Phil

You wrote

In the meantime, I challenge anyone actually interested in what I wrote to
note the high interest in subjects to do with children, and utter taboo on
anything to do with themselves: and if there is anyone out there who works
in the social sciences you will know what this means.
Phil Innes

I accuse Bill Hall, USCF Executive Director and USCF President
Goichberg of COVERING UP the molestation of children like the Catholic
Church. That is, members such as Sam Sloan (a convicted kidnapper who
served prison time) use his position to attempt to have sexual
intercourse with minor children at chess tournaments. This behavior is
supported by a pro homosexual crowd. The lack of background checks in
scholastic volenteers demonstrates that the Executive Committee, Susan
Polar included, wants to use children as sex objects.

Former USCF Delegates such as Sutter are CONVICTED SEX OFFENDERS.

Former Executive Board member GM Albert was suspected of problems with
children while in office, similar to Sam Sloan.

Let's set the record straight: the USCF is run by a gay liberal group
of people who want to use children as sex toys in the name of chess.

Let's further DESTORY the 501c4 corporate entity, known as the USCF,
and replace it with a 501c3 entity.

You can't talk about children in chess without talking about
HOMOSEXUALITY and the pro gay support that Hall supports to teach
children to be GAY.

I am trying not to gay bash, but I will if forced.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
former USCF Vice President

wrote in message
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Phil

Hi Marcus

You wrote

In the meantime, I challenge anyone actually interested in what I wrote
to
note the high interest in subjects to do with children, and utter taboo
on
anything to do with themselves: and if there is anyone out there who
works
in the social sciences you will know what this means.
Phil Innes

I accuse Bill Hall, USCF Executive Director and USCF President
Goichberg of COVERING UP the molestation of children like the Catholic
Church. That is, members such as Sam Sloan (a convicted kidnapper who
served prison time) use his position to attempt to have sexual
intercourse with minor children at chess tournaments. This behavior is
supported by a pro homosexual crowd. The lack of background checks in
scholastic volenteers demonstrates that the Executive Committee, Susan
Polar included, wants to use children as sex objects.

Former USCF Delegates such as Sutter are CONVICTED SEX OFFENDERS.

Just to make a comment at this point: the idea of any Standard is that it
shall apply to all people, and be conducted impartially. The standard I
suggested is the normal one, and not even very stringent.

What is otherwise said or thought is less reliable than a standard
background check which also takes into account the relationship to the
person investigated of those consulted.

While I am not at all certain than any of these people are as you say - in
our society we do have a growing problem with illegal sexual predatory
activity concerning young people, and I think this must be noticed as well
as that there is nothing in particular to recommend chess as any sort of
exemption from this scrutiny.

There has been problems with church groups concerning children [not only
Catholics, BTW], and with Boy Scouts, and even Little League. One
organisation I work with said that in California 50% of their applicants are
rejected as not suitable mentors for children. A shrink friend says
[ironically] that in England 50% of child abuse is conducted by males [his
irony is males get all the bad press, but obviously the other 50% are
females!] Gay couples [male or female] are, for example, proportionally
/less/ likely to be sexually abuse than heterosexual couples, but only a bit
less, and certainly cannot be exempted.

Each of these groups above have now adopted voluntary measures above the
legal minimum requirement as a response to the Dark Side of this medium, the
internet, where so much more salicious material is now available, publishing
from relatively secure anonymity.

The implication for chess is that /without/ some level of self-screening,
such access as we may have to mainstream education will be impossible if it
is to involve the chess community. It is not my opinion that prominent
individuals need screening, since, also very evident in these matters, is
that abuse is as likely to occur from those in the closet as those people
who excite these subjects - even sometimes from those who want to repress
others' expression on these topics because it excites them, and they fear
their own reactions.

This point of view is rarely admitted as a fact by those with personal fear
of this subject, OR those who express it in the first place as being their
responsibility for exciting unwonted passions in others, yet the
relationship seems clearly established between these factors.

This is why, IMO, the subject is worth exploring, in sober fashion, and for
everyone having to do with children in chess. First of all we have to admit
there is a problem.

Cordially, Phil Innes

Former Executive Board member GM Albert was suspected of problems with
children while in office, similar to Sam Sloan.

Let's set the record straight: the USCF is run by a gay liberal group
of people who want to use children as sex toys in the name of chess.

Let's further DESTORY the 501c4 corporate entity, known as the USCF,
and replace it with a 501c3 entity.

You can't talk about children in chess without talking about
HOMOSEXUALITY and the pro gay support that Hall supports to teach
children to be GAY.

I am trying not to gay bash, but I will if forced.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
former USCF Vice President

On Jun 28, 9:14 am, "Chess One" wrote:
wrote in message

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Phil

Hi Marcus





You wrote

In the meantime, I challenge anyone actually interested in what I wrote
to
note the high interest in subjects to do with children, and utter taboo
on
anything to do with themselves: and if there is anyone out there who
works
in the social sciences you will know what this means.
Phil Innes

I accuse Bill Hall, USCF Executive Director and USCF President
Goichberg of COVERING UP the molestation of children like the Catholic
Church. That is, members such as Sam Sloan (a convicted kidnapper who
served prison time) use his position to attempt to have sexual
intercourse with minor children at chess tournaments. This behavior is
supported by a pro homosexual crowd. The lack of background checks in
scholastic volenteers demonstrates that the Executive Committee, Susan
Polar included, wants to use children as sex objects.

Former USCF Delegates such as Sutter are CONVICTED SEX OFFENDERS.

