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Old October 29th 06, 08:30 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
John Evans
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I just put up four of my games on my web site. If you guys have time can you
look at this very small sample and tell me what you think.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewer/chess_viewer.html


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Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/


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Old October 30th 06, 08:56 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Ron
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In article ,
"John Evans" wrote:

I just put up four of my games on my web site. If you guys have time can you
look at this very small sample and tell me what you think.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewer/chess_viewer.html


One thing I noticed (although personally, I'd much prefer it if you
pasted PGN to a post rather than used the java player - it'd make it
easier for me to go over your games and explore variations) is that your
opening play is very passive. You're playing by rote.

In game one:

1. e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Nc3 d6 (Nf6 is stronger) 5.h3? a6? (Bb5
isn't a meaningful threat, and if he wants to try to win the bishop via
Na5, you don't mind) 6.d3 h6? (the pin is nothing to be afraid of
because you haven't castled yet) 7.0-0 Nf6 8.a3? 0-0 (worth considering
was delaying castling and attacking on the kingside with ...g5 and g4.)

In game two:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0?! (c3, b4, or d4 are all better moves
by far) d6 5.d3 h6? 6.a3? (again, you're defending against nonexistent
threats) Be6 7.Bb5?!

In game 3:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3?! very unambitious. Both 4.Bg4 and
4.d4 present black with real challenges.

And game four just reveals your lack of knowledge of basic 1.d4 d5
opening fundamentals.

If you can find a copy, I think you'll definitely benefit from reading
Reti's "Master's of the Chessboard." You need to spend a few weeks
playing through annotated master games in the giuoco piano, to learn how
it can be a potent attacking weapon.

You play very rotely, constantly afraid of your opponents moves even
though they aren't really that dangerous. You need to play through the
games of Morphy, Steinitz, and Lasker to see how they injected dynamism
into their play.
  #3  
Old October 30th 06, 04:30 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Dave (from the UK)
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Ron wrote:
In article ,
"John Evans" wrote:


I just put up four of my games on my web site. If you guys have time can you
look at this very small sample and tell me what you think.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewer/chess_viewer.html



One thing I noticed (although personally, I'd much prefer it if you
pasted PGN to a post rather than used the java player - it'd make it
easier for me to go over your games and explore variations) is that your
opening play is very passive. You're playing by rote.


You can actually get at his PGN file. Whilst I know this is not what you
should need to do, but if you look at the source code for that page
(which has *tons* of unnecessary stuff in it), the location of the PGN
is given as :

my_games/my_games.pgn

so the URL is

http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewe...s/my_games.pgn


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Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form:
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

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Old October 30th 06, 06:32 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
markgravitygood@gmail.com
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John Evans wrote:
I just put up four of my games on my web site. If you guys have time can you
look at this very small sample and tell me what you think.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewer/chess_viewer.html


--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/


My quick observation was that in Game 1 11...Nh5 seemed out of place.
Perhaps 11...d5 was called for, especially given your pawn structure in
the center...

http://chess-training.blogspot.com

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Old November 1st 06, 12:44 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
John Evans
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Thanks, for the help! Those suggestions were great. I absolutely agree with
your analysis of my play. I get so nervous at tournaments I play scared. I
know I'm doing it and can't stop. It's my biggest hurdle.

I'm also going to post my games in pgn.

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
"Ron" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"John Evans" wrote:

I just put up four of my games on my web site. If you guys have time can
you
look at this very small sample and tell me what you think.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewer/chess_viewer.html


One thing I noticed (although personally, I'd much prefer it if you
pasted PGN to a post rather than used the java player - it'd make it
easier for me to go over your games and explore variations) is that your
opening play is very passive. You're playing by rote.

In game one:

1. e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Nc3 d6 (Nf6 is stronger) 5.h3? a6? (Bb5
isn't a meaningful threat, and if he wants to try to win the bishop via
Na5, you don't mind) 6.d3 h6? (the pin is nothing to be afraid of
because you haven't castled yet) 7.0-0 Nf6 8.a3? 0-0 (worth considering
was delaying castling and attacking on the kingside with ...g5 and g4.)

In game two:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0?! (c3, b4, or d4 are all better moves
by far) d6 5.d3 h6? 6.a3? (again, you're defending against nonexistent
threats) Be6 7.Bb5?!

In game 3:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3?! very unambitious. Both 4.Bg4 and
4.d4 present black with real challenges.

