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Is that why he played chess all the time and did not want to do
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On Aug 10, 12:03 pm, Zero wrote:
Is that why he played chess all the time and did not want to do anything else? While I doubt he is fully autistic there is wide spectrum of disorders that fall on the autism chain. Fischer may have OCD which is characterized by excessive devotion or obsession with one or a few things. OCD can be severe or it can fairly manageable depending upon the individual. Most people think of the movie Rain Man when they think of Autism, but I actually know some very high functioning autistic people who can live relatively normal and productive lives. Most high functioning autistic people have developed coping methods to manage their disability. Coping methods may include standard routines, limiting of distractions or even medications. Actually this was an interesting question that I'd never heard anyone ask before. |
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Zero wrote:
Is that why he played chess all the time and did not want to do anything else? It is possible that psychologically speaking, that anything outside the norm, is in a view, broken. And it is quite reasonable to state that not just grandmastership, but those that so destroy the norm that they stand by themselves, are broken. In any of the mental fields. They may be useful, they may have desired qualities, but often this leaks out in other more well known disorders. OCD, Paranoia, Maniacism, schizophrenia, suicide. From computer programmers, philosophers, artists, musicians, and chess players. Chess has an interesting attribute in that paranoia is a useful trait to playing well. This enhanced paranoia can be seen in many of the world champions, and even the chess organizations, and the people that run them. This paranoia has led to people historically attacking the game and the players, and caused the players to be wary of others. As one of the more "normal", it is often impossible to understand the talented and broken other than appreciate their output. And if anything it should remind everyone, that the mind is a very interesting and incredible thing. |
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THE BOBBY FISCHER THAT WE LOVED
An article by GM Larry Evans that may shed some light on this issue is scheduled to be published in the September issue of the British magazine CHESS. JohnnyT wrote: Zero wrote: Is that why he played chess all the time and did not want to do anything else? It is possible that psychologically speaking, that anything outside the norm, is in a view, broken. And it is quite reasonable to state that not just grandmastership, but those that so destroy the norm that they stand by themselves, are broken. In any of the mental fields. They may be useful, they may have desired qualities, but often this leaks out in other more well known disorders. OCD, Paranoia, Maniacism, schizophrenia, suicide. From computer programmers, philosophers, artists, musicians, and chess players. Chess has an interesting attribute in that paranoia is a useful trait to playing well. This enhanced paranoia can be seen in many of the world champions, and even the chess organizations, and the people that run them. This paranoia has led to people historically attacking the game and the players, and caused the players to be wary of others. As one of the more "normal", it is often impossible to understand the talented and broken other than appreciate their output. And if anything it should remind everyone, that the mind is a very interesting and incredible thing. |
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Bs'd
More like the Asperger syndrome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome Genius never comes alone, it goes hand in hand with some mental disorder. Like Korchnoi said: "All grandmasters are crazy, they only differ in their level of craziness." Eliyahu |
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"Chess is not something that drives people mad; chess is something
that keeps mad people sane." -British IM Bill Hartston (quoted by GM Evans) Eliyahu wrote: Bs'd More like the Asperger syndrome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome Genius never comes alone, it goes hand in hand with some mental disorder. Like Korchnoi said: "All grandmasters are crazy, they only differ in their level of craziness." Eliyahu |
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On Aug 10, 12:58 pm, Bruce wrote:
Most people think of the movie Rain Man when they think of Autism, but I actually know some very high functioning autistic people who can live relatively normal and productive lives. Another true to life story (when it comes to cards) is the story of Stu Ungar. He was regarded by many as one of the greatest poker players of all time. He won the World Series of Poker three times, which inlcuded his back to back wins in 1980 and 1981. Ungar was a genius and had a chessplayer-like abilitiy when it comes to memory. He was able to keep track of every card in a six-deck blackjack shoe. In 1977 he was bet $100,000 by Bob Stupak, an owner and designer of casinos, that he could not count down the last three decks in a six deck shoe. Ungar won the bet. |
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