Just to make a comment at this point: the idea of any Standard is that it
shall apply to all people, and be conducted impartially. The standard I
suggested is the normal one, and not even very stringent.

What is otherwise said or thought is less reliable than a standard
background check which also takes into account the relationship to the
person investigated of those consulted.

While I am not at all certain than any of these people are as you say - in
our society we do have a growing problem with illegal sexual predatory
activity concerning young people, and I think this must be noticed as well
as that there is nothing in particular to recommend chess as any sort of
exemption from this scrutiny.

There has been problems with church groups concerning children [not only
Catholics, BTW], and with Boy Scouts, and even Little League. One
organisation I work with said that in California 50% of their applicants are
rejected as not suitable mentors for children. A shrink friend says
[ironically] that in England 50% of child abuse is conducted by males [his
irony is males get all the bad press, but obviously the other 50% are
females!] Gay couples [male or female] are, for example, proportionally
/less/ likely to be sexually abuse than heterosexual couples, but only a bit
less, and certainly cannot be exempted.

Each of these groups above have now adopted voluntary measures above the
legal minimum requirement as a response to the Dark Side of this medium, the
internet, where so much more salicious material is now available, publishing
from relatively secure anonymity.

The implication for chess is that /without/ some level of self-screening,
such access as we may have to mainstream education will be impossible if it
is to involve the chess community. It is not my opinion that prominent
individuals need screening, since, also very evident in these matters, is
that abuse is as likely to occur from those in the closet as those people
who excite these subjects - even sometimes from those who want to repress
others' expression on these topics because it excites them, and they fear
their own reactions.

This point of view is rarely admitted as a fact by those with personal fear
of this subject, OR those who express it in the first place as being their
responsibility for exciting unwonted passions in others, yet the
relationship seems clearly established between these factors.

This is why, IMO, the subject is worth exploring, in sober fashion, and for
everyone having to do with children in chess. First of all we have to admit
there is a problem.

Cordially, Phil Innes



Former Executive Board member GM Albert was suspected of problems with
children while in office, similar to Sam Sloan.

Let's set the record straight: the USCF is run by a gay liberal group
of people who want to use children as sex toys in the name of chess.

Let's further DESTORY the 501c4 corporate entity, known as the USCF,
and replace it with a 501c3 entity.

You can't talk about children in chess without talking about
HOMOSEXUALITY and the pro gay support that Hall supports to teach
children to be GAY.

I am trying not to gay bash, but I will if forced.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE
former USCF Vice President- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -Phil

On St Kitts and Nevis, we can't even self screen. We must accept CHILD
MOLESTERS, appointed by FIDE, in order to join.

The real problem is that both I and my the President of the St Kitts
and Nevis National Olympic Committee (Mr. Bridgewater) were clearly
OFFENDED at these FIDE officials (Bill Kelleher) DEMANDING that

1. St Kitts and Nevis set up a scholastic chess program, as a
requirement for admission to FIDE
2. I issue illegal visits to Olympiads for illegal aliens as a
requirement for admission to FIDE, some of whom could be children.
These VISAS are sold on the open market as a ticket to illegal
immigration, for lots of money.
3. St Kitts and Nevis accepts that FIDE has a right to strip our
children naked and watch them pea.

We - in St Kitts and Nevis - don't want to be told by FIDE how to
start a national chess federation. I have no interest in giving the
folks from Barbados a chance to fly over to our country and STRIP our
children naked. It is offensive to our sovereignty. Chess is not a
chance to turn our children queer.

Before we admit a problem, look at the DEMANDS from Kirsan
Ilyumzhinov, President of FIDE. (above, #1, #2, #3). When I refused,
Kirsan tried to THROW ME IN JAIL and now has REFUSED US ADMISSION.

We will not tolerate the molestation of our children for the greater
glory of FIDE

The problem is HUGE, to the extent that my government has doubts about
joining a "family" of people who fly to our island, and DEMAND that
our children become sexual objects.

I take offense to the FIDE "family's" demands.. Kirsan is in bed with
so many pro homosexual interests he does not realize that the reason
the Caribbean is the most underdeveloped part of the planet Earth for
Chess is the sexual demands of FIDE.

I will not allow our children to be molested. We refuse to implement a
scholastic chess program, as FIDE has requested our government.

Let me say it: HELL NO to scholastic chess. The problem is TOO GREAT.

In my personal view, I do not object to homosexuality. I do object
when children are TAUGHT that being homosexual is ok. It is
inappropriate to use the game of chess as a pro homosexual sounding
board.

The arrogance of both American and FIDE officials is directly
proportional to the number of closet homosexuals in office. I support
a man or woman's right to choose their sexual orientation. I do not
support this game to turn our children QUEER.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of ST Kitts and Nevis to FIDE

wrote in message
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On St Kitts and Nevis, we can't even self screen. We must accept CHILD
MOLESTERS, appointed by FIDE, in order to join.

Marcus, I ask a question about this lower down.

The real problem is that both I and my the President of the St Kitts
and Nevis National Olympic Committee (Mr. Bridgewater) were clearly
OFFENDED at these FIDE officials (Bill Kelleher) DEMANDING that

1. St Kitts and Nevis set up a scholastic chess program, as a
requirement for admission to FIDE

Is this the same use of 'scholastics' as in USA? Here it means a chess club
in a public or private school. In all public schools there is a federal
mandate to conduct background checks on teachers, and also on coaches, even
if they are part-time and unpaid and after hours. Is this the same where you
are?

2. I issue illegal visits to Olympiads for illegal aliens as a
requirement for admission to FIDE, some of whom could be children.
These VISAS are sold on the open market as a ticket to illegal
immigration, for lots of money.

