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From an interview of Senator Gravel's spokesperson Shawn Alexander
Colvin to the the newspaper Pravda.ru. (http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri..._mike_gravel-0) Second question from the bottom: =================== PRAVDA.RU: Can you imagine the former chess champion Bobby Fisher as the leader of an opposition movement in the USA? Please substantiate your answer. COLVIN: Bobby Fischer would be pardoned. He deserves an apology for the way he has been treated by the Bush administration. =================== "would be pardoned" doesn't really make sense. I think he rather said or meant to say "should be pardoned". I wish more senators would raise the issue. Eustace -- It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation http://www.geocities.com/itaintme_babe/itaintme.html |
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On Aug 23, 4:34 am, Eustace wrote:
From an interview of Senator Gravel's spokesperson Shawn Alexander Colvin to the the newspaper Pravda.ru. (http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...0-senator_mike...) Second question from the bottom: =================== PRAVDA.RU: Can you imagine the former chess champion Bobby Fisher as the leader of an opposition movement in the USA? Please substantiate your answer. COLVIN: Bobby Fischer would be pardoned. He deserves an apology for the way he has been treated by the Bush administration. =================== "would be pardoned" doesn't really make sense. I think he rather said or meant to say "should be pardoned". I wish more senators would raise the issue. Eustace This is really great news, long overdue. Too bad that even the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation refuses to support Fischer. Sam Sloan |
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ANOTHER VIEWPOINT
From THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (Cardoza Publishers, $9.95) due to reach bookstores in September.) Surprised by arriving to a tumultuous hero's welcome in Reykjavik, Fischer told a midnight crowd that he plans to stay there. "If the people get tired of me, they can take away my citizenship later," he said. So far he has kept a low profile, but some observers are wondering when he will bite the hand that freed him. In a letter from congressman Christopher Shays to a constituent in Connecticut in 2005, he stated: "I do not believe that the United States should stop their pursuit and prosecution of Bobby Fischer. A warrant was issued for his arrest but never served since he has never returned to America. After his arrest in Japan he also accused President Bush and Japanese Prime Minister Koizumi of conspiring against him and said, 'They should be hanged.' The bottom line is Mr. Fischer broke the law and should be returned to the United States where he can be tried for the crimes of which he is accused. However, earlier this year, Iceland's parliament granted him asylum and citizenship for bringing attention and honor to the country in 1972 for beating Spassky there." samsloan wrote: On Aug 23, 4:34 am, Eustace wrote: From an interview of Senator Gravel's spokesperson Shawn Alexander Colvin to the the newspaper Pravda.ru. (http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...0-senator_mike...) Second question from the bottom: =================== PRAVDA.RU: Can you imagine the former chess champion Bobby Fisher as the leader of an opposition movement in the USA? Please substantiate your answer. COLVIN: Bobby Fischer would be pardoned. He deserves an apology for the way he has been treated by the Bush administration. =================== "would be pardoned" doesn't really make sense. I think he rather said or meant to say "should be pardoned". I wish more senators would raise the issue. Eustace This is really great news, long overdue. Too bad that even the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation refuses to support Fischer. Sam Sloan |
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On Aug 23, 8:26 am, samsloan wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:34 am, Eustace wrote: From an interview of Senator Gravel's spokesperson Shawn Alexander Colvin to the the newspaper Pravda.ru. (http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...0-senator_mike...) Second question from the bottom: PRAVDA.RU: Can you imagine the former chess champion Bobby Fisher as the leader of an opposition movement in the USA? Please substantiate your answer. The interviewer must be amazingly ignorant of Fischer's political and social opinions, or those of most Americans, to ask such an absurd question. |
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On Aug 23, 11:25 am, Taylor Kingston wrote:
On Aug 23, 8:26 am, samsloan wrote: On Aug 23, 4:34 am, Eustace wrote: From an interview of Senator Gravel's spokesperson Shawn Alexander Colvin to the the newspaper Pravda.ru. (http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...0-senator_mike...) Second question from the bottom: PRAVDA.RU: Can you imagine the former chess champion Bobby Fisher as the leader of an opposition movement in the USA? Please substantiate your answer. The interviewer must be amazingly ignorant of Fischer's political and social opinions, or those of most Americans, to ask such an absurd question. I disagree. The interviewer seems quite aware of Fischer's views. His questions, taken as a whole, seem to address the issue of Kasparov leading an opposition movement in Russia while receiving some funding from America. Sam Sloan |
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On Aug 23, 11:50 am, samsloan wrote:
