On Apr 22, 10:45 pm, "Chess Freak" wrote:
You are missing the point, Sanny. Beginner does not make
moves in 5-10 seconds, it takes significantly longer than
what you say. Replaying the games do no good, since you do
not record move times. All I know is what I see when I play.

Each recorded game tells how much time the user/computer took for each
move.

Here is a recorded game between easy & softtanks

http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...375&game=Chess

You can see Easy level taking 30-60 seconds per move and many moves
were made in 5-10 seconds only. Beginner Level is quite faster on my
Machine.

I have 3 computers.

On my fast computer Pentium 2.5 GHz it takes 5-10 seconds per move.
On slower computer 1.5 GHz it takes 20-30 seconds / move
On my much slower Laptop it takes 40-50 seconds/ move

Also, your client causes my browser to consume too much memory
and eventually crash - that was how your engine 'beat' me one
time, it hung my system and I had to reboot. When I logged
back in, your wonderful program claimed I lost. I'll not
be visiting your website again.


Your ratings have been readjusted and that game was cancelled. It
happens when by mistake you press Resign Game button. I think there
should be a confirmation message before it should resign. I will ask
my programmers to correct that so that if the button is pressed it do
not resign immidietely.

I would love to see more games of yours at GetClub.com You are well
ahead of many good players and have good prospects may be you can come
in top 3.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

On Apr 23, 12:13 am, Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Ah, but I'm serious. There is no reward for gathering a large material
advantage or winning quickly.

To me, the advantage lies in the quality of the play,
(as opposed to a poorly played game which I won
despite my own blunders). A well played game can
be seen as a sort of work of art. (The flaw with chess
as art is that ony decent chess players can properly
appreciate it.)



The only thing that matters is 1-0.

Damned materialist! Commie. Nazi. American!

"The play's the thing."


I am
*always* more interested in a small material advantage that offers a
certain win (even if it means grinding out an endgame because the
opponent is too clueless to resign) rather than a huge material
advantage where my opponent still has chances.

Sanny's program ALWAYS has chances. For one,
it can register a click on the "resigns" button at any
time, even if you unplug your mouse and keyboard!


Sometimes, against Sanny's folly, I'll give the material advantage back,
just to watch it squirm. Like pulling wings off flies.

I see; you are the type who enjoys that sort of
thing, like the Marquis de Sade. Interesting... .
The next time the Spanish Inquisition is hiring,
I'll give you my highest recommendation.


If the program can't play ordinary chess, I'll look for an entertaining
game that I can play with it.

I like to take it out of book quickly, and find that
it leads to interesting games where the program
emulates a hyperactive, weak human player.


Which is, by the way, the only reason I *care* that the program runs at
the advertised speed.

To me, the fact that the program does not accurately
measure elapsed time demonstrates something about
the competence of its programmers. Especially after
advising Sanny of a simple solution to this problem.
I used to wonder whether any programmers could be
THIS incompetent, but no more. :D

-- help bot

On Apr 23, 1:54 am, Sanny wrote:

Your ratings have been readjusted and that game was cancelled. It
happens when by mistake you press Resign Game button. I think there
should be a confirmation message before it should resign. I will ask
my programmers to correct that so that if the button is pressed it do
not resign immidietely.

Sanny, I am currently playing several games at
another site called RedHotPawn, and I noticed
that it takes THREE separate actions to complete
a resignation:

1.click the "resign" button

2. click "yes", I resign

3. reconfirm the resignation

Weak players may find all this a tad annoying, but
I think it resolves any question as to intent.

-- help bot

On Apr 23, 1:54 am, Sanny wrote:

You are missing the point, Sanny. Beginner does not make
moves in 5-10 seconds, it takes significantly longer than
what you say. Replaying the games do no good, since you do
not record move times. All I know is what I see when I play.

I have noticed that sometimes my clock is running even
though the program's last move is not yet displayed on
the graphic board (though it is listed in text). In essence,
my clock is running but I am not thinking about the new
position, since I don't now what it is yet.



Also, your client causes my browser to consume too much memory
and eventually crash - that was how your engine 'beat' me one
time, it hung my system and I had to reboot. When I logged
back in, your wonderful program claimed I lost. I'll not
be visiting your website again.

Last night, I noticed the infinite pop-up window spawning
issue again. I spent as much time closing these annoying
windows as I did thinking about the game.

My suggestion is to remove the annoying pop-up windows,
and replace them with paid advertisements. For instance,
you could have an ad for Chessbase, one for Fritz, one for
the USCF, and even some for non-chess-related stuff.

-- help bot

On 22 Apr 2007 22:54:04 -0700, Sanny wrote:

On Apr 22, 10:45 pm, "Chess Freak" wrote:
You are missing the point, Sanny. Beginner does not make
moves in 5-10 seconds, it takes significantly longer than
what you say. Replaying the games do no good, since you do
not record move times. All I know is what I see when I play.

Each recorded game tells how much time the user/computer took for each
move.

Here is a recorded game between easy & softtanks

http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...375&game=Chess

You can see Easy level taking 30-60 seconds per move and many moves
were made in 5-10 seconds only. Beginner Level is quite faster on my
Machine.

Still false advertising. A program that meets the requirements 99% of
the time does not met the requirements.


I have 3 computers.

On my fast computer Pentium 2.5 GHz it takes 5-10 seconds per move.
On slower computer 1.5 GHz it takes 20-30 seconds / move
On my much slower Laptop it takes 40-50 seconds/ move

Still false advertising.


Also, your client causes my browser to consume too much memory
and eventually crash - that was how your engine 'beat' me one
time, it hung my system and I had to reboot. When I logged
back in, your wonderful program claimed I lost. I'll not
be visiting your website again.


Your ratings have been readjusted and that game was cancelled. It
happens when by mistake you press Resign Game button. I think there
should be a confirmation message before it should resign. I will ask
my programmers to correct that so that if the button is pressed it do
not resign immidietely.

I would love to see more games of yours at GetClub.com You are well
ahead of many good players and have good prospects may be you can come
in top 3.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

On 24 Apr 2007 15:10:39 -0700, help bot
wrote:

On Apr 23, 1:54 am, Sanny wrote:

You are missing the point, Sanny. Beginner does not make
moves in 5-10 seconds, it takes significantly longer than
what you say. Replaying the games do no good, since you do
not record move times. All I know is what I see when I play.

I have noticed that sometimes my clock is running even
though the program's last move is not yet displayed on
the graphic board (though it is listed in text). In essence,
my clock is running but I am not thinking about the new
position, since I don't now what it is yet.


I believe the clock isn't being truthful.




Also, your client causes my browser to consume too much memory
and eventually crash - that was how your engine 'beat' me one
time, it hung my system and I had to reboot. When I logged
back in, your wonderful program claimed I lost. I'll not
be visiting your website again.

Last night, I noticed the infinite pop-up window spawning
issue again. I spent as much time closing these annoying
windows as I did thinking about the game.

My suggestion is to remove the annoying pop-up windows,
and replace them with paid advertisements. For instance,
you could have an ad for Chessbase, one for Fritz, one for
the USCF, and even some for non-chess-related stuff.

-- help bot