Strange! Is there a normal residency requirement on Kitts and Nevis to
become a citizen? What does the law think about this?

3. St Kitts and Nevis accepts that FIDE has a right to strip our
children naked and watch them pea.

This would be for the drug-testing requirement. I understand 3 things about
this;

(a) I thought Fide had stated that they would not drug-test children? Is
there a new change in these rules? The situation is so confused that some
time ago I interviewed the American chiropractor who was a proponent of drug
testing procedures, a Dr. Press, at Chessville - actually, we offered him an
op-ed piece.

(b) I also understood that the USCF has said that no testing should take
place on American soil. I have not seen the wording of this declaration, nor
understand if it - and I think this is important now - includes Fide-rated
tournaments not organised by USCF taking place on American soil. [As you
know, Fide are now to hold tournaments here which include ratings down to
1000 [?]. In trying to get answers from USCF, I was able to gain with Bill
Hall an agreement to have press conferences every 2 months so these issues
could be clarified and better understood. Unfortunetely I think Mr. Hall has
been shut-up, so from my own knowledge I can't assure you on these issues.

(c) Larry Parr has pointed out for several years that the wishes of the USCF
delegates [supported by the board] have not seen to be in accord with the
actions of Fide delegates - in fact, these 'representatives' have been seen
to actually promote drug-testing here. Questions on these issues have been
raised by Parr, and also GM Evans and GM Seriwan particualrly, but Silence
has been the Stern Reply!

Therefore, what sort of assurance can I give you of what actually will
happen here in the United States, even though popular opinion seems to think
drug testing is utter nonsense?

We - in St Kitts and Nevis - don't want to be told by FIDE how to
start a national chess federation. I have no interest in giving the
folks from Barbados a chance to fly over to our country and STRIP our
children naked. It is offensive to our sovereignty. Chess is not a
chance to turn our children queer.

Let me go back to the top - {since what follows would merely be my opinion,
which is of no consequence to any program to the welfare of children in
chess, nor who should administer them - these issues are covered to large
degree by the laws of the country.}

The issue seems to be a necessity to create a scholatics program - and I
assume this has some minimum dimensions, that it is held in a school with at
least one teacher/mentor, and at least one student. Voila! A program. What
threshold does Fide want above this? Are you also saying that you have no
control of such a mentor or would not be assured by normal /scholastic/
rules as in the US, that this may not be an appropriate person?

A last note - Nigel Short wrote a criticism last week of Fide in Africa, and
of evident corruption and lack of support for the entire continent. Is it
possible for you to ally with the Commonwealth Chess Association instead of
Fide? N. Short is head of it at the moment, and I recently made him some
introudctions in other parts of the 'third word', in India especially. He
was attentive.

Cordially, Phil Innes



Before we admit a problem, look at the DEMANDS from Kirsan
Ilyumzhinov, President of FIDE. (above, #1, #2, #3). When I refused,
Kirsan tried to THROW ME IN JAIL and now has REFUSED US ADMISSION.

We will not tolerate the molestation of our children for the greater
glory of FIDE

The problem is HUGE, to the extent that my government has doubts about
joining a "family" of people who fly to our island, and DEMAND that
our children become sexual objects.

I take offense to the FIDE "family's" demands.. Kirsan is in bed with
so many pro homosexual interests he does not realize that the reason
the Caribbean is the most underdeveloped part of the planet Earth for
Chess is the sexual demands of FIDE.

I will not allow our children to be molested. We refuse to implement a
scholastic chess program, as FIDE has requested our government.

Let me say it: HELL NO to scholastic chess. The problem is TOO GREAT.

In my personal view, I do not object to homosexuality. I do object
when children are TAUGHT that being homosexual is ok. It is
inappropriate to use the game of chess as a pro homosexual sounding
board.

The arrogance of both American and FIDE officials is directly
proportional to the number of closet homosexuals in office. I support
a man or woman's right to choose their sexual orientation. I do not
support this game to turn our children QUEER.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of ST Kitts and Nevis to FIDE

On Jun 29, 9:22 am, "Chess One" wrote:
wrote in message

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On St Kitts and Nevis, we can't even self screen. We must accept CHILD
MOLESTERS, appointed by FIDE, in order to join.

Marcus, I ask a question about this lower down.

The real problem is that both I and my the President of the St Kitts
and Nevis National Olympic Committee (Mr. Bridgewater) were clearly
OFFENDED at these FIDE officials (Bill Kelleher) DEMANDING that

1. St Kitts and Nevis set up a scholastic chess program, as a
requirement for admission to FIDE

Is this the same use of 'scholastics' as in USA? Here it means a chess club
in a public or private school. In all public schools there is a federal
mandate to conduct background checks on teachers, and also on coaches, even
if they are part-time and unpaid and after hours. Is this the same where you
are?

2. I issue illegal visits to Olympiads for illegal aliens as a
requirement for admission to FIDE, some of whom could be children.
These VISAS are sold on the open market as a ticket to illegal
immigration, for lots of money.

Strange! Is there a normal residency requirement on Kitts and Nevis to
become a citizen? What does the law think about this?

3. St Kitts and Nevis accepts that FIDE has a right to strip our
children naked and watch them pea.

This would be for the drug-testing requirement. I understand 3 things about
this;

(a) I thought Fide had stated that they would not drug-test children? Is
there a new change in these rules? The situation is so confused that some
time ago I interviewed the American chiropractor who was a proponent of drug
testing procedures, a Dr. Press, at Chessville - actually, we offered him an
op-ed piece.