On Aug 23, 11:25 am, Taylor Kingston wrote: On Aug 23, 8:26 am, samsloan wrote: On Aug 23, 4:34 am, Eustace wrote: From an interview of Senator Gravel's spokesperson Shawn Alexander Colvin to the the newspaper Pravda.ru. (http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...0-senator_mike...) Second question from the bottom: PRAVDA.RU: Can you imagine the former chess champion Bobby Fisher as the leader of an opposition movement in the USA? Please substantiate your answer. The interviewer must be amazingly ignorant of Fischer's political and social opinions, or those of most Americans, to ask such an absurd question. I disagree. The interviewer seems quite aware of Fischer's views. My comment still stands. In that case, the interviewer must be amazingly ignorant of how most Americans would view Fischer's rabidly racist, anti-Semitic, and anti-American views. Not to mention Fischer's lifelong preference for being an isolated loner, rather than a group leader. There is no possibility of Fischer ever becoming any sort of leader of any substantial political movement in the USA. |
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samsloan writes:
Too bad that even the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation refuses to support Fischer. Why do you want to make it even worse? The EB at least is willing to leave Fischer the hell alone to live his life in peace. You want to make him a USCF member again, against his wishes. |
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On Aug 23, 11:02 am, Taylor Kingston wrote:
On Aug 23, 11:50 am, samsloan wrote: On Aug 23, 11:25 am, Taylor Kingston wrote: On Aug 23, 8:26 am, samsloan wrote: On Aug 23, 4:34 am, Eustace wrote: From an interview of Senator Gravel's spokesperson Shawn Alexander Colvin to the the newspaper Pravda.ru. (http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...0-senator_mike...) Second question from the bottom: PRAVDA.RU: Can you imagine the former chess champion Bobby Fisher as the leader of an opposition movement in the USA? Please substantiate your answer. The interviewer must be amazingly ignorant of Fischer's political and social opinions, or those of most Americans, to ask such an absurd question. I disagree. The interviewer seems quite aware of Fischer's views. My comment still stands. In that case, the interviewer must be amazingly ignorant of how most Americans would view Fischer's rabidly racist, anti-Semitic, and anti-American views. Not to mention Fischer's lifelong preference for being an isolated loner, rather than a group leader. There is no possibility of Fischer ever becoming any sort of leader of any substantial political movement in the USA.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I agree with Taylor on this one. Fischer could never lead. Loan wolves never lead a pack, they just antagonize it. Fischer and Mohaned Slaon are cut from similar cloth in that regard. Rob |
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PRESIDENT CLINTON'S MEMOIRS
Excerpt from THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans. 3. Fischer Stalemated February 14, 2005 It seems incredible, but Bobby Fischer languished in a Tokyo cell for eight months without bail while Japan decided whether to deport him to America or Iceland, which had offered him asylum. His passport was confiscated but the USA did not demand extradition because Japan doesn't regard his offense as criminal. "He's not a robber, he's not a killer, he's not a traitor. All he did was play chess," said his lawyer. So just what did Bobby actually do apart from yapping about the Jews and praising terrorists for 9/11? A new book, Bobby Fischer, The Wandering King (Batsford, 2004) based on a Dutch TV documentary, notes, "Practising his art became criminal because George Bush pére issued an executive order in 1992." Fischer violated that order by playing a $5 million rematch with Boris Spassky during a civil war in Yugoslavia. He was indicted by a Grand Jury 13 years ago and faces 10 years in jail plus fines, the only person ever prosecuted for defying Bush's economic sanctions. The book quotes former Chess Life editor Larry Parr, who said, "The issue is not whether Fischer broke a law (so have all of us) but whether he is a criminal as opposed to someone who has fallen afoul of the federal regime. Americans today are largely sold on the State as the new god, but in 19th century England, juries often would not convict for minor theft because the punishment -hanging- was utterly disproportionate to the crime." Canadian chess journalist Jonathan Berry observed, "It has been reported that President Clinton in his memoirs said the embargo was ignored by all, even the USA government, and it was only enforced to the extent that arms were not sent to Serbia. Yet arms were sent with impunity to other factions, and other contacts with Serbia were okay. If true, the whole incident appears doubly pointless." A reader replied, "It's even worse than that. Serbia allegedly received missiles produced in the USA via Israel which makes it grotesquely hypocritical to punish Fischer for his 30 games against Spassky." Paul Rubin wrote: samsloan writes: Too bad that even the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation refuses to support Fischer. Why do you want to make it even worse? The EB at least is willing to leave Fischer the hell alone to live his life in peace. You want to make him a USCF member again, against his wishes. |
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On 23 Aug, 11:03, Paul Rubin wrote:
samsloan writes: Too bad that even the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation refuses to support Fischer. Why do you want to make it even worse? The EB at least is willing to leave Fischer the hell alone to live his life in peace. You want to make him a USCF member again, against his wishes. Because Sam Sloan, just like Brian P. Lafferty, along with Brenan Nierman, are dickheads, as elegantly stated by Anatoly Karpov. |
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