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I am in Denver, CO awaiting a change of planes. I am taking a few
minutes to report some highlights of the meeting just concluded. Of utmost interest to this group, the Executive Board voted NOT to accept the resignation of Terry Winchester from the Forum Oversight Committee and voted NOT to accept the resignation of Grant Perks as chairman of the Audit Committee. Thus Mr. Winchester and Mr. Perks are required to hold those positions for the rest of their lives. Bill Hall presented a budget which showed a loss for ficsal 2007-2008 of $105, 973. Fortunately, Bill Goichberg saved the day by changing the numbers to report a surplus of $50,027. At a meeting of the USCF Executive Board on May 19-20 in Stillwater, Oklahoma, it was reported to the board that Susan Polgar had violated the trade name rights to two major chess events, by holding the "Susan Polgar National Open Chess Championship for Girls" and the Susan Polgar World Open Chess Championship for Girls" in violation of the rights to hold events by similar namees by the USCF. It was also reported that Susan Polgar is negotiating to move the Denker Tournament of High School Champions to Lubock, Texas although she does not hold the rights to that event. At a meeting of the USCF Executive Board on May 19-20, 2007 Sloan advocated an immediate reduction of personell costs of $80,000 but this was rejected by the board. Sloan did succeed in having a proposed raise for all employeed of 3.2% cancelled. Sam Sloan |
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samsloan writes:
At a meeting of the USCF Executive Board on May 19-20 in Stillwater, Oklahoma, it was reported to the board that Susan Polgar had violated the trade name rights to two major chess events, by holding the "Susan Polgar National Open Chess Championship for Girls" and the Susan Polgar World Open Chess Championship for Girls" in violation of the rights to hold events by similar namees by the USCF. USCF holds rights to Susan Polgar's name?! It was also reported that Susan Polgar is negotiating to move the Denker Tournament of High School Champions to Lubock, Texas although she does not hold the rights to that event. That sounds logical: if she wants the tournament moved and doesn't hold the rights to it, of course she'd have to suggest the idea to whoever has the rights, make proposals and incentive offers, all the stuff that we call negotiation. If she held the rights rights and wanted the event moved, she could just move it without having to negotiate with anyone. So I don't see what point Sam is trying to make. At a meeting of the USCF Executive Board on May 19-20, 2007 Sloan advocated an immediate reduction of personell costs of $80,000 but this was rejected by the board. I think this says that Sam wanted to fire Bill Hall without it occurring to Sam that a replacement for Bill would then be needed. |
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The UTD Chess Program is now run by Dr. Stallings. Tim Redman is no longer directly involved. Tim Redman introduced Dr. Stallings to me as his replacement at the US Amateur Team East Championship in Parsippany NJ. I had lunch with Dr. Redman at that time. (This was the same event where I received an award for "Shining Light on the USCF".) Dr. Stallings met with me and the rest of the board for about one hour yesterday, May 20. He said that the dropping of the scholarships this year had nothing to do with unhappiness with the USCF. It was an internal matter within UTD. He said that the scholarships might be reinstated next year. Sam Sloan |
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If Susan Polgar wants to organize her own tournament in Lubbock, Texas
and call it the "Susan Polgar Tournament of High School Champions" and award scholarships to Texas Tech University, everybody will applaud. Nobody will object. However, what she is trying to do here is taking a long established tournament, the Denker Tournament of High School Championships, grabbing it away from the USCF and converting it into a Polgar tournament. If Arnold Denker were alive today, he would be appalled. He would never stand for this. Similarly, by holding a "Susan Polgar World Open" and a "Susan Polgar National Open" she is infringing on the real World Open and the real National Open. It is feared that next she will be trying to take over the big USCF scholastic events. For example, she could take the National Elementary Championship and call it the Susan Polgar National Elementary Championship. And, she has not even been elected yet. Imagine what havoc she will cause if she actually gets elected and is still doing these things? Sam Sloan |
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samsloan writes:
However, what she is trying to do here is taking a long established tournament, the Denker Tournament of High School Championships, grabbing it away from the USCF and converting it into a Polgar tournament. Maybe she will do a better job with it than the USelessCF has done. If Arnold Denker were alive today, he would be appalled. He would never stand for this. Then again maybe he would applaud. Similarly, by holding a "Susan Polgar World Open" and a "Susan Polgar National Open" she is infringing on the real World Open and the real National Open. What does that have to do with the USCF? The existing (chess) World Open is a CCA event. Of course there's also a golf World Open and a squash World Open, so why not a Susan Polgar World Open? It is feared that next she will be trying to take over the big USCF scholastic events. For example, she could take the National Elementary Championship and call it the Susan Polgar National Elementary Championship. Sounds like a good plan. And, she has not even been elected yet. Imagine what havoc she will cause if she actually gets elected and is still doing these things? I don't understand why she's even running. She's in a perfect position to kick the USCF's ass from the outside and pretty much replace it, so she should just do that instead of getting herself tangled up with USCF's paralyzing bureaucracy. |
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On May 21, 9:16 pm, samsloan wrote:
If Susan Polgar wants to organize her own tournament in Lubbock, Texas and call it the "Susan Polgar Tournament of High School Champions" and award scholarships to Texas Tech University, everybody will applaud. Nobody will object. However, what she is trying to do here is taking a long established tournament, the Denker Tournament of High School Championships, grabbing it away from the USCF and converting it into a Polgar tournament. Sam I do not follow your leaps in logic. She was asked by members of the Denker family to do this so as to associate it more closely with SPICE. If Arnold Denker were alive today, he would be appalled. He would never stand for this. Maybe, maybe not. I think his family is better suited to know what was on his mind. Similarly, by holding a "Susan Polgar World Open" and a "Susan Polgar National Open" she is infringing on the real World Open and the real National Open. No. It is feared that next she will be trying to take over the big USCF scholastic events. For example, she could take the National Elementary Championship and call it the Susan Polgar National Elementary Championship. Who fears it Sam? And, she has not even been elected yet. Imagine what havoc she will cause if she actually gets elected and is still doing these things? Sam Sloan Yeah? Something might actually get done and that would make others really look bad,wouldn't it? Rob |
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includes me. We can replace him any time we want and possibly will replace him, unless this matter is straightened out. Sam Sloan |
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"samsloan" wrote in message oups.com... If Susan Polgar wants to organize her own tournament in Lubbock, Texas and call it the "Susan Polgar Tournament of High School Champions" and award scholarships to Texas Tech University, everybody will applaud. Nobody will object. However, what she is trying to do here is taking a long established tournament, the Denker Tournament of High School Championships, grabbing it away from the USCF and converting it into a Polgar tournament. If Arnold Denker were alive today, he would be appalled. He would never stand for this. O, ARNOLD, I HARDLY KNEW YE Good Grief! I didn't know Arnold /very/ well, but he liked to write to me, quite often out of the blue and with his own volunteered emphasis, so I think I knew him /enough/. What he would want, as far as I can measure, is for some chess to be played, and since in this instance the issues are (a) the Denker name is not to removed or changed (b) that the best location for continuation of the Denker is at issue, and (c) the Denker approached Paul Truong to investigate location, not the other way around (d) that USCF has itself [!] claimed to 'own' the Denker [!] while (e) failing to fund it so that other than rich kids can attend, and (f) can't match other offers that would /substantially/ fund the Denker so that (g) the best young players could take part Well... I think I have a fair sense of what Arnold would like with his own bequest to the nation! And clearly, what anyone would like is not always achieveable, but the art of business management is the ability to negotiate the real world of the possible - here are the options:- Here we seem to have two levels of possibility; a better than current one, matched against a theoretical and declining one. --- A GOOD DEBATE? The rest of this is about ownership and control, and chess-as-property, not an address to what benefits the kids or public exposure to the game - which many people think is why USCF was established. On that topic, not a word! It would be fair to compare the two - and that at least would provide a good debate. The fiddle-faddle argument about names is brought to you by the same outfit who allied the Berry name to the national championship ~ that, apparently, is not any issue, even though the national championship is still scandalously underfunded - how IRONIC that funding Scholastic levels championships with the Denker and the Polgar - with AS MUCH - money should be resented! This is nothing to do with Mr. Berry as a sponsor, nor is it any criticism of him. Why should other sponsors of chess not have their names attached to events? They do everywhere else in the world, even unto Aeroflot. Though