(b) I also understood that the USCF has said that no testing should take
place on American soil. I have not seen the wording of this declaration, nor
understand if it - and I think this is important now - includes Fide-rated
tournaments not organised by USCF taking place on American soil. [As you
know, Fide are now to hold tournaments here which include ratings down to
1000 [?]. In trying to get answers from USCF, I was able to gain with Bill
Hall an agreement to have press conferences every 2 months so these issues
could be clarified and better understood. Unfortunetely I think Mr. Hall has
been shut-up, so from my own knowledge I can't assure you on these issues.

(c) Larry Parr has pointed out for several years that the wishes of the USCF
delegates [supported by the board] have not seen to be in accord with the
actions of Fide delegates - in fact, these 'representatives' have been seen
to actually promote drug-testing here. Questions on these issues have been
raised by Parr, and also GM Evans and GM Seriwan particualrly, but Silence
has been the Stern Reply!

Therefore, what sort of assurance can I give you of what actually will
happen here in the United States, even though popular opinion seems to think
drug testing is utter nonsense?

We - in St Kitts and Nevis - don't want to be told by FIDE how to
start a national chess federation. I have no interest in giving the
folks from Barbados a chance to fly over to our country and STRIP our
children naked. It is offensive to our sovereignty. Chess is not a
chance to turn our children queer.

Let me go back to the top - {since what follows would merely be my opinion,
which is of no consequence to any program to the welfare of children in
chess, nor who should administer them - these issues are covered to large
degree by the laws of the country.}

The issue seems to be a necessity to create a scholatics program - and I
assume this has some minimum dimensions, that it is held in a school with at
least one teacher/mentor, and at least one student. Voila! A program. What
threshold does Fide want above this? Are you also saying that you have no
control of such a mentor or would not be assured by normal /scholastic/
rules as in the US, that this may not be an appropriate person?

A last note - Nigel Short wrote a criticism last week of Fide in Africa, and
of evident corruption and lack of support for the entire continent. Is it
possible for you to ally with the Commonwealth Chess Association instead of
Fide? N. Short is head of it at the moment, and I recently made him some
introudctions in other parts of the 'third word', in India especially. He
was attentive.

Cordially, Phil Innes



Before we admit a problem, look at the DEMANDS from Kirsan
Ilyumzhinov, President of FIDE. (above, #1, #2, #3). When I refused,
Kirsan tried to THROW ME IN JAIL and now has REFUSED US ADMISSION.

We will not tolerate the molestation of our children for the greater
glory of FIDE

The problem is HUGE, to the extent that my government has doubts about
joining a "family" of people who fly to our island, and DEMAND that
our children become sexual objects.

I take offense to the FIDE "family's" demands.. Kirsan is in bed with
so many pro homosexual interests he does not realize that the reason
the Caribbean is the most underdeveloped part of the planet Earth for
Chess is the sexual demands of FIDE.

I will not allow our children to be molested. We refuse to implement a
scholastic chess program, as FIDE has requested our government.

Let me say it: HELL NO to scholastic chess. The problem is TOO GREAT.

In my personal view, I do not object to homosexuality. I do object
when children are TAUGHT that being homosexual is ok. It is
inappropriate to use the game of chess as a pro homosexual sounding
board.

The arrogance of both American and FIDE officials is directly
proportional to the number of closet homosexuals in office. I support
a man or woman's right to choose their sexual orientation. I do not
support this game to turn our children QUEER.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of ST Kitts and Nevis to FIDE- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My St Kitts and Nevis passport number is R0017871. With commonwealth
citizenship, I have a right to run for the House of Commons. No
residency requirment.

Let me answer the other question in a seperate post.

Marcus Roberts

On Jun 29, 9:22 am, "Chess One" wrote:
wrote in message

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On St Kitts and Nevis, we can't even self screen. We must accept CHILD
MOLESTERS, appointed by FIDE, in order to join.

Marcus, I ask a question about this lower down.

The real problem is that both I and my the President of the St Kitts
and Nevis National Olympic Committee (Mr. Bridgewater) were clearly
OFFENDED at these FIDE officials (Bill Kelleher) DEMANDING that

1. St Kitts and Nevis set up a scholastic chess program, as a
requirement for admission to FIDE

Is this the same use of 'scholastics' as in USA? Here it means a chess club
in a public or private school. In all public schools there is a federal
mandate to conduct background checks on teachers, and also on coaches, even
if they are part-time and unpaid and after hours. Is this the same where you
are?

2. I issue illegal visits to Olympiads for illegal aliens as a
requirement for admission to FIDE, some of whom could be children.
These VISAS are sold on the open market as a ticket to illegal
immigration, for lots of money.

Strange! Is there a normal residency requirement on Kitts and Nevis to
become a citizen? What does the law think about this?

3. St Kitts and Nevis accepts that FIDE has a right to strip our
children naked and watch them pea.

This would be for the drug-testing requirement. I understand 3 things about
this;

(a) I thought Fide had stated that they would not drug-test children? Is
there a new change in these rules? The situation is so confused that some
time ago I interviewed the American chiropractor who was a proponent of drug
testing procedures, a Dr. Press, at Chessville - actually, we offered him an
op-ed piece.

(b) I also understood that the USCF has said that no testing should take
place on American soil. I have not seen the wording of this declaration, nor
understand if it - and I think this is important now - includes Fide-rated
tournaments not organised by USCF taking place on American soil. [As you
know, Fide are now to hold tournaments here which include ratings down to
1000 [?]. In trying to get answers from USCF, I was able to gain with Bill
Hall an agreement to have press conferences every 2 months so these issues
could be clarified and better understood. Unfortunetely I think Mr. Hall has
been shut-up, so from my own knowledge I can't assure you on these issues.

