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BILL BROCK'S BIG LIE

The fact that some co-author of a book was convicted of molesting a
minor some years after writing a book does not mean that Sloan
advocates molesting
children. -- Joker


We have that old Bill Brock lie again. He
claims that Sam Sloan has given an account of how the
latter molested children.

Once again, not true. There remains no proof
that Sam has ever molested a child -- let alone any
admission on Sam's part.

Mr. Brock himself, in a moment of excitement,
did suggest that he Brock had played with young boys
at one time, but we have stipulated that he did not
mean to say what actually emerged from his keyboard.

I neither know nor care whether Mr. Brock is, as
charged by one Joker, a repressed or a raging
homosexual. In fact, one wishes that the man would
give his obsessions, which apparently includes a wide
reading in pornography, a rest.

The latest Brockian joust at the windmill he
evident imagines Sam to be is that the latter ought to
be kicked off the Executive Board, legally or
illegally, because he sells a book written by bogeyman
Jefferson Poland. By that logic virtually every book
seller in America would be ineligible for membership
on the USCF Executive Board. The contents of many
psychology books that are widely sold contain
hair-raising accounts of human depravity, beginning
with Freud. As for the thousands of novels in which
fiction really has outstripped reality, those who sell
them would also be unfit to serve on the board. If you
own a Border's or a Barnes &Noble outlet, you had
better forget about working within the chess movement,
if poor Mr. Brock ever has his way.

Until the Brock man can provide us proof --
which he repeatedly stated he had -- that Sam has ever
molested a child, I believe that his obsessively
sexualized postings are saying more about him in the
minds of many readers than they are about Mr. Sloan.



Joker wrote:
[b]y Polgar's account, Sloan sexually
propositioned her at age 16 *and was rebuffed*.


The age of consent is 13-18 in most states. Since Polgar is from Poland or
Lithuania, you should find out what the age of consent is in that nation.

The fact that some co-author of a book was convicted of molesting a minor
some years after writing a book does not mean that Sloan advocates molesting
children.

You really need to get rid of your repressed homosexuality in a more
positive manner. Go to a gay bar and get ****ed up the ass by the regulars.
Pull a train. Do a daisy chain. Get a life.

ON TECHNIQUE IN CHESS
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BILL BROCK'S BIG LIE

The fact that some co-author of a book was convicted of molesting a
minor some years after writing a book does not mean that Sloan
advocates molesting
children. -- Joker

We have that old Bill Brock lie again. He
claims that Sam Sloan has given an account of how the
latter molested children.

Could use some back-up material; a "doctored" comment
wherein BB says something /like/ this, taken out of context
might work.


Once again, not true. There remains no proof
that Sam has ever molested a child -- let alone any
admission on Sam's part.

Mr. Brock himself, in a moment of excitement,
did suggest that he Brock had played with young boys
at one time, but we have stipulated that he did not
mean to say what actually emerged from his keyboard.

Just a brief comment he I think it would be more interesting
for the plot if Mr. Parr said that BB had an affair with a young Tai
girl, instead of this homosexual stuff. The point is to connect
the ad hom charge to the poster via something he *actually
wrote*.

I neither know nor care whether Mr. Brock is, as
charged by one Joker, a repressed or a raging
homosexual.

Good stuff, this!

In fact, one wishes that the man would
give his obsessions, which apparently includes a wide
reading in pornography, a rest.

Excellent; readers will know that BB has discussed his
reading of Sam Sloan's Web site, which is known to contain
pornography, so it all fits together nicely.


The latest Brockian joust at the windmill he
evident imagines Sam to be is that the latter ought to
be kicked off the Executive Board, legally or
illegally, because he sells a book written by bogeyman
Jefferson Poland.

Sentence makes little sense; but I like the insertion of
"bogeyman" -- very nice.


By that logic virtually every book
seller in America would be ineligible for membership
on the USCF Executive Board.

Your Slippery Slope technique is good.

The contents of many
psychology books that are widely sold contain
hair-raising accounts of human depravity, beginning
with Freud.

Nice diversion. Readers will of course be confounded by
thinking on Freud and depravity, instead of Sam Sloan and
advocacy of child molestation. Clever.


As for the thousands of novels in which
fiction really has outstripped reality, those who sell
them would also be unfit to serve on the board. If you
own a Border's or a Barnes &Noble outlet, you had
better forget about working within the chess movement,
if poor Mr. Brock ever has his way.

FYI: Very few readers here are likely to own such a store.
But the intent was nice. Also, readers may not easily
identify with and feel sympathy for so wealthy a person.
In sum, the "victim" needs to be someone we can all feel
for, and wish to protect from harm -- a child, perhaps?


Until the Brock man can provide us proof --
which he repeatedly stated he had -- that Sam has ever
molested a child, I believe that his obsessively
sexualized postings are saying more about him in the
minds of many readers than they are about Mr. Sloan.

