On Aug 31, 8:44 am, samsloan wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:08 am, "Chess One" wrote:



Q. How many CPA's does it take to change a lighbulb?
A. One. And its not funny.

Even though you don't wear ties, I bet you got a decent haircut - in the
sales world we used to refer to accountants as 'pencil-necks'. You may not
have heard that term, and you also may not be aware that chessplayers wear
one or two t-shirts at a time, with an old sweatshirt over the top, above
dirty jeans and busted sneakers, on top of all that is a wig with a
miniature communication device woven in*, and that's just the grandmasters!

Just because we play chess doesn't mean we can spit far, without, by all
evidence, dribbling a lot of it down our fronts.

Phil Innes, STTMP
The Hippocampus, Vt.

*long story

Phil Innes makes CPA jokes and ridicules chess players.

I just want to let you know that Phil Innes last appeared at a rated
chess tournament in 1995, which is 12 years ago, and his competence
and abilities at the game of chess is unknown.

ARE unknown.

However, there are hints. Innes once posted some poor analysis of one
of your games. When it was refuted here he claimed his analytical work
was done without sight of the board.

I have offered to play Phil Innes a chess match for one thousand
dollars cash money and he has declined, even though I am not even a
rated master and he claims to be "nearly an IM".

Sam Sloan

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On Aug 31, 9:08 am, "Chess One" wrote:

Q. How many CPA's does it take to change a lighbulb?
A. One. And its not funny.

Even though you don't wear ties, I bet you got a decent haircut - in the
sales world we used to refer to accountants as 'pencil-necks'. You may
not
have heard that term, and you also may not be aware that chessplayers
wear
one or two t-shirts at a time, with an old sweatshirt over the top, above
dirty jeans and busted sneakers, on top of all that is a wig with a
miniature communication device woven in*, and that's just the
grandmasters!

Just because we play chess doesn't mean we can spit far, without, by all
evidence, dribbling a lot of it down our fronts.

Phil Innes, STTMP
The Hippocampus, Vt.

*long story

Phil Innes makes CPA jokes and ridicules chess players.

This CPA hs a sense of humor, and was good enough to actually talk was plain
sense on his own nickel, and I very much doubt that he will not like the
joke.

I just want to let you know that Phil Innes last appeared at a rated
chess tournament in 1995, which is 12 years ago, and his competence
and abilities at the game of chess is unknown.

Sam Sloan is a known negative speculator on the worth of others, and if he
actually listened to anything he would know that rgcp have a chess team,
that we play each other, and indeed - he also just stated that our current
captain Rob Mitchell doesn't play chess. In fact another team is starting
up, and chess is a show me game, not a tell me game.

We will certainly challenge the USCF board to a match next month and frantic
recruitment efforts are underway to find a board 1 to match theirs.

I have offered to play Phil Innes a chess match for one thousand
dollars cash money and he has declined, even though I am not even a
rated master and he claims to be "nearly an IM".

I rather fear Mr. Sloan presence in me would invoke the 'Miles-effect' when
the first words out of Sloan's mouth caused Tony to floor him. Tony never
did that to anyone else! Indeed, I think that is not an unusual response to
Mr. Sloan's mouth, which is bigger than his ELO.

Not that Mr. Sloan has ELO-envy, that common disease. I am not an IM, but
almost 30 years ago when I gave up serious chess, in mainland Europe, I had
a few good seasons.

Mr. Sloan, it seems to me to have an altogether different sort of envy, and
if I have to be an 'almost-IM' then surely he will consent to be called an
'almost-WIM'?

Phil Innes

Sam Sloan

On Aug 31, 8:44 am, samsloan wrote:

Phil Innes makes CPA jokes and ridicules chess players.

I just want to let you know that Phil Innes last appeared at a rated
chess tournament in 1995, which is 12 years ago, and his competence
and abilities at the game of chess is unknown.

Here's how a Nearly An IM 2450 analyzes:

[Event "World Open Championship"]
[Site "Philadelphia, PA"]
[Date "2005.07.02"]
[Round "03"]
[White "Magarshak, Gregory"]
[Black "Sloan, Sam"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C40"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nxe5 fxe5 4.Qh5+ Ke7 5.Qxe5+ Kf7 6.Bc4+ d5
7.Bxd5+ Kg6 8.f4 h6 9.f5+ Kh7 10.Bf7 Nf6 11.Qg3 g5 12.fxg6+ Kg7
13.d3 Nc6 14.e5 Qe7 15.O-O Qxe5 16.Bf4 Qxb2 17.Nd2 Nd4 18.Rae1
Nf5 19.Be5 Bc5+ 20.Rf2 Nxg3 21.Bxb2 Bxf2+ 22.Kxf2 Ngh5 23.h3 Rd8

Rd8!?

What about something like this instead:-

23... Bf5
24 g4 Bxg6
25 Bc4 Rae8
26 Rxe8 Rxe8
27 gxh5 Bf7!
28 Bd4 a6
29 Bb3 Bxb3
30 ab Kf7
31 Bxf6 Kxf6
32 Ne4+ Ke5
33 Nc5 Kd4
34 Nxb7 Rb8
35 Na5 Kc3
36 Nc6 Rb6
37 Nc5 Kxc2

With a won end-game for black.