(c) Larry Parr has pointed out for several years that the wishes of the USCF
delegates [supported by the board] have not seen to be in accord with the
actions of Fide delegates - in fact, these 'representatives' have been seen
to actually promote drug-testing here. Questions on these issues have been
raised by Parr, and also GM Evans and GM Seriwan particualrly, but Silence
has been the Stern Reply!

Therefore, what sort of assurance can I give you of what actually will
happen here in the United States, even though popular opinion seems to think
drug testing is utter nonsense?

We - in St Kitts and Nevis - don't want to be told by FIDE how to
start a national chess federation. I have no interest in giving the
folks from Barbados a chance to fly over to our country and STRIP our
children naked. It is offensive to our sovereignty. Chess is not a
chance to turn our children queer.

Let me go back to the top - {since what follows would merely be my opinion,
which is of no consequence to any program to the welfare of children in
chess, nor who should administer them - these issues are covered to large
degree by the laws of the country.}

The issue seems to be a necessity to create a scholatics program - and I
assume this has some minimum dimensions, that it is held in a school with at
least one teacher/mentor, and at least one student. Voila! A program. What
threshold does Fide want above this? Are you also saying that you have no
control of such a mentor or would not be assured by normal /scholastic/
rules as in the US, that this may not be an appropriate person?

A last note - Nigel Short wrote a criticism last week of Fide in Africa, and
of evident corruption and lack of support for the entire continent. Is it
possible for you to ally with the Commonwealth Chess Association instead of
Fide? N. Short is head of it at the moment, and I recently made him some
introudctions in other parts of the 'third word', in India especially. He
was attentive.

Cordially, Phil Innes



Before we admit a problem, look at the DEMANDS from Kirsan
Ilyumzhinov, President of FIDE. (above, #1, #2, #3). When I refused,
Kirsan tried to THROW ME IN JAIL and now has REFUSED US ADMISSION.

We will not tolerate the molestation of our children for the greater
glory of FIDE

The problem is HUGE, to the extent that my government has doubts about
joining a "family" of people who fly to our island, and DEMAND that
our children become sexual objects.

I take offense to the FIDE "family's" demands.. Kirsan is in bed with
so many pro homosexual interests he does not realize that the reason
the Caribbean is the most underdeveloped part of the planet Earth for
Chess is the sexual demands of FIDE.

I will not allow our children to be molested. We refuse to implement a
scholastic chess program, as FIDE has requested our government.

Let me say it: HELL NO to scholastic chess. The problem is TOO GREAT.

In my personal view, I do not object to homosexuality. I do object
when children are TAUGHT that being homosexual is ok. It is
inappropriate to use the game of chess as a pro homosexual sounding
board.

The arrogance of both American and FIDE officials is directly
proportional to the number of closet homosexuals in office. I support
a man or woman's right to choose their sexual orientation. I do not
support this game to turn our children QUEER.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of ST Kitts and Nevis to FIDE- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Is this the same use of 'scholastics' as in USA? Here it means a chess
club
in a public or private school. In all public schools there is a
federal
mandate to conduct background checks on teachers, and also on coaches,
even
if they are part-time and unpaid and after hours. Is this the same
where you
are?

St Kitts and Nevis has no developed chess. There are a few informal
players, but now they are all afraid of the National Olympic Committee
on St Kitits and Neivis when Kellher tried to get me thrown in jail.
Essentially, chess players have no identity on St Kitts and Nevis,
which is why my views on homosexuality are so important.

On Jun 29, 9:22 am, "Chess One" wrote:
wrote in message

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On St Kitts and Nevis, we can't even self screen. We must accept CHILD
MOLESTERS, appointed by FIDE, in order to join.

Marcus, I ask a question about this lower down.

The real problem is that both I and my the President of the St Kitts
and Nevis National Olympic Committee (Mr. Bridgewater) were clearly
OFFENDED at these FIDE officials (Bill Kelleher) DEMANDING that

1. St Kitts and Nevis set up a scholastic chess program, as a
requirement for admission to FIDE

Is this the same use of 'scholastics' as in USA? Here it means a chess club
in a public or private school. In all public schools there is a federal
mandate to conduct background checks on teachers, and also on coaches, even
if they are part-time and unpaid and after hours. Is this the same where you
are?

2. I issue illegal visits to Olympiads for illegal aliens as a
requirement for admission to FIDE, some of whom could be children.
These VISAS are sold on the open market as a ticket to illegal
immigration, for lots of money.

Strange! Is there a normal residency requirement on Kitts and Nevis to
become a citizen? What does the law think about this?

3. St Kitts and Nevis accepts that FIDE has a right to strip our
children naked and watch them pea.

This would be for the drug-testing requirement. I understand 3 things about
this;

(a) I thought Fide had stated that they would not drug-test children? Is
there a new change in these rules? The situation is so confused that some
time ago I interviewed the American chiropractor who was a proponent of drug
testing procedures, a Dr. Press, at Chessville - actually, we offered him an
op-ed piece.

(b) I also understood that the USCF has said that no testing should take
place on American soil. I have not seen the wording of this declaration, nor
understand if it - and I think this is important now - includes Fide-rated
tournaments not organised by USCF taking place on American soil. [As you
know, Fide are now to hold tournaments here which include ratings down to
1000 [?]. In trying to get answers from USCF, I was able to gain with Bill
Hall an agreement to have press conferences every 2 months so these issues
could be clarified and better understood. Unfortunetely I think Mr. Hall has
been shut-up, so from my own knowledge I can't assure you on these issues.