sometimes the name is second to the title... this is all a red herring! A shoal of 'em! --- When such spectacularly spun commentary emerges, without any real comparision to what USCF can provide, what we can sensily debate is a COMPARISON. And as with issues of public decency of expression, we can do that on the basis of Who Benefits or Who is Affronted - which is to say about the Denker - which is better from the perspective of the... PARTICIPANTS RIGHTS If USCF politicos cannot compete at this level of dialog and management praxis to promote the best foundation for the future of chess in this country as vested in its young players, they should give it up! But resenting people who can do better is nothing other than whining about something lost and for which the nation no longer invests its confidence in USCF. That 'vote' already seems in, and people have voted with their feet, and walked away from the mess of control-intrigues which continue, apparently indifferent to what further us. Phil Innes Similarly, by holding a "Susan Polgar World Open" and a "Susan Polgar National Open" she is infringing on the real World Open and the real National Open. It is feared that next she will be trying to take over the big USCF scholastic events. For example, she could take the National Elementary Championship and call it the Susan Polgar National Elementary Championship. And, she has not even been elected yet. Imagine what havoc she will cause if she actually gets elected and is still doing these things? Sam Sloan |
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On May 22, 3:47 am, samsloan wrote:
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The Denker Committee Chairman was appointed by the USCF Board, which includes me. We can replace him any time we want and possibly will replace him, unless this matter is straightened out. Sam Sloan Who is the organizer for the US Open? |
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PROPERTIES DISCUSSED
Good post, Gerry (you lurker, you!) You have it 99 percent right -- all except that "free entry to the US Open" part. There is small stipend to each player for completing the event (which I suppose might equal the EFs of prior US Opens, when the EF was under $100). If I were a player in the Denker...why would I want to go to a separate location...when I could lobby my folks to take me to a much larger chess festival (US Open)? Your post lays out some really good points: 1. The Denker event was always conceived as being part of the US Open 2. It has been held that way for 2 decades and is cost-effective. What it was, and what it is now, is very open to question and comparison! And cost-effective means, of course, for USCF, not the players. 3. It is undeniably a USCF property -- as administered by USCF under Arnold's guiding hand prior to his passing There is no gain for USCF to allow the event to be separated from the US Open..and I say that as someone who used to attend to the details of the event. PERCENTAGES, COMPARED And there you have it! The subject is completely divorced from its organisational function. Not a single word from either Gerry Dullea, to whom Eric Johnson is praising, or the Delegate himself, on what best supports the chess player. 100% of these messages are about what is best for USCF. 0% of comments have considered why the Denker want to investigate anything! From my vantage point, this is another example of a weak USCF board allowing committees to have too much power in the system. Yes, committees are good for attending to details. But without a strong hand over them...you get the sense that eventually the longstanding committee chairs think they have complete say over their areas. WHO'S RANTING? Eric, Mr. Marketing, Johnson has now subscribed an investigation to 'complete say'. You would almost think that it was Eric and Gerry here who wanted 'complete say', no? As if they had absolutely no curiosity why an investigation is taking place, and somehow investigations of the quality of the Denker = complete control. Someone on the board needs to alert the Denker committee that this "exploratory move" is not in the best interests of the USCF (owner of the property)...and that this is true regardless of how much time and money others have invested in the property up to now. QUALITY CONTROL PROBLEM I agree that someone on the board needs to alert Denker committee to these opinions. There is absolutely no way that Arnold could have joined this discussion without taking the perspective of the chess player into account - and indeed - is that not the central issue here? Who is even going to look at it? Some people think that if you do own things, then there is a concommitant level of responsibility that goes with it. If there /is/ a current problem, who is going to 'own' that? )))WE OWN IT! The quality of the experience of the players is in question for everyone except USCF right-or-wrong we-own-it, types, which is so infamous a form of argument, it does not deserve response, since the WELFARE of those taking part is not owned as a topic even worth noting! Something is wrong, and you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Johnson? Phil Innes Vermont ECJ |
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