Better to leave out mention of SS altogether; the idea was to trick
readers into forgetting about him and his past transgressions,
and instead focus on the many diversions. Keep trying; my
comments are meant well, not as mean nitpicking.

-- help bot

"help bot" In sum, the "victim" needs to be someone we can all feel
for, and wish to protect from harm -- a child, perhaps?


Brock's jack-off buddy comes to his rescue. No doubt one of them is the fake
Sloan, and the other is the fake Gordon.

Uzytkownik "help bot" napisal w wiadomosci
ups.com...

Excellent; readers will know that BB has discussed his
reading of Sam Sloan's Web site, which is known to contain
pornography, so it all fits together nicely.


Isn`t it a crime in the USA ? Go to the police Greg then. Otherwise you are
a criminal.

On Feb 14, 6:27 am, " wrote:
BILL BROCK'S BIG LIE


I knew you could do it! I never stopped believing in you, kiddo.

However, your performance is a bit off-key. You and I know what's
going on, but it's in your interest not to make the discursive reality
so transparent to the gallery.

:-)


[...]


The latest Brockian joust at the windmill he
evident imagines Sam to be is that the latter ought to
be kicked off the Executive Board, legally or
illegally, because he sells a book written by bogeyman
Jefferson Poland. By that logic virtually every book
seller in America would be ineligible for membership
on the USCF Executive Board. The contents of many
psychology books that are widely sold contain
hair-raising accounts of human depravity, beginning
with Freud. As for the thousands of novels in which
fiction really has outstripped reality, those who sell
them would also be unfit to serve on the board. If you
own a Border's or a Barnes &Noble outlet, you had
better forget about working within the chess movement,
if poor Mr. Brock ever has his way.

13. (for Parr) Was _Sex Marchers_ (ISBN 1881373053) written by
Jefferson Poland alone?

Hint: http://www.samsloan.com/sexmarchers.htm

14. (compound question, for Parr) Is there anything objectionable in
the following passage from _Sex Marchers_? Or is this a philosophy of
child rearing to which Parr would subscribe? Or would Parr seek a
libertarian distance from the question, feeling that while he might
not personally subscribe to the philosophy, one's children--like one's
other chattel--are one's own affair?

[A sexually free human being] goes naked most of the time, except
when there is some positive reason (not shame or modesty or fear) to
dress up. "Clothes are bandages for sick bodies", says Tuli
Kupferberg. I believe nudism is fundamental and necessary prerequisite
for sexual freedom. Clothes commonly build barriers of sexual fear and
hostility. We learn "Don't look" when we are still too young to
comprehend "Don't ****". Each adult needs to spend several years
living in a nude society, in order to overcome the bad effects of our
shame-filled childhoods. And our children should be completely spared
the morbid sickness of hiding their beautiful bodies like some sort of
carrion deemed too foul for the light of day .

15. (for readers of Foucault) What is the relevance of the concept of
the author-function to the passage cited above? Cliff's Notes
available he http://www.lawrence.edu/dept/english...ts/author.html
Would the reader like to bring about the figurative "death of the
author" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_the_Author (here I would
call particular attention to Foucault's juridical function) in favor
of a purely textual practice of reading (the pleasure of the child-
molesting text)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pleasure_of_the_Text

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Completely OT, but an amazing book on my nightstand; interesting
counterpoint to Chasseguet-Smirgel:

Slavoj Zizek, The Parallax View (MIT, 2006) Available in Borders and
Barnes & Noble's. :-)

http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item...pe=2&tid=10762

Wikipedia follies: note the editor's comment. (One might go further
and note the anonymous editor's history of WP edits, but that would be
cruel....)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...id=103 700366

politikalhack@ our children should be completely spared
the morbid sickness of hiding their beautiful bodies like some sort of
carrion deemed too foul for the light of day .

Larry Hagman (Major Nelson and JR Ewing) of TV acting fame was a lifelong
nudist and openly discussed the fact that he was always nude in front of his
daughters, and they likewise were always nude in front of him. This was his
way of life, and his friends watched him and his wife and daughters in the
nude when they visited him at home. Did he molest his kids? Not as far as
anyone knows.

On Feb 14, 9:47 am, "Joker" wrote:
politikalhack@ our children should be completely spared

the morbid sickness of hiding their beautiful bodies like some sort of
carrion deemed too foul for the light of day .

Larry Hagman (Major Nelson and JR Ewing) of TV acting fame was a lifelong
nudist and openly discussed the fact that he was always nude in front of his
daughters, and they likewise were always nude in front of him. This was his
way of life, and his friends watched him and his wife and daughters in the
nude when they visited him at home. Did he molest his kids? Not as far as
anyone knows.

And I admired the way that J.R. defended Bobby even after baby
brother's unfortunate arrest....

Got no time for spreadin' roots, the time has come to be gone. And to
our health we drank a thousand times, it's time to ramble on.

