically about the March 1986 quote. _ "clearly influenced by a cold war attitude which fails to see things objectively. ... The total lapse of reason, replaced by a mixed-up screenplay in which Karpov plays the villain, Fischer and Kaspy are the heroes, and poor, pathetic Fischer is 'driven out' of chess by external causes." - Greg Kennedy (Wed, 05 Jun 2002 02:58:52 GMT) _ "It seems to me that Larry Evans and Larry Parr would both LIKE for history to remember Karpov in this manner -- for history to lay the blame on the shoulders of Karpov and FIDE, rather than Bobby, himself." - Greg Kennedy (Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:15:55 GMT) _ Larry Parr wrote (8 May 2006 21:58:17 -0700): [the parser] takes [the quotations] out of context. _ Larry Parr, of course, identifies nothing specific about the context that, in his opinion, needs to be mentioned. |
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Larry Parr posted:
"I believe that, in the second paragraph, Greg Kennedy had in mind what GM Evans wrote for the March 1986 issue of Chess Life: -- Louis Blair" "[Karpov] will go down in history as the man who avoided a match with Bobby Fischer and then eluded him for the next ten years. ... [Karpov] did all in his power to drive an unstable American genius out of chess." -- Are you sure this is a quote of Larry Evans? As the word "avoided" is spelled correctly, I think this may have actually been a quotation of Larry Parr instead. -- help bot |
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HE COULDA BEEN A CONTENDAH
For the record, Mr. Kennedy (our Help Bot) has a record of forgetting what he writes one day and then posting shortly thereafter an account that utterly contradicts what he already wrote. I noted, for example, that he wrote on February 7, 1999 that Larry Evans was a victim of a conspiracy that brainwashed tens of millions of Americans. Two days later, he has GM Evans as one of the key conspirators! Later Mr. Kennedy spoke of how he was bored to sleep by what this author wrote re the Winter affair. Forgetting this putdown, he wrote shortly thereafter that he stayed up the whole night reading the account. Evidence of a heroic Indiana mind? A man who can stay up all night reading what puts him to sleep? Get thee hither, anodynes. Mr. Kennedy is best known on this forum for blaming his failure to become a grandmaster on the cornstalks of Indiana. IF, IF, IF he had but lived elsewhere, he coulda been a contendah. He, too, could play chess with the great and discuss Xenophon with the Messrs. Parr and Keene but for a deprived background of reading comic books during the 1960s. The idea here is that whereas he might have a soulmate in a Louie Blair, he cannot have one in a Parr or Keene or Evans. To avoid misunderstanding, we do not believe a youth among ears of corn necessarily affects intellectual performance between the ears of humans later in life. The truth is that there are large libraries in Indiana, which can be said about every state in the American Union, including probably even Alaska. There are huge bookstores in which the accumulated learning of the ages can be had for a comparative song. Used bookstores often have classics put among the 10-cent volumes left outside during the night to be purchased on the honor system. No, sirree. Mr. Kennedy has no one to blame but himself. We understand that the man will spend the rest of his life hating grandmasters and his intellectual betters because, as he himself so often averred, he coulda been a contendah. |
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I wrote (8 May 2006 21:38:51 -0700):
"Over time, Larry has shifted from his original, well-reasoned position, toward a cold war, herd mentality position which takes the heavy blame off the weary, unpadded shoulders of -- no, not Atlas -- but Bobby Fischer, and procedes to drop the load onto the always- handy target of FIDE and its minions. How unoriginal." - Greg Kennedy (Sun, 26 May 2002 05:51:08 GMT) _ I believe that, in the second paragraph, Greg Kennedy had in mind what GM Evans wrote for the March 1986 issue of Chess Life: _ "[Karpov] will go down in history as the man who avoided a match with Bobby Fischer and then eluded him for the next ten years. ... [Karpov] did all in his power to drive an unstable American genius out of chess." _ Larry Parr wrote (8 May 2006 21:58:17 -0700): A typical dishonest posting from the parser who finds the quotations that he wishes to find ... _ I would be interested to hear any alternative theory that Larry Parr may have about what Greg Kennedy had in mind on Sun, 26 May 2002 05:51:08 GMT. Over the next few weeks, Greg Kennedy made such comments as these, specifically about the March 1986 quote. _ "clearly influenced by a cold war attitude which fails to see things objectively. ... The total lapse of reason, replaced by a mixed-up screenplay in which Karpov plays the villain, Fischer and Kaspy are the heroes, and poor, pathetic Fischer is 'driven out' of chess by external causes." - Greg Kennedy (Wed, 05 Jun 2002 02:58:52 GMT) _ "It seems to me that Larry Evans and Larry Parr would both LIKE for history to remember Karpov in this manner -- for history to lay the blame on the shoulders of Karpov and FIDE, rather than Bobby, himself." - Greg Kennedy (Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:15:55 GMT) _ Larry Parr wrote (8 May 2006 21:58:17 -0700): [the parser] takes [the quotations] out of context. _ Larry Parr, of course, identifies nothing specific about the context that, in his opinion, needs to be mentioned. |
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After nearly forty years of carefully scrutinizing each and every post by the Blairbot, hoping beyond hope to find a flaw, a tiny weakness of some sort which I can later recount, over and over until he "apologises", I have finally done it; I have found a mistake, a blunder, a horrible misstep by the Nutty Professor! At this very moment, I am forwarding copies to Larry Parr, Ray Keene, and the others (yes, ALL 912 of them) who have been caught with their pants down and battered to death for their countless, careless misstatements of facts over the years, for which they have been literally *tortured* right here on the net by Louis Blair -- in public, even! Now we can finally get even; we can all "ask" Mr. Blair why he made the following horrible mistake, and I have nothing less than a *direct quote* to prove my case! Here it is -- the blunder we have all been waiting for, these many years: Larry Parr attacks: "A typical dishonest posting from the parser[,] who finds the quotations that he wishes to find...". Louis Blair responds: "I would be interested to *here* any alternative theory that Larry Parr may have...". There you have it -- the horrible mistake I promised! That's right -- Louis Blair is human, just like the rest of us. And while his logic and reason may well be beyond reproach, his spelling is akin to a gaping hole on e5, just begging for an enemy Knight to hop in. He's clearly just not a strong enough speller, as I'm sure Ray Keene will attest. Now posters like Ray Keene and Larry Parr -- who have so often been publicly humiliated by Mr. Blair in the past -- can *finally* take their revenge; they can quote and re-quote and re-re-quote this spelling error until doomsday. Sweet revenge -- a dish best served cold! -- help bot |
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HEAR! HEAR!
"I would be interested to *here* any alternative theory that Larry Parr may have..." -- Louis Blair There you have it -- the horrible mistake I promised! That's right -- Louis Blair is human, just like the rest of us. And while his logic and reason may well be beyond reproach, his spelling is akin to a gaping hole on e5, just begging for an enemy Knight to hop in. He's clearly just not a strong enough speller, as I'm sure Ray Keene will attest. Now posters like Ray Keene and Larry Parr -- who have so often been publicly humiliated by Mr. Blair in the past -- can *finally* take their revenge; they can quote and re-quote and re-re-quote this spelling error until doomsday. Sweet revenge -- a dish best served cold! -- Help Bot Dear Greg Kennedy, Why must you always fidget like a Harlequin suffering from St. Vitus Dance? Louie Blair will be trying to do his best for you in the coming several days, but you are not helping at all. You doth protest too much, and you only cause people to recollect Louie's lapses and lacunae. You embarrass the Blairbot a mite. Indeed, "broadly," as Louie so weakmindedly inserted the word in one of his recent attempts to appear more sapient than simian. |
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