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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: To the USCF
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samsloan wrote:
Prior to the Executive Board meeting in Los Angeles, I asked Bill Hall
to bring to the meeting information about all the Free Ads for Polgar
that keep appearing in Chess Life.

For example, on page 68 of the February 2007 Chess Life there is an ad
that lists Polgar as a "Gold Affiliate".

Under the rules, to be a "Gold Affiliate" one must pay $350.

However, the CD that was distributed to the board and the finance
committee at my insistence fails to show that Polgar has ever paid any
money at all to the USCF. Not only has she never paid this money, but
she has never paid ANY money. She has never even paid rating fees for
events held at her club.

The CD shows that the USCF has paid 50 or 60 checks to Polgar, often
for large amounts, but Polgar has never paid the USCF anything at all.

Bill Hall replied that these ads were in exchange for services. The
services include signing autographs and posing for pictures with
scholastic players, while rarely or almost never playing a single game
of chess.

In other words, Miss Polgar has become like Anna Nicole Smith, who was
famous for being famous.

As to Donna's objection that these free ads in exchange for "services"
should be recorded on the books, Bill Hall stated that he will start
doing that in the future. He did not explain why he has not done it in
the past.

Sam Sloan


I find it nauseating that the USCF continues to allow the constant
lies and deceits by Mr. Sloan. His charges are once again utterly
ridiculous and completely false. They are clearly aimed as a dirty and
destructive political weapon for the upcoming election.

GM Susan Polgar does not receive any free ad. This specific lie has
been refuted many times before.

Now, Mr. Sloan states that there is no payment of $350. Judy Misner
not only acknowledged that $350 was paid, she even informed GM Polgar
of the exact date of the payment.

Instead of saying THANK YOU for supporting US Chess and the USCF, Mr.
Sloan is out to create more and more enemies by insulting, demeaning
and lying about them. When is it enough? When will you start to take
actions? When will Mr. Sloan be banned from this forum? How many times
does he have to violate the rules for sanctions to take place? 100,
1000?

Mr. Sloan does not attend National Scholastic events. He has no clue
of what GM Polgar does at these events. When Mr. Sloan insulted GM
Polgar on the record during the board meeting in LA, members of the
Scholastic Council corrected Mr. Sloan. They were offended by his
irresponsible attacks. Even after being correct, Mr. Sloan continues
to demean GM Polgar.

How can you sit still and allow Mr. Sloan to continue this unethical
and destructive line of conducts? Is this in the best interest of
chess and the USCF? Do you condone Mr. Sloan's irresponsible false
charges? Is this an acceptable image of the USCF Executive Board? Will
anything be done?

Best regards,
PT
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: Reply with
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"In other words, Miss Polgar has become like Anna Nicole Smith, who
was famous for being famous."

Does he just make misstatements like these to be provocative? Or is he
as unhinged as fabrications like this make him appear to be? First of
all, as Chess Promotion pointed out, to my knowledge Sam Sloan has not
attended any recent National Scholastic events (and thank goodness for
that, although I do relish the image of him being chased out of a
convention center by a bunch of irate chess moms using their kids'
oversized trophies as weapons). I've sat in on at least one simul that
Susan has played at a recent National. Beyond that, she is a source of
encouragement and inspiration to numerous young scholastic players,
both boys and girls, whether handing out trophies at an awards
ceremony of congratulating a young player on a game well played. I
can't even go near the Anna Nicole Smith analogy. Let's just say it is
both in extremely poor taste (surprise!) and completely inapposite.
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New postPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: Reply with
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ueschessmom wrote:
"In other words, Miss Polgar has become like Anna Nicole Smith, who
was famous for being famous."

Does he just make misstatements like these to be provocative? Or is he
as unhinged as fabrications like this make him appear to be? First of
all, as Chess Promotion pointed out, to my knowledge Sam Sloan has not
attended any recent National Scholastic events (and thank goodness for
that, although I do relish the image of him being chased out of a
convention center by a bunch of irate chess moms using their kids'
oversized trophies as weapons). I've sat in on at least one simul that
Susan has played at a recent National. Beyond that, she is a source of
encouragement and inspiration to numerous young scholastic players,
both boys and girls, whether handing out trophies at an awards
ceremony of congratulating a young player on a game well played. I
can't even go near the Anna Nicole Smith analogy. Let's just say it is
both in extremely poor taste (surprise!) and completely inapposite.


Unfortunately, this is the normal behavior of Mr. Sloan. He recently
posted this:

"For the past months I have been tormented by this secret that I have
been holding. But now I can hold it no longer. Now I must finally
confess that: I am the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby."

He also claimed that he had relations with GM Polgar when she and her
family have clearly stated that it is a complete fabrication on his
part. He was thrown out of their home for inappropriate solicitation
of a minor. He was never welcome back.

Is this appropriate for a USCF Executive Board Member? I realize that
the USCF cannot force Mr. Sloan to go see a psychiatrist. However,
they can take actions against inappropriate conducts and behavior.

What I do not understand is why the USCF has not taken actions against
Mr. Sloan for his unethical, deceitful, destructive and malicious
actions in this forum in the last few months. Why does the USCF refuse
to enforce the code of conducts.

Best regards,
PT
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New postPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: Reply with
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ChessPromotion wrote:
.... He was thrown out of their home for inappropriate solicitation of
a minor. ...
As far as I can recall, Susan has never said this.
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New postPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: Reply with
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artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
.... He was thrown out of their home for inappropriate solicitation of
a minor. ...
As far as I can recall, Susan has never said this.


