On Aug 22, 11:15?am, Bruce wrote:
On Aug 22, 7:05 am, Old Haasie wrote:





On Aug 22, 12:05?am, Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Old Haasie wrote:

If I ran the Mensa scheme my way, the Districts could not **** away
money publishing chess newsletters.

Please explain what part of the Mensa scheme contrains the local
umbrella group to be run "your way"?

--
Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/

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That's easy. The Mensa scheme is at this moment run only by me ... in
an idealistic way. If it became a concrete proposal I have no doubt
that many elements in the USCF would try to suborn the scheme and go
for the money... the state associations being one.

Old Haasie

Well at least with that statement we are relatively safe then. I
don't remember in what year you first proposed it but I can see it's
moved way far beyond the proposal stages and is now about to be
implemented *sarcasm button on*.- Hide quoted text -

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Bruce ~
First of all I didn't realize that you were the Bruce of old, the
Nebraska Bruce that I enjoyed debating so much a few years ago on this
forum. I just wish you'd been here in January when Florida humiliated
Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl.
As for the Mensa Model, yes, you are safe; it will never happen in
the USCF. I merely think it would be the best way to structure a
national chess federation, better than the USCF's form at this time.
But I'm not pushing for its implementation because nowadays I am too
old and in declining health. I had a heart attack (the Big One) in
October 2005 and have an implanted defibrillator like VP Dick
Cheney's. In fact, I can talk to him through the defibrillator by
punching a code into my left nipple.

Old Haasie

On Aug 23, 12:39 pm, Old Haasie wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:15?am, Bruce wrote:



On Aug 22, 7:05 am, Old Haasie wrote:

On Aug 22, 12:05?am, Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Old Haasie wrote:

If I ran the Mensa scheme my way, the Districts could not **** away
money publishing chess newsletters.

Please explain what part of the Mensa scheme contrains the local
umbrella group to be run "your way"?

--
Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/

======================
That's easy. The Mensa scheme is at this moment run only by me ... in
an idealistic way. If it became a concrete proposal I have no doubt
that many elements in the USCF would try to suborn the scheme and go
for the money... the state associations being one.

Old Haasie

Well at least with that statement we are relatively safe then. I
don't remember in what year you first proposed it but I can see it's
moved way far beyond the proposal stages and is now about to be
implemented *sarcasm button on*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

====================
Bruce ~
First of all I didn't realize that you were the Bruce of old, the
Nebraska Bruce that I enjoyed debating so much a few years ago on this
forum. I just wish you'd been here in January when Florida humiliated
Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl.
As for the Mensa Model, yes, you are safe; it will never happen in
the USCF. I merely think it would be the best way to structure a
national chess federation, better than the USCF's form at this time.
But I'm not pushing for its implementation because nowadays I am too
old and in declining health. I had a heart attack (the Big One) in
October 2005 and have an implanted defibrillator like VP Dick
Cheney's. In fact, I can talk to him through the defibrillator by
punching a code into my left nipple.

Old Haasie- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, it's me, I stayed away from here for two years although I did see
that Sam had won election to the board last August.

Sorry to hear that you have had heart problems. Hope it had nothing
to do with chess politics I think if you were going to blow the
whole thing up and start over from scratch that a loose confederation
of local chess groups might be a feasible plan assuming that the
expectations from the national organization were minimal and mostly of
a nominal nature.

In my view dues for such an arrangement to be at all feasible would
have to be below $30.00/year. Perhaps a $10-$20 share arrangement or
something similar would be possible but the current situation makes
this type of arrangement impossible.

On Aug 23, 12:39 pm, Old Haasie wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:15?am, Bruce wrote:



On Aug 22, 7:05 am, Old Haasie wrote:

On Aug 22, 12:05?am, Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Old Haasie wrote:

If I ran the Mensa scheme my way, the Districts could not **** away
money publishing chess newsletters.

Please explain what part of the Mensa scheme contrains the local
umbrella group to be run "your way"?

--
Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/

======================
That's easy. The Mensa scheme is at this moment run only by me ... in
an idealistic way. If it became a concrete proposal I have no doubt
that many elements in the USCF would try to suborn the scheme and go
for the money... the state associations being one.

Old Haasie

Well at least with that statement we are relatively safe then. I
don't remember in what year you first proposed it but I can see it's
moved way far beyond the proposal stages and is now about to be
implemented *sarcasm button on*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

====================
Bruce ~
First of all I didn't realize that you were the Bruce of old, the
Nebraska Bruce that I enjoyed debating so much a few years ago on this
forum. I just wish you'd been here in January when Florida humiliated
Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl.
As for the Mensa Model, yes, you are safe; it will never happen in
the USCF. I merely think it would be the best way to structure a
national chess federation, better than the USCF's form at this time.
But I'm not pushing for its implementation because nowadays I am too
old and in declining health. I had a heart attack (the Big One) in
October 2005 and have an implanted defibrillator like VP Dick
Cheney's. In fact, I can talk to him through the defibrillator by
punching a code into my left nipple.

Old Haasie- Hide quoted text -

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Mensa members and chess players probably have some different
characteristics. For example Mensa members are small enough in number
that they often meet in homes whereas chess tournaments can be too
large for such arrangements to be feasible. Mensa does not offer a
rating system, nor does Mensa need to establish certification
standards for directors of events like USCF does.

A Mensa event doesn't usually charge a separate entry fee like a chess
event does to participate. In other words one big advantage that
Mensa has over USCF is that chess tournaments cost money to attend and
play in, not only in the form of entry fees, but also for food and
lodging. Most Mensa meetings are primarily for people who live near
the organizer's home. Most Mensa meetings last only a couple hours
whereas most chess tournaments last at least one and sometimes 2 or
more days.