"samsloan" wrote in message
oups.com...
The moderator at uschess.org/forums has gone nuts today, deleting
numerous postings by myself, Joel Channing and Joe Lux.

Here is one of my postings that was deleted by the moderator:

Again you are new here and you do not know the history. You should
read more and write less. Especially you should read the debate over
these issues that took place over on rec.games.chess.politics long
before this forum was even created.

The wrong doings that occurred in 2003 are well documented and even
more evidence is now mounting.

There are a lot of questions about the "NY Mayors Cup". However,
nobody is doubting that the games were played, especially since I was
there and watched them being played.

There are many other questions about Susan which need to be answered.
For example she has long claimed to have won the World Championship
for Girls Under-16 in 1981 in Brighton, England. However, a researcher
has just discovered that in 1981 the World Championship for girls
Under-16 was held in Denmark and Susan did not play in it.

She also claims to have won the World Rapid and World Blitz
Championship for women in 1992. However, those were unofficial events
and her only strong competition were her sisters, Sofia and Judit.

She claims to have won the "Triple-Crown" in chess. That is not true
as there is no such title.

In short, it is not true that Susan is a Four Time World Chess
Champion. It is a lie that has been repeated countless times. She only
won the Woman's World Championship once and then refused to defend her
title.

There is no doubt that Susan is a very strong player with many great
accomplishments. However, I feel that Susan should stick to the claims
that are verifiable and true and not make claims that are false.

As to the controversy about her demands for payment in 2003, here is a
copy of the invoice Susan sent to the USCF:

Polgar Chess Center

[contact info redacted]

Grandmaster Susan Polgar
4-time Women's World Chess Champion & 3-time Olympic Champion

INVOICE # 102003

KISSIMMEE 2003 (3 days of activities)

Expenses for Susan Polgar, Tom & Leeam Shutzman Polgar and Paul Truong
a) Flight (4 tickets) = $820.00
b) Rental car = $449.86
Total Expenses: $1,269.86

Fee for simul, lectures, book signings, etc.
$2 / participant x 1168 participants = $2,336.00

NATIONAL ELEMENTARY - NASHVILLE 2003 (3 days of activities)

Expenses are already reimbursed.

Fee for simul, lectures, book signings, etc.
$2 / participants x 2396 participants = $4,792.00

US OPEN 2003 (14 days of activities)

Expenses for Susan Polgar and Paul Truong
a) Flight (2 tickets) $494.00
b) Daily allowance for food $50x2x14days = $1400.00
Total Expenses:
$1,494.00
Fee (Simul/Lecture/Book Signings etc.) $1,500.00

ROSEMONT K-12 DEC. 2003 (2-3 days of activities)

Susan's ticket only as agreed $246.50
Fee (Simul/Lecture/Book Signings etc. to be paid later) ($1,500.00)
Chess Life Opening Column - June 03 $500.00
Chess Life Opening Column - July 03 $500.00
Chess Life Opening Column - August 03 $500.00
Chess Life Opening Column - September 03 $500.00
Chess Life Opening Column - October 03 $500.00
_________
$15,638.36

Book & Equipment Balance:
$1,836.21
_________
$17,474.57
To be paid later
($1,500.00)
_________
$15,974.57

Please make check payable to Polgar Chess, Inc. Thank you!

Additional:

TLA amount: ? To be deducted or billed by the USCF

1,300 Women's Olympiad Calendars @ $6 each (payable to the Susan
Polgar Foundation) Only calendars that are sold are to be paid.
Unsold calendars can be returned by March 31, 2004 at no charge.

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Sam Sloan

This thread illustrates how far this newsgroup has sunk, and why the serious
posters who remain are few and far between.

Say what you will about Sam, but once again he is right and nobody cares.

Nobody can save USCF from its Stalinesque way of doing business. The
Federation is and always has been a secretive, unaccountable, thoroughly
incorrigible old-boy type organization. He's pointing it out, in his
inimitable (and admittedly not always accurate) fashion.

All most of you are capable of is repeating the goddamned bull**** you read
here from Sloan-bashers. It doesn't take much brainpower to pick one insult
or accusation from column A, one from column B, etc., throw in a couple of
expletives, some punctuation, and a few misspellings for effect, and you
have a ready-made response to anything Sam posts here.

It's much less trouble, I guess, simply to rely on super-sanitized,
moderated (i.e. censored) forums, where whistle-blowers are simply
squelched.

On Feb 14, 1:35 pm, "Ange1o DePa1ma"
wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message

Say what you will about Sam, but once again he is right and nobody
cares.

When he's right on an issue? Hey, Donna Alarie cares. (Were I still
a USCF member, I'd care.) Should barter ad revenue be booked? You
bet.

Doesn't make Sloan any less immoral, however. Ethical gadflies (such
as Donna) are good; unethical gadflies are pests.

Or less stupid: we have a Board member actively blocking organization
of the 2007 US Championship.