She said he was asked to leave and he was never welcome back. Other
members of her family also said the same. That is a nice way to say
that he was thrown out.

Please don't tell me that you will defend this too.
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New postPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: Reply with
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ChessPromotion wrote:
artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
.... He was thrown out of their home for inappropriate solicitation of
a minor. ...
As far as I can recall, Susan has never said this.


She said he was asked to leave and he was never welcome back. Other
members of her family also said the same. That is a nice way to say
that he was thrown out.

Please don't tell me that you will defend this too.

Susan never said that he had solicited a minor. You said he did. Why
did you say it?
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New postPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: Reply with
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artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
.... He was thrown out of their home for inappropriate solicitation of
a minor. ...
As far as I can recall, Susan has never said this.


She said he was asked to leave and he was never welcome back. Other
members of her family also said the same. That is a nice way to say
that he was thrown out.

Please don't tell me that you will defend this too.

Susan never said that he had solicited a minor. You said he did. Why
did you say it?


She said he inappropriately solicited her and he was asked to leave
their home. She was 16. I have a daughter near that age. I take
offense to people who think it is normal to solicit teenagers.

This is my last response to you in this matter. This post was to the
board and not to you. I would appreciate it if you would let them
answer my question. Thanks!
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New postPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: Reply with
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ChessPromotion wrote:
artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
.... He was thrown out of their home for inappropriate solicitation of
a minor. ...
As far as I can recall, Susan has never said this.


She said he was asked to leave and he was never welcome back. Other
members of her family also said the same. That is a nice way to say
that he was thrown out.

Please don't tell me that you will defend this too.

Susan never said that he had solicited a minor. You said he did. Why
did you say it?


She said he inappropriately solicited her and he was asked to leave
their home. She was 16. I have a daughter near that age. I take
offense to people who think it is normal to solicit teenagers.

This is my last response to you in this matter. This post was to the
board and not to you. I would appreciate it if you would let them
answer my question. Thanks!

1. As I recall there was some inconsistency in what Susan wrote, for
whatever reason, so I'm not sure that what you say is consistent with
all of what Susan said.

2. She was not a minor, there, where we are talking about.

3. You can take offense to whatever you want. It's the mud-slinging
that I object to. And I am going to try to point it out when I observe
it.

It would have been an interesting lunch ...
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New postPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: Reply with
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artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
.... He was thrown out of their home for inappropriate solicitation of
a minor. ...
As far as I can recall, Susan has never said this.


She said he was asked to leave and he was never welcome back. Other
members of her family also said the same. That is a nice way to say
that he was thrown out.

Please don't tell me that you will defend this too.

Susan never said that he had solicited a minor. You said he did. Why
did you say it?


She said he inappropriately solicited her and he was asked to leave
their home. She was 16. I have a daughter near that age. I take
offense to people who think it is normal to solicit teenagers.

This is my last response to you in this matter. This post was to the
board and not to you. I would appreciate it if you would let them
answer my question. Thanks!

1. As I recall there was some inconsistency in what Susan wrote, for
whatever reason, so I'm not sure that what you say is consistent with
all of what Susan said.

2. She was not a minor, there, where we are talking about.

3. You can take offense to whatever you want. It's the mud-slinging
that I object to. And I am going to try to point it out when I observe
it.

It would have been an interesting lunch ...


"... during [Mr. Sloan's stay at my family's apartment], he made a
number of completely inappropriate solicitation to me, a minor at that
time, ..." - Susan Polgar (Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:31 pm)

This is the exact quote directly from Susan Polgar.
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New postPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: Reply with
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artichoke wrote:
ChessPromotion wrote:
.... He was thrown out of their home for inappropriate solicitation of
a minor. ...
As far as I can recall, Susan has never said this.

Correct. Susan has never said this and in fact nothing of the sort
took place.

I stayed as a guest in Susan's home during two periods in 1986. The
first ended when we traveled together to the International Tournament
in Albena, Bulgaria, which was won by Susan.

The second ended when we traveled together to the International
Tournament in Copenhagen. I do not know who won because I had to
return to the USA in the middle of the tournament due to family
emergency involving my mother and daughter.

Susan was 17, not 16, during these times. You can look up the exact
dates of the tournaments in Chess Informant and other publications.

I remained on good terms with Susan until quite recently when Paul
Truong who posts here as "ChessPromotions" started attacking me after
I won the election.

Sam Sloan

Since it's a bit hard to follow the above without quotation marks, I
provide a copy of the current forum content:

http://tinyurl.com/2975tk

The answer, my friend, is that you are completely insane.
You come off as a raving lunatic in your posts. Learn how
to act like Sloan or Parr, who hide their insanity fairly
well. Once you master the art of appearing sane, you can
post on any forum you wish.

"Ambassador" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 12, 7:44 pm, "
wrote:
Since it's a bit hard to follow the above without quotation marks, I
provide a copy of the current forum content:

http://tinyurl.com/2975tk

Why are my posts deleted on the USCF forums? I am simply deleted,
without explaniation. The facts are that USCF must drug test, on US
soil, or geet out of the World Chess Championship.

Marcus Roberts

On Feb 12, 11:10 pm, "Chess Freak" wrote:
Once you master the art of appearing sane, you can post on any forum you wish.

Hmm. A Federation full of wackos, and I'm the only one who earns the
Mike Nolan Lifetime Ban from the USCF Issues Forum. This takes a
certain talent... ;-)

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...7c7ccd3?hl=en&

And you? You're reading rgcp! Hypocrite lecteur! Mon semblable!
Mon frère!