(c) Larry Parr has pointed out for several years that the wishes of the USCF
delegates [supported by the board] have not seen to be in accord with the
actions of Fide delegates - in fact, these 'representatives' have been seen
to actually promote drug-testing here. Questions on these issues have been
raised by Parr, and also GM Evans and GM Seriwan particualrly, but Silence
has been the Stern Reply!

Therefore, what sort of assurance can I give you of what actually will
happen here in the United States, even though popular opinion seems to think
drug testing is utter nonsense?

We - in St Kitts and Nevis - don't want to be told by FIDE how to
start a national chess federation. I have no interest in giving the
folks from Barbados a chance to fly over to our country and STRIP our
children naked. It is offensive to our sovereignty. Chess is not a
chance to turn our children queer.

Let me go back to the top - {since what follows would merely be my opinion,
which is of no consequence to any program to the welfare of children in
chess, nor who should administer them - these issues are covered to large
degree by the laws of the country.}

The issue seems to be a necessity to create a scholatics program - and I
assume this has some minimum dimensions, that it is held in a school with at
least one teacher/mentor, and at least one student. Voila! A program. What
threshold does Fide want above this? Are you also saying that you have no
control of such a mentor or would not be assured by normal /scholastic/
rules as in the US, that this may not be an appropriate person?

A last note - Nigel Short wrote a criticism last week of Fide in Africa, and
of evident corruption and lack of support for the entire continent. Is it
possible for you to ally with the Commonwealth Chess Association instead of
Fide? N. Short is head of it at the moment, and I recently made him some
introudctions in other parts of the 'third word', in India especially. He
was attentive.

Cordially, Phil Innes



Before we admit a problem, look at the DEMANDS from Kirsan
Ilyumzhinov, President of FIDE. (above, #1, #2, #3). When I refused,
Kirsan tried to THROW ME IN JAIL and now has REFUSED US ADMISSION.

We will not tolerate the molestation of our children for the greater
glory of FIDE

The problem is HUGE, to the extent that my government has doubts about
joining a "family" of people who fly to our island, and DEMAND that
our children become sexual objects.

I take offense to the FIDE "family's" demands.. Kirsan is in bed with
so many pro homosexual interests he does not realize that the reason
the Caribbean is the most underdeveloped part of the planet Earth for
Chess is the sexual demands of FIDE.

I will not allow our children to be molested. We refuse to implement a
scholastic chess program, as FIDE has requested our government.

Let me say it: HELL NO to scholastic chess. The problem is TOO GREAT.

In my personal view, I do not object to homosexuality. I do object
when children are TAUGHT that being homosexual is ok. It is
inappropriate to use the game of chess as a pro homosexual sounding
board.

The arrogance of both American and FIDE officials is directly
proportional to the number of closet homosexuals in office. I support
a man or woman's right to choose their sexual orientation. I do not
support this game to turn our children QUEER.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of ST Kitts and Nevis to FIDE- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A last note - Nigel Short wrote a criticism last week of Fide in
Africa, and
of evident corruption and lack of support for the entire continent. Is
it
possible for you to ally with the Commonwealth Chess Association
instead of
Fide? N. Short is head of it at the moment, and I recently made him
some
introudctions in other parts of the 'third word', in India especially.
He
was attentive.

The floks in the CCA are trying for FIDE seating themselves. Short was
quite short with me and does not want to be quoted. I speak for the
Commonwealth in a literal sense as a Ctizen of St Kitts Nevis and the
only public chessplayer. Short will not risk any political capital on
me. He did ask for my support, and didn't want to help me.

Marcus Roberts

On Jun 29, 9:22 am, "Chess One" wrote:
wrote in message

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On St Kitts and Nevis, we can't even self screen. We must accept CHILD
MOLESTERS, appointed by FIDE, in order to join.

Marcus, I ask a question about this lower down.

The real problem is that both I and my the President of the St Kitts
and Nevis National Olympic Committee (Mr. Bridgewater) were clearly
OFFENDED at these FIDE officials (Bill Kelleher) DEMANDING that

1. St Kitts and Nevis set up a scholastic chess program, as a
requirement for admission to FIDE

Is this the same use of 'scholastics' as in USA? Here it means a chess club
in a public or private school. In all public schools there is a federal
mandate to conduct background checks on teachers, and also on coaches, even
if they are part-time and unpaid and after hours. Is this the same where you
are?

2. I issue illegal visits to Olympiads for illegal aliens as a
requirement for admission to FIDE, some of whom could be children.
These VISAS are sold on the open market as a ticket to illegal
immigration, for lots of money.

Strange! Is there a normal residency requirement on Kitts and Nevis to
become a citizen? What does the law think about this?

3. St Kitts and Nevis accepts that FIDE has a right to strip our
children naked and watch them pea.

This would be for the drug-testing requirement. I understand 3 things about
this;

(a) I thought Fide had stated that they would not drug-test children? Is
there a new change in these rules? The situation is so confused that some
time ago I interviewed the American chiropractor who was a proponent of drug
testing procedures, a Dr. Press, at Chessville - actually, we offered him an
op-ed piece.

(b) I also understood that the USCF has said that no testing should take
place on American soil. I have not seen the wording of this declaration, nor
understand if it - and I think this is important now - includes Fide-rated
tournaments not organised by USCF taking place on American soil. [As you
know, Fide are now to hold tournaments here which include ratings down to
1000 [?]. In trying to get answers from USCF, I was able to gain with Bill
Hall an agreement to have press conferences every 2 months so these issues
could be clarified and better understood. Unfortunetely I think Mr. Hall has
been shut-up, so from my own knowledge I can't assure you on these issues.

(c) Larry Parr has pointed out for several years that the wishes of the USCF
delegates [supported by the board] have not seen to be in accord with the
actions of Fide delegates - in fact, these 'representatives' have been seen
to actually promote drug-testing here. Questions on these issues have been
raised by Parr, and also GM Evans and GM Seriwan particualrly, but Silence
has been the Stern Reply!

Therefore, what sort of assurance can I give you of what actually will
happen here in the United States, even though popular opinion seems to think
drug testing is utter nonsense?

We - in St Kitts and Nevis - don't want to be told by FIDE how to
start a national chess federation. I have no interest in giving the
folks from Barbados a chance to fly over to our country and STRIP our
children naked. It is offensive to our sovereignty. Chess is not a
chance to turn our children queer.

Let me go back to the top - {since what follows would merely be my opinion,
which is of no consequence to any program to the welfare of children in
chess, nor who should administer them - these issues are covered to large
degree by the laws of the country.}

The issue seems to be a necessity to create a scholatics program - and I
assume this has some minimum dimensions, that it is held in a school with at
least one teacher/mentor, and at least one student. Voila! A program. What
threshold does Fide want above this? Are you also saying that you have no
control of such a mentor or would not be assured by normal /scholastic/
rules as in the US, that this may not be an appropriate person?

A last note - Nigel Short wrote a criticism last week of Fide in Africa, and
of evident corruption and lack of support for the entire continent. Is it
possible for you to ally with the Commonwealth Chess Association instead of
Fide? N. Short is head of it at the moment, and I recently made him some
introudctions in other parts of the 'third word', in India especially. He
was attentive.

Cordially, Phil Innes



Before we admit a problem, look at the DEMANDS from Kirsan
Ilyumzhinov, President of FIDE. (above, #1, #2, #3). When I refused,
Kirsan tried to THROW ME IN JAIL and now has REFUSED US ADMISSION.

We will not tolerate the molestation of our children for the greater
glory of FIDE

The problem is HUGE, to the extent that my government has doubts about
joining a "family" of people who fly to our island, and DEMAND that
our children become sexual objects.

I take offense to the FIDE "family's" demands.. Kirsan is in bed with
so many pro homosexual interests he does not realize that the reason
the Caribbean is the most underdeveloped part of the planet Earth for
Chess is the sexual demands of FIDE.

I will not allow our children to be molested. We refuse to implement a
scholastic chess program, as FIDE has requested our government.

Let me say it: HELL NO to scholastic chess. The problem is TOO GREAT.

In my personal view, I do not object to homosexuality. I do object
when children are TAUGHT that being homosexual is ok. It is
inappropriate to use the game of chess as a pro homosexual sounding
board.

The arrogance of both American and FIDE officials is directly
proportional to the number of closet homosexuals in office. I support
a man or woman's right to choose their sexual orientation. I do not
support this game to turn our children QUEER.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of ST Kitts and Nevis to FIDE- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The issue seems to be a necessity to create a scholatics program - and
I
assume this has some minimum dimensions, that it is held in a school
with at
least one teacher/mentor, and at least one student. Voila! A program.
What
threshold does Fide want above this? Are you also saying that you have
no
control of such a mentor or would not be assured by normal /
scholastic/
rules as in the US, that this may not be an appropriate person?

Seat us in FIDE and we will eventually create a scholatic program. VP
of FIDE Bill Kellhner has made chess players fear arrest on St Kitts
and a little on Nevis. Internal politics plays into this, but we can't
take public steps until we decide how we are going to operate.

I do not feel that keeping the country out of the World Chess
Championship in 2008 and the FIDE General Assembly will help FIDE. I
will raise enough hell if I have to to get admitted, by Swiss court
order if necessary.

It seems to me that FIDE should let our nationals run our own affairs.
We will sort this out. The problem is the cart is before the horse.
FIDE entry will build a national chess federation, not vice versa, in
my opinoin.

FIDE VP Kellher hurt chess on ST Kitts and Nevis by trying to throw me
in jail. I wish FIDE would just admit us.

Marcus Roberts
President
Charleston Chess Assocation, LLC

On Jun 30, 8:09 pm, wrote:
On Jun 29, 9:22 am, "Chess One" wrote:





wrote in message

ups.com...

On St Kitts and Nevis, we can't even self screen. We must accept CHILD
MOLESTERS, appointed by FIDE, in order to join.

Marcus, I ask a question about this lower down.

The real problem is that both I and my the President of the St Kitts
and Nevis National Olympic Committee (Mr. Bridgewater) were clearly
OFFENDED at these FIDE officials (Bill Kelleher) DEMANDING that

1. St Kitts and Nevis set up a scholastic chess program, as a
requirement for admission to FIDE

Is this the same use of 'scholastics' as in USA? Here it means a chess club
in a public or private school. In all public schools there is a federal
mandate to conduct background checks on teachers, and also on coaches, even
if they are part-time and unpaid and after hours. Is this the same where you
are?

2. I issue illegal visits to Olympiads for illegal aliens as a
requirement for admission to FIDE, some of whom could be children.
These VISAS are sold on the open market as a ticket to illegal
immigration, for lots of money.

Strange! Is there a normal residency requirement on Kitts and Nevis to
become a citizen? What does the law think about this?

3. St Kitts and Nevis accepts that FIDE has a right to strip our
children naked and watch them pea.

This would be for the drug-testing requirement. I understand 3 things about
this;

(a) I thought Fide had stated that they would not drug-test children? Is
there a new change in these rules? The situation is so confused that some
time ago I interviewed the American chiropractor who was a proponent of drug
testing procedures, a Dr. Press, at Chessville - actually, we offered him an
op-ed piece.

(b) I also understood that the USCF has said that no testing should take
place on American soil. I have not seen the wording of this declaration, nor
understand if it - and I think this is important now - includes Fide-rated
tournaments not organised by USCF taking place on American soil. [As you
know, Fide are now to hold tournaments here which include ratings down to
1000 [?]. In trying to get answers from USCF, I was able to gain with Bill
Hall an agreement to have press conferences every 2 months so these issues
could be clarified and better understood. Unfortunetely I think Mr. Hall has
been shut-up, so from my own knowledge I can't assure you on these issues.

(c) Larry Parr has pointed out for several years that the wishes of the USCF
delegates [supported by the board] have not seen to be in accord with the
actions of Fide delegates - in fact, these 'representatives' have been seen
to actually promote drug-testing here. Questions on these issues have been
raised by Parr, and also GM Evans and GM Seriwan particualrly, but Silence
has been the Stern Reply!

Therefore, what sort of assurance can I give you of what actually will
happen here in the United States, even though popular opinion seems to think
drug testing is utter nonsense?

We - in St Kitts and Nevis - don't want to be told by FIDE how to
start a national chess federation. I have no interest in giving the
folks from Barbados a chance to fly over to our country and STRIP our
children naked. It is offensive to our sovereignty. Chess is not a
chance to turn our children queer.

Let me go back to the top - {since what follows would merely be my opinion,
which is of no consequence to any program to the welfare of children in
chess, nor who should administer them - these issues are covered to large
degree by the laws of the country.}

The issue seems to be a necessity to create a scholatics program - and I
assume this has some minimum dimensions, that it is held in a school with at
least one teacher/mentor, and at least one student. Voila! A program. What
threshold does Fide want above this? Are you also saying that you have no
control of such a mentor or would not be assured by normal /scholastic/
rules as in the US, that this may not be an appropriate person?

A last note - Nigel Short wrote a criticism last week of Fide in Africa, and
of evident corruption and lack of support for the entire continent. Is it
possible for you to ally with the Commonwealth Chess Association instead of
Fide? N. Short is head of it at the moment, and I recently made him some
introudctions in other parts of the 'third word', in India especially. He
was attentive.

Cordially, Phil Innes

Before we admit a problem, look at the DEMANDS from Kirsan
Ilyumzhinov, President of FIDE. (above, #1, #2, #3). When I refused,
Kirsan tried to THROW ME IN JAIL and now has REFUSED US ADMISSION.

We will not tolerate the molestation of our children for the greater
glory of FIDE

The problem is HUGE, to the extent that my government has doubts about
joining a "family" of people who fly to our island, and DEMAND that
our children become sexual objects.

I take offense to the FIDE "family's" demands.. Kirsan is in bed with
so many pro homosexual interests he does not realize that the reason
the Caribbean is the most underdeveloped part of the planet Earth for
Chess is the sexual demands of FIDE.

I will not allow our children to be molested. We refuse to implement a
scholastic chess program, as FIDE has requested our government.

Let me say it: HELL NO to scholastic chess. The problem is TOO GREAT.

In my personal view, I do not object to homosexuality. I do object
when children are TAUGHT that being homosexual is ok. It is
inappropriate to use the game of chess as a pro homosexual sounding
board.

The arrogance of both American and FIDE officials is directly
proportional to the number of closet homosexuals in office. I support
a man or woman's right to choose their sexual orientation. I do not
support this game to turn our children QUEER.

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of ST Kitts and Nevis to FIDE- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The issue seems to be a necessity to create a scholatics program - and
I
assume this has some minimum dimensions, that it is held in a school
with at
least one teacher/mentor, and at least one student. Voila! A program.
What
threshold does Fide want above this? Are you also saying that you have
no
control of such a mentor or would not be assured by normal /
scholastic/
rules as in the US, that this may not be an appropriate person?

Seat us in FIDE and we will eventually create a scholatic program. VP
of FIDE Bill Kellhner has made chess players fear arrest on St Kitts
and a little on Nevis. Internal politics plays into this, but we can't
take public steps until we decide how we are going to operate.

I do not feel that keeping the country out of the World Chess
Championship in 2008 and the FIDE General Assembly will help FIDE. I
will raise enough hell if I have to to get admitted, by Swiss court
order if necessary.

It seems to me that FIDE should let our nationals run our own affairs.
We will sort this out. The problem is the cart is before the horse.
FIDE entry will build a national chess federation, not vice versa, in
my opinoin.

FIDE VP Kellher hurt chess on ST Kitts and Nevis by trying to throw me
in jail. I wish FIDE would just admit us.

Marcus Roberts
President
Charleston Chess Assocation, LLC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is why, IMO, the subject is worth exploring, in sober fashion,
and for
everyone having to do with children in chess. First of all we have to
admit
there is a problem.

I admitted there was a problem when I resigned as a USCF VIce
President (1 year into a 3 year term) for this various reason. in 1993
I am proud of my decision then, and now. FIDE VP Kellher has objected
to any membership on the USCF Board of Delegates, while I am
associated as a candidate FIDE Delegate in fear that I will point this
PROBLEM out.

Phil - why don't you admit Vermont into the USCF. Is there a USCF
Delegate in Vermont?

Marcus Roberts

Phil is not a USCF member.


Phil - why don't you admit Vermont into the USCF. Is there a USCF
Delegate in Vermont?

Marcus Roberts