Cordially, Phil Innes

How interesting that people are now returning to these forums after the USCF
one has proved less than useful to other than the politicians who run it.

Recently the Sam Sloan impersonator has dissapeared, and we have also chased
off most other abusers by simply asking them to write on topic, any topic to
do with chess, rather than speculate about other posters as their constant
diet. Its okay to say your opinion without agreeing with others, but
negating what others say, when this is known not to be true, is plain and
simple abuse - and its going to get called

--

I have seen a few examples recently of people saying Rob Mitchell here is no
chess player - though for sure, he plays more than almost anyone else.
Certainly some dozen people now understand that since we all play in the
same team.

Neither is it respectful, and I'm going to name the reprobates, to say that
someone's game is bad when they post it here then mock them.

Neil Brennan, Taylor Kingston and Greg Kennedy 'bot' all did this to a
posted game, meanwhile neglecting to notice a 2-mover which actually &
entirely changed the course fo the game. Obviously they lack any substance
in their perceptions of chess to /mock/ other people's chess. Its okay not
to see or understand what is happening in any game, but that is not their
intention!

Sam Sloan might get off it too - since he likes to declare that people don't
play chess, while declining to notice that they actually challenge him to
join in like a regular human being and play like anyone else here. We are
not *special* people. If he can't do that, take a hike!

Greg Kennedy has, at least to his credit, now joined in the same waters as
the rest of us in terms of actually playing chess in the same place. I hope
this will moderate his opinions in /chessic terms/ since otherwise, what
sort of *special* status do such people have to voice any opinion?

--

I make no direct link between the Sloan-imitators and the re-appearance of
the recent spate of hateful deniers of other people's lives. I simply say
that this is as nihilistic as the former manifestation.

--

When very strong players have shown up here, the same sets of abusers have
driven them off, with constant nonsense, name-callings, and so on, as if
they themselves actually had either experience of playing GM chess, or could
even understand the games. Their knowledge by virtue of their experience is
rejected as 'elitism' or something - which is simply to admit that what is
best is not worth note.

If we want some chess here, then lets discuss /chess/ here, and not actively
whine that other people are talking chess.

And if its chess management [aka politics], let us proceed along the same
lines - no poster has any business rubbishing another instead of the other
person's ideas. And nobody at all is right every day of the week. Usually,
the big benefit of a group process is that collectively people can take an
interesting idea and improve it.

[which is to say - there is something wrong with it that can actively be
addressed - and it is /not/ to say that by having some idea the person
representing it should be trashed - that is an admission of what the trasher
can contribute.]

--

The usual villains will take over every thread and issue their usually vague
abuse in them [which is entirely ad hominem], but cannot actually address
any topic to better inform it, or inform themselves by exploring it.

Phil Innes

On Aug 31, 12:17 pm, "Chess One" wrote:

Sam Sloan might get off it too - since he likes to declare that people don't
play chess, while declining to notice that they actually challenge him to
join in like a regular human being and play like anyone else here. We are
not *special* people. If he can't do that, take a hike!

Phil Innes

For those who are new here you should be made aware of the fact what
Phil Innes refers to as playing "like anyone else here" means playing
online on the Internet where Phil Innes can consult computers,
friends, books and databases.

I have challenged Phil Innes to a match for one thousand dollars CASH
MONEY ON THE TABLE.

I propose for the match to be refereed by that distinguished
International Arbiter Larry Cohen.

Here I am a very lowly, lowest of the low 1923 rated chess player,
challenging that highest of the high, mightiest of the mighty "Nearly
an IM" Phil Innes to a match for money, and he refuses to play me.

Has this man no honor, no pride?

Sam Sloan

----- Original Message -----
From: "samhsloan"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: [fide-chess] Accoona Securities Scandal


On Aug 31, 12:17 pm, "Chess One" wrote:

Sam Sloan might get off it too - since he likes to declare that
people don't
play chess, while declining to notice that they actually challenge
him to
join in like a regular human being and play like anyone else here.
We are
not *special* people. If he can't do that, take a hike!

Phil Innes

For those who are new here you should be made aware of the fact what
Phil Innes refers to as playing "like anyone else here" means playing
online on the Internet where Phil Innes can consult computers,
friends, books and databases.


**you see how carefully friend Sloan makes his SLY statements, 'where I can'
he says! He naturally stops short of making that a direct accusation, since
if he did it in person then surely the Miles-effect would uh, kick in?

**what goes for EVERYONE else, is not good enough for El Sloan, who wants
*special* stuatus and puts it in writing! I challenged Sloan to be normal,
and he can't do that. He would rather be - what? sly or is it paranoid?

I have challenged Phil Innes to a match for one thousand dollars CASH
MONEY ON THE TABLE.

**I would probably knock Sam Sloan on his arse like Miles did and for
similar provocations, and why should I play a patzer, anyway - what is so
special about Sloan's status?

I propose for the match to be refereed by that distinguished
International Arbiter Larry Cohen.

Here I am a very lowly, lowest of the low 1923 rated chess player,
challenging that highest of the high, mightiest of the mighty "Nearly
an IM" Phