No AMENDE HONORABLE in sight



wrote in message oups.com...

We await his explanation about how he uttered no

We still await liarry parr's apology and recanting of his false statements
regarding Louis Blair, Larry Tapper, and the Innes pledge.

But in a way I'm delighted that parr has not ... because by failing to make
good, he (and jr) continually demonstate to us what a dishornorable
bunch the two liarries are. His (their) refusal to admit their wrongdoings
bring down their character a whole lot better than any of his detractors can
ever hope to accomplish.


falsehoods or attempted to mislead when he praised
himself -- for Pete's sake! -- under the names of
Paulie Graf and Xylothist.


Does liarry parr have any comment about liarry evans, in the
guise as jr, praising himself?

Is this continual ranting about Kingston another of parr's distractions
from what is truly important to this newsgroup?

g4 wrote:
Rob wrote:
I call for the Chess Fachists to simply begin their own group and leave
the rest of us to think and breath free, unimcumbered under the iron fists
of their ridicule and persicutions for our opinions and ideas.


Hey Robtroll:

Thank you g4 for giving a fine demonstration of what a chess facist
does by your example. You are a sterling credit to the human race.

Do you really want the chess fascists, represented by the two liarries, parr
and evans, to leave this forum? Those are the persons who brook no dissent
from their point of view. Why, to someone like liarry parr, a disagreement
within his clique is chewing meat 30 times rather than 32. As for us
"ratpackers", you must have noticed how parr highlights our "debating" an
issue amongst ourselves or failing to tow the line on the Innes pledge. That's good.
We "ratpackers" are not of one mind ... not all cut from the same cloth. We can
have varying opinions without resorting to name calling.

And as for you calling on people who seem to disagree with you to leave
thgis newsgroup, YOU Robtroll have become the very thing you so
despise.

It is you who have demonstrated intolerance by your post. Makes one
wonder if you and Mr. Brennen aren't dopplegangers.



I dare say they know who they are and should they go unnamed? One is
the initiator of the "Pledge" against Mr. Inness.


Oh look at this - Robtroll pretends to support Innes, yet cannot even
spell his name correctly! A whole 5 letters ... wow, that must be tough!

Typos happen. This isn't an important enough forum to bother with
corrections.

"Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

It is you who have demonstrated intolerance by your post. Makes one
wonder if you and Mr. Brennen aren't dopplegangers.

You only 'wonder' ?!

Its irrisistable to propagandise the Pledge, but as Sri-Parr has written,
'when/how will they sneak back?'


I dare say they know who they are and should they go unnamed? One is
the initiator of the "Pledge" against Mr. Inness.


Oh look at this - Robtroll pretends to support Innes, yet cannot even
spell his name correctly! A whole 5 letters ... wow, that must be tough!

Typos happen. This isn't an important enough forum to bother with
corrections.

Alec Guinness was always complaining that no one could spell his name.

Cordially, Philip Hamish

Taylor Kingston wrote:
Rob wrote:
I call for the Chess Fachists to simply begin their own group and leave
the rest of us to think and breath free, unimcumbered under the iron fists
of their ridicule and persicutions for our opinions and ideas.

Rob, one of the distinguishing characteristics of fascism is that
under it, the publication of factual truth is suppressed in favor of
propaganda. Lies, half-truths, fabrications and slanders that serve the
interest of the ruling party are advanced at the expense of the
public's right to factual information.
Another typical fascist ploy is that normal definitions are stood on
their heads, e.g. "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is
strength" (Orwell). The way you use such terms as "free," "persicution"
[sic] and "iron fist" above indicates you may unwittingly be falling
into that manner of speech, something I'm sure you will want to avoid.


I dare say they know who they are and should they go unnamed? One is
the initiator of the "Pledge" against Mr. Inness.

Seriously, Rob, ask yourself: who here acts more like a fascist-style
propaganda ministry: Innes, Parr, Sloan et al, or those who try here to
counter their habitual falsehoods?

My feeling about this is that generally speaking, chessplayers make
terrible fascists, because they tend to be individualistic and
anti-authoritarian. This goes for Parr and Sloan, certainly, as well as
our alleged cabal of 'ratpackers'.

Anyway, it's hard to see what the point is of Rob's latest
instantiation of Godwin's Law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

It's not as if anyone is advocating actually banning Phil Innes from
the group, let alone exterminating the guy. And if unpleasant,
repetitive badgering of a poster who gets one's goat looks like fascism
to Rob, we'd certainly have to put Larry Parr's 200+ posts about "NMNot
Kingston" in that category.

LT

Larry Tapper wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:
Rob wrote:
I call for the Chess Fachists to simply begin their own group and leave
the rest of us to think and breath free, unimcumbered under the iron fists
of their ridicule and persicutions for our opinions and ideas.

Rob, one of the distinguishing characteristics of fascism is that
under it, the publication of factual truth is suppressed in favor of
propaganda. Lies, half-truths, fabrications and slanders that serve the
interest of the ruling party are advanced at the expense of the
public's right to factual information.
Another typical fascist ploy is that normal definitions are stood on
their heads, e.g. "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is
strength" (Orwell). The way you use such terms as "free," "persicution"
[sic] and "iron fist" above indicates you may unwittingly be falling
into that manner of speech, something I'm sure you will want to avoid.


I dare say they know who they are and should they go unnamed? One is
the initiator of the "Pledge" against Mr. Inness.

Seriously, Rob, ask yourself: who here acts more like a fascist-style
propaganda ministry: Innes, Parr, Sloan et al, or those who try here to
counter their habitual falsehoods?

My feeling about this is that generally speaking, chessplayers make
terrible fascists, because they tend to be individualistic and
anti-authoritarian. This goes for Parr and Sloan, certainly, as well as
our alleged cabal of 'ratpackers'.

Anyway, it's hard to see what the point is of Rob's latest
instantiation of Godwin's Law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

"Godwin's Law" -- clever, insightful, and very apt here. I had not
heard of it until now.

It's not as if anyone is advocating actually banning Phil Innes from
the group, let alone exterminating the guy. And if unpleasant,
repetitive badgering of a poster who gets one's goat looks like fascism
to Rob, we'd certainly have to put Larry Parr's 200+ posts about "NMNot
Kingston" in that category.

LT

Larry Tapper wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:
Rob wrote:
I call for the Chess Fachists to simply begin their own group and leave
the rest of us to think and breath free, unimcumbered under the iron fists
of their ridicule and persicutions for our opinions and ideas.

Rob, one of the distinguishing characteristics of fascism is that
under it, the publication of factual truth is suppressed in favor of
propaganda. Lies, half-truths, fabrications and slanders that serve the
interest of the ruling party are advanced at the expense of the
public's right to factual information.
Another typical fascist ploy is that normal definitions are stood on
their heads, e.g. "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is
strength" (Orwell). The way you use such terms as "free," "persicution"
[sic] and "iron fist" above indicates you may unwittingly be falling
into that manner of speech, something I'm sure you will want to avoid.


I dare say they know who they are and should they go unnamed? One is
the initiator of the "Pledge" against Mr. Inness.

Seriously, Rob, ask yourself: who here acts more like a fascist-style
propaganda ministry: Innes, Parr, Sloan et al, or those who try here to
counter their habitual falsehoods?

My feeling about this is that generally speaking, chessplayers make
terrible fascists, because they tend to be individualistic and
anti-authoritarian. This goes for Parr and Sloan, certainly, as well as
our alleged cabal of 'ratpackers'.


Anyway, it's hard to see what the point is of Rob's latest
instantiation of Godwin's Law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Yes. I am aware of Godwin's Law. A clever mind might acutally use
Godwin's law as attempt to hide their own inclinations towards facist
behaivor. The more direct attitude is when someone attempts to silence
someone or to drive them from the group via personal attacks. Susan
Polgar stopped posting to this group due to just such attacks.

We can disagree. We can discuss. We can still remain professional and
cordial as well. The incessant name calling does nothing to
promote,advance or elevate chess in any way.

Rob

It's not as if anyone is advocating actually banning Phil Innes from
the group, let alone exterminating the guy. And if unpleasant,
repetitive badgering of a poster who gets one's goat looks like fascism
to Rob, we'd certainly have to put Larry Parr's 200+ posts about "NMNot
Kingston" in that category.

LT

Rob wrote:
Larry Tapper wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:
Rob wrote:
I call for the Chess Fachists to simply begin their own group and leave
the rest of us to think and breath free, unimcumbered under the iron fists
of their ridicule and persicutions for our opinions and ideas.

Rob, one of the distinguishing characteristics of fascism is that
under it, the publication of factual truth is suppressed in favor of
propaganda. Lies, half-truths, fabrications and slanders that serve the
interest of the ruling party are advanced at the expense of the
public's right to factual information.
Another typical fascist ploy is that normal definitions are stood on
their heads, e.g. "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is
strength" (Orwell). The way you use such terms as "free," "persicution"
[sic] and "iron fist" above indicates you may unwittingly be falling
into that manner of speech, something I'm sure you will want to avoid.


I dare say they know who they are and should they go unnamed? One is
the initiator of the "Pledge" against Mr. Inness.

Seriously, Rob, ask yourself: who here acts more like a fascist-style
propaganda ministry: Innes, Parr, Sloan et al, or those who try here to
counter their habitual falsehoods?

My feeling about this is that generally speaking, chessplayers make
terrible fascists, because they tend to be individualistic and
anti-authoritarian. This goes for Parr and Sloan, certainly, as well as
our alleged cabal of 'ratpackers'.


Anyway, it's hard to see what the point is of Rob's latest
instantiation of Godwin's Law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Yes. I am aware of Godwin's Law. A clever mind might acutally use
Godwin's law as attempt to hide their own inclinations towards facist
behaivor.

Rob,

Give us a couple of specific examples of what you consider to be
"fascist behavior" and then we'll have some idea of what you're talking
about, perhaps.

The question also arises whether accusing other posters of fascist
tendencies counts as acceptable behavior according to your own exalted
standards. Why is that not an example of "name calling", which you say
you deplore?

Larry T.

The more direct attitude is when someone attempts to silence
someone or to drive them from the group via personal attacks. Susan
Polgar stopped posting to this group due to just such attacks.

We can disagree. We can discuss. We can still remain professional and
cordial as well. The incessant name calling does nothing to
promote,advance or elevate chess in any way.

Rob

It's not as if anyone is advocating actually banning Phil Innes from
the group, let alone exterminating the guy. And if unpleasant,
repetitive badgering of a poster who gets one's goat looks like fascism
to Rob, we'd certainly have to put Larry Parr's 200+ posts about "NMNot
Kingston" in that category.

LT

Rob wrote (21 Sep 2006 08:51:49 -0700):

7 ... when someone attempts to silence someone or to drive
7 them from the group via personal attacks. ...

_
"... I am content to follow the threads of subjects raised
by Mr. Blair until their logical conclusion. Why not? The
search for rgcp verity is seldom pretty and may be
compared with making sausage. The process sickens
but the final product -- that sublime moment when The
Historian or such like slinks away and is then summoned
back by an angry Hopper -- enthralls. Though, admittedly,
in a sickening way. ..." - Larry Parr (05 Feb 2003
14:22:59 GMT)

Larry Tapper wrote:
Rob wrote:
Larry Tapper wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:
Rob wrote:
I call for the Chess Fachists to simply begin their own group and leave
the rest of us to think and breath free, unimcumbered under the iron fists
of their ridicule and persicutions for our opinions and ideas.

Rob, one of the distinguishing characteristics of fascism is that
under it, the publication of factual truth is suppressed in favor of
propaganda. Lies, half-truths, fabrications and slanders that serve the
interest of the ruling party are advanced at the expense of the
public's right to factual information.
Another typical fascist ploy is that normal definitions are stood on
their heads, e.g. "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is
strength" (Orwell). The way you use such terms as "free," "persicution"
[sic] and "iron fist" above indicates you may unwittingly be falling
into that manner of speech, something I'm sure you will want to avoid.


I dare say they know who they are and should they go unnamed? One is
the initiator of the "Pledge" against Mr. Inness.

Seriously, Rob, ask yourself: who here acts more like a fascist-style
propaganda ministry: Innes, Parr, Sloan et al, or those who try here to
counter their habitual falsehoods?

My feeling about this is that generally speaking, chessplayers make
terrible fascists, because they tend to be individualistic and
anti-authoritarian. This goes for Parr and Sloan, certainly, as well as
our alleged cabal of 'ratpackers'.


Anyway, it's hard to see what the point is of Rob's latest
instantiation of Godwin's Law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Yes. I am aware of Godwin's Law. A clever mind might acutally use
Godwin's law as attempt to hide their own inclinations towards facist
behaivor.

Rob,

Give us a couple of specific examples of what you consider to be
"fascist behavior" and then we'll have some idea of what you're talking
about, perhaps.

The question also arises whether accusing other posters of fascist
tendencies counts as acceptable behavior according to your own exalted
standards. Why is that not an example of "name calling", which you say
you deplore?

Larry T.

The more direct attitude is when someone attempts to silence
someone or to drive them from the group via personal attacks. Susan
Polgar stopped posting to this group due to just such attacks.

We can disagree. We can discuss. We can still remain professional and
cordial as well. The incessant name calling does nothing to
promote,advance or elevate chess in any way.

Rob

It's not as if anyone is advocating actually banning Phil Innes from
the group, let alone exterminating the guy. And if unpleasant,
repetitive badgering of a poster who gets one's goat looks like fascism
to Rob, we'd certainly have to put Larry Parr's 200+ posts about "NMNot
Kingston" in that category.

LT

Larry,
If I were to name names and make a list I could be considered guilty of
just that. I just want people to look at the words they write and look
into their hearts before they hit "send". Everyone should have a right
to freely and honestly express themselves without being subjected to
continued personal attacks and reprisals.

Cannot everyone just have a gentlemans agreement not to engage in those
actions that would limit rather than promote a free and open exchange
of ideas?

Rob

_
"... nothing [Mr. Kennedy] has written for at least six months
can match my efforts at pettiness over the last two months.
_
My excuse is that I frequently lapse into senescent cackling
when responding to Mr. Blair. I am having good, dirty,
innocent fun which has to be the ultimate purpose of posting
on rgcp." - Larry Parr (2003-01-13 10:25:58 PST)