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Old February 13th 07, 09:00 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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The moderator at uschess.org/forums has gone nuts today, deleting
numerous postings by myself, Joel Channing and Joe Lux.

Here is one of my postings that was deleted by the moderator:

Again you are new here and you do not know the history. You should
read more and write less. Especially you should read the debate over
these issues that took place over on rec.games.chess.politics long
before this forum was even created.

The wrong doings that occurred in 2003 are well documented and even
more evidence is now mounting.

There are a lot of questions about the "NY Mayors Cup". However,
nobody is doubting that the games were played, especially since I was
there and watched them being played.

There are many other questions about Susan which need to be answered.
For example she has long claimed to have won the World Championship
for Girls Under-16 in 1981 in Brighton, England. However, a researcher
has just discovered that in 1981 the World Championship for girls
Under-16 was held in Denmark and Susan did not play in it.

She also claims to have won the World Rapid and World Blitz
Championship for women in 1992. However, those were unofficial events
and her only strong competition were her sisters, Sofia and Judit.

She claims to have won the "Triple-Crown" in chess. That is not true
as there is no such title.

In short, it is not true that Susan is a Four Time World Chess
Champion. It is a lie that has been repeated countless times. She only
won the Woman's World Championship once and then refused to defend her
title.

There is no doubt that Susan is a very strong player with many great
accomplishments. However, I feel that Susan should stick to the claims
that are verifiable and true and not make claims that are false.

As to the controversy about her demands for payment in 2003, here is a
copy of the invoice Susan sent to the USCF:

Polgar Chess Center

[contact info redacted]

Grandmaster Susan Polgar
4-time Women's World Chess Champion & 3-time Olympic Champion

INVOICE # 102003

KISSIMMEE 2003 (3 days of activities)

Expenses for Susan Polgar, Tom & Leeam Shutzman Polgar and Paul Truong
a) Flight (4 tickets) = $820.00
b) Rental car = $449.86
Total Expenses: $1,269.86

Fee for simul, lectures, book signings, etc.
$2 / participant x 1168 participants = $2,336.00

NATIONAL ELEMENTARY - NASHVILLE 2003 (3 days of activities)

Expenses are already reimbursed.

Fee for simul, lectures, book signings, etc.
$2 / participants x 2396 participants = $4,792.00

US OPEN 2003 (14 days of activities)

Expenses for Susan Polgar and Paul Truong
a) Flight (2 tickets) $494.00
b) Daily allowance for food $50x2x14days = $1400.00
Total Expenses:
$1,494.00
Fee (Simul/Lecture/Book Signings etc.) $1,500.00

ROSEMONT K-12 DEC. 2003 (2-3 days of activities)

Susan's ticket only as agreed $246.50
Fee (Simul/Lecture/Book Signings etc. to be paid later) ($1,500.00)
Chess Life Opening Column - June 03 $500.00
Chess Life Opening Column - July 03 $500.00
Chess Life Opening Column - August 03 $500.00
Chess Life Opening Column - September 03 $500.00
Chess Life Opening Column - October 03 $500.00
_________
$15,638.36

Book & Equipment Balance:
$1,836.21
_________
$17,474.57
To be paid later
($1,500.00)
_________
$15,974.57

Please make check payable to Polgar Chess, Inc. Thank you!

Additional:

TLA amount: ? To be deducted or billed by the USCF

1,300 Women's Olympiad Calendars @ $6 each (payable to the Susan
Polgar Foundation) Only calendars that are sold are to be paid.
Unsold calendars can be returned by March 31, 2004 at no charge.

****
END STATEMENT
****

Sam Sloan

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Old February 13th 07, 10:52 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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The subject matter below, directly relevant to Sam Sloan's fitness to
serve as a fiduciary of a national nonprofit organization, was also
deleted from the USCF Issues Forum, and is therefore on topic.

:-)

If one visits samsloan.com, one will see prominent ads for a book
first published in 1968, _Sex Marchers_; co-authored by Jefferson
Poland and Sloan himself. http://www.samsloan.com/sexmarchers.htm

1. This book, sold by Sloan even today, endorses a platform of sexual
emancipation for children. An excerpt is cited below:

http://www.sterneck.net/cybertribe/s...ague/index.php

[A sexually free human being] goes naked most of the time, except
when there is some
positive reason (not shame or modesty or fear) to dress up. "Clothes
are bandages for sick bodies", says Tuli Kupferberg. I believe nudism
is fundamental and necessary prerequisite for sexual freedom. Clothes
commonly build barriers of sexual fear and hostility. We learn
"Don't look" when we are still too young to comprehend "Don't
****". Each adult needs to spend several years living in a nude
society, in order to overcome the bad effects of our shame-filled
childhoods. And our children should be completely spared the morbid
sickness of hiding their beautiful bodies like some sort of carrion
deemed too foul for the light of day .