And game four just reveals your lack of knowledge of basic 1.d4 d5
opening fundamentals.

If you can find a copy, I think you'll definitely benefit from reading
Reti's "Master's of the Chessboard." You need to spend a few weeks
playing through annotated master games in the giuoco piano, to learn how
it can be a potent attacking weapon.

You play very rotely, constantly afraid of your opponents moves even
though they aren't really that dangerous. You need to play through the
games of Morphy, Steinitz, and Lasker to see how they injected dynamism
into their play.



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Old November 1st 06, 12:51 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
John Evans
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Default help with analysis

I used a site builder for my site so I've been trying to clean it up. Thanks
for visiting.

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
"Dave (from the UK)"
wrote in message ...
Ron wrote:
In article ,
"John Evans" wrote:


I just put up four of my games on my web site. If you guys have time can
you look at this very small sample and tell me what you think.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewer/chess_viewer.html



One thing I noticed (although personally, I'd much prefer it if you
pasted PGN to a post rather than used the java player - it'd make it
easier for me to go over your games and explore variations) is that your
opening play is very passive. You're playing by rote.


You can actually get at his PGN file. Whilst I know this is not what you
should need to do, but if you look at the source code for that page (which
has *tons* of unnecessary stuff in it), the location of the PGN is given
as :

my_games/my_games.pgn

so the URL is

http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewe...s/my_games.pgn


--
Dave (from the UK)

Please note my email address changes periodically to avoid spam.
It is always of the form:
Hitting reply will work for a few months only - later set it manually.

http://witm.sourceforge.net/ (Web based Mathematica front end)



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Old November 1st 06, 12:56 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
John Evans
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Default help with analysis

Thanks, for the help.

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
wrote in message
oups.com...

John Evans wrote:
I just put up four of my games on my web site. If you guys have time can
you
look at this very small sample and tell me what you think.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewer/chess_viewer.html


--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/


My quick observation was that in Game 1 11...Nh5 seemed out of place.
Perhaps 11...d5 was called for, especially given your pawn structure in
the center...

http://chess-training.blogspot.com



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Old November 1st 06, 08:51 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
atorreci@gmail.com
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En/na Dave (from the UK) ha escrit:
In article ,
"John Evans" wrote:

I just put up four of my games on my web site. If you guys have time
can you look at this very small sample and tell me what you think.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewer/chess_viewer.html


so the URL is
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewe...s/my_games.pgn


Hello John,

Some comments to your games:

- It seems to me that there were some little waste of time by both
players (like h3, ...h6, ...) but that's not a great problem.

- There are sme tactical mistakes but all us have tactical mistakes. I
do not see you play worse middlegames than medium player.

- But in endgame play I cam see many mistakes, being some of them in
very known positions. Maybe you should try to analyze those games for
yourself (better than engine analysis) trying to see what were those
mistakes. In 4th game there were not so many mistakes (actually white
played poorly), but in first 3 there are many iunteresting moments.
Later you can post here those analysis and some of us can try to check
the correctness of those analysis suggesting other improvements.

Antonio

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Old November 1st 06, 01:55 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
markgravitygood@gmail.com
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John Evans wrote:
Thanks, for the help.

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
wrote in message
oups.com...

John Evans wrote:
I just put up four of my games on my web site. If you guys have time can
you
look at this very small sample and tell me what you think.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewer/chess_viewer.html


--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/


My quick observation was that in Game 1 11...Nh5 seemed out of place.
Perhaps 11...d5 was called for, especially given your pawn structure in
the center...

http://chess-training.blogspot.com


To improve steadily and remove fear and doubt from your play, you have
to

1) Embrace your losses
2) Examine your losses and discover exactly why you lost (with a better
player or a comp)
3) Continue to work to improve your entire game, and work specifically
on parts of your game you are deficient in.
4) Lessons are beneficial if you can afford them

Every loss should teach you something you did not know about chess. If
you learn it, then you hopefully do not repeat the same mistake again.

AMATEURS PRACTICE UNTIL THEY GET IT RIGHT
PROFESSIONALS PRACTICE UNTIL THE CAN'T GET IT WRONG

You want to at least act like a professional when you study...

Read this article

http://chess-training.blogspot.com/2...-schedule.html

on my blog. There should be some good information you can use.

KEEP PLAYING and don't fear losing! A fear of losing is a fear of
learning.

Regards,
Mark

 




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