The problem is not advocacy of naturism, but the advocacy of naturism
*for children in the context of a manifesto for sexual freedom*.

2. Poland was convicted by the State of California of having molested
an eight-year-old girl.

http://tinyurl.com/2qfvs2 I encourage the reader to click on the tabs
"Offenses" and "Known Aliases."

3. Poland has admitted that he "fondled the girl's vulva and
occasionally performed cunnilingus on her."

http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/Nudi...Clitlick2.html

http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/Nudi.../Clitlick.html

4. In 2006, Sam Sloan used Wikipedia as a platform to offer two
separate apologias for his former colleague Poland.

In Excerpt 1 below, Sloan accuses the child's parents of being
"obviously complici[t]" in the molestation. Even granting the
hypothetical, how would the parents' complicity be exculpatory?

In the contradictory Excerpt 2, Sloan accuses the child's parents of
themselves "abusing the child."

Sloan presents no evidence for the parent's complicity in Poland's
molestation or for his claim that the parents themselves abused the
daughter. Poland's curious choice of surname (as documented on the
California Megan's Law site) would tend to suggest otherwise.

EXCERPT 1:

The author of the following passage from an earlier version of the
Wikipedia article on Jefferson Poland was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
User:Sam_Sloan

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...oldid=41759835

In the early 1980s, Poland was charged with child molestation.
Apparently, a nudist couple, including David Irving and his
girlfriend,
had entrusted Poland with the care of their daughter while they were
nude sunbathing on Black's Beach in La Jolla, California near San
Diego. Some time later, the nudist couple accused Poland of having
performed cunnalingus [sic--WHB] on their daughter while they were
nude
sunbathing. Poland fled the country rather than face these charges. He
lived for five years as a fugitive in Australia until 1988, when he
was
extradited back to America. In view of the passage of time and the
obvious complicity of his accusers, Poland probably could have
successfully fought the charges. However, by that time he had changed
his name legally to "Clitlick" and he preferred to plead guilty to the
cunnalingus [sic--WHB] charge. He served about nine months in San
Diego
County Jail. Upon his release, he returned to live in San Francisco.
He
turned over his archives to the Bancroft Library of the University of
California at Berkeley, where they are now available for public
viewing
by academic researchers. Poland now lives in San Francisco, where he
is
monitored as a registered sex offender.

END EXCERPT 1

EXCERPT 2

On the Wikipedia talk page for the article on Jefferson Poland,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sam_Sloan (Sam Sloan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...did=463352 07
wrote:

I have not seen or spoken to Jefferson Poland since 1967. However,
based on what I have read, I strongly suspect that he was the victim
of
a setup. In the years I knew him, I never saw him express any interest
in children. I never even saw him express much interest in adult
woman,
except that he had a girlfriend, Holly Tannen, who followed him around
like a little puppy-dog everywhere he went.

Those were the glory days of sexual freedom. There was always a bevy
of
naked hippie chicks laying around with their legs spread open waiting
for some guy to come along. I partook of these opportunities
frequently, but I never saw Jefferson have sex with a woman, although
there were plenty of available women around.

My guess is that the nudist couple were themselves abusing the child.
Then, they left the child briefly in the care of Jefferson, so that
they could come back and accuse him of what they had actually done. If
the San Diego prosecutor really had proof that Jefferson was guilty,
he
would not have let him off with only nine months in jail. Sam Sloan
16:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Talk:Jefferson_Poland" (This passage has since been removed by
Wikipedia administrators.)

END EXCERPT 2

5. Given Sloan's interest in, and self-reported practice of, sexual
relations with minors, why is he still serving on the board of the
United States Chess Federation? Has the USCF's legal counsel been
presented with this evidence?

A. By Sloan's own account, he had a "seamy" and "not entirely
Platonic" relationship with Susan Polgar when she was 17 (a minor
under Hungarian and U.S. law) and he was in his early 40s; by Polgar's
account, Sloan sexually propositioned her at age 16.

B. Sloan boasts of a "dalliance" with a Burmese prostitute of "junior
high school age."

http://web.archive.org/web/200508282...om/burmese.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/200508291...m/burmese2.htm

Sloan here confirms that he had sexual relations with the minor:

http://web.archive.org/web/200605030...m/girlsgot.htm

C. Sloan hosts soft porn marketed to children on his website (e.g.,
http://www.shamema.com/pokeplot.htm the cartoon character is twelve
years old) and admits his libidinal interest in the child characters
http://tinyurl.com/2oskjb .

Toss Sloan out now. Let him sue. No court will ever hold a man who
has never made a habit of supporting his own children to be a fit
fiduciary for thousands of children.

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Old February 13th 07, 10:58 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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The paradox: the USCF Issues Forum does not allow the word
"cunnilingus" on its closed forum.

But the other members of the USCF Board (admittedly put in an
unenviable position by the few members who voted) have failed to
pursue all possible legal methods of removing the advocate of child
molestation from their board.

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Old February 13th 07, 11:06 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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Clarification to my first post upthread:

[b]y Polgar's account, Sloan sexually propositioned her at age 16 *and
was rebuffed*.


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Old February 14th 07, 12:08 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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A gracious hello to our friends visiting from the USCF Issues Forum,
who may have mistakenly believed there was no lower circle of hell.

You don't have to be DSM-IV 295.3 to post here, but it helps!

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Old February 14th 07, 04:29 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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You people? You became a life member in the USCF after Sloan
was elected. You helped Sloan get elected. Perhaps this was
done in order to carry out your threat to "destroy chess in
America"? Now you blame other people for your actions? What's
that? You voted 10 times for Sloan?

"Ambassador" wrote in message
s.com...
On Feb 13, 4:58 pm, "

You people in the USCF deserve Sam Sloan. You are in bed with a sexual
pervert, and I am going to tell the world of his perversion!

Marcus Roberts
Presdient
Chalreston Chess Assocaition, Inc.
St Kitts and Nevis
The West Indies
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
Head Cheese Taster of Dennys
Swollen Foot Delgate of Uranus



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Old February 14th 07, 04:58 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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[b]y Polgar's account, Sloan sexually
propositioned her at age 16 *and was rebuffed*.


The age of consent is 13-18 in most states. Since Polgar is from Poland or
Lithuania, you should find out what the age of consent is in that nation.

The fact that some co-author of a book was convicted of molesting a minor
some years after writing a book does not mean that Sloan advocates molesting
children.

You really need to get rid of your repressed homosexuality in a more
positive manner. Go to a gay bar and get ****ed up the ass by the regulars.
Pull a train. Do a daisy chain. Get a life.


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Old February 14th 07, 05:35 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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On Feb 13, 10:58 pm, "Joker" wrote:
[b]y Polgar's account, Sloan sexually
propositioned her at age 16 *and was rebuffed*.

The age of consent is 13-18 in most states. Since Polgar is from Poland or
Lithuania, you should find out what the age of consent is in that nation.


First, may I suggest that you read Stanislavski? ;-)

You know the age of consent is in Hungary, as do I. You also know the
age of majority in Hungary, as do I. A person who has not reached the
age of majority is a minor.


The fact that some co-author of a book was convicted of molesting a minor
some years after writing a book does not mean that Sloan advocates molesting
children.


Agreed--The Naked Gun_ did not make Leslie Nielsen responsible for
O.J. Simpson's subsequent actions. It's Sloan's accounts of his
molestation of children, his offering for sale in 2007 a treatise co-
authored by Poland that advocates the sexual emancipation of pre-
teens, his apologia for the convicted and confessed Poland's
molestation of an eight-year-old, his Pokémon porn with kid-friendly
links, etc. etc., that make him a child molester and advocate of child
molestation.


You really need to get rid of your repressed homosexuality in a more
positive manner. Go to a gay bar and get ****ed up the ass by the regulars.
Pull a train. Do a daisy chain. Get a life.


Well, tomorrow *is* Valentine's Day.... ;-)

And as for you, Sam? I wish I could give you constructive advice.
But some positions are beyond repair.

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Old February 14th 07, 08:14 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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politikalhack@You know the age of consent is in Hungary, as do I.

I don't know the age of consent in Hungary, and I don't care. I have no
interest in youth for any reason, including playing chess. If you are from
Hunger, then let us know all about it, Susan.

The fact that US Chess lets under-age punks play in Chess tournaments is
wrong. I think I would throw up if I had to play chess against some little
snot-nosed punk. One more reason not to be in the USCF.

Under-age kids should play in their own league. You don't see kids playing
adult football, basketball, baseball, and thus you don't see pro athletes
having sex with minors that they met at some tournament. This could only
happen in Chess.


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Old February 14th 07, 09:35 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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"Ambassador" You were thrown out of a nudist colony for sucking your dick
in
public. This is a true story. Why chess freak, after being expelled
from a nudsit colony and convicted of a misdemanor for sucking your
dick in front of a child, Marcus Roberts


He sucked my dick too, and so did you. So we should all be friends and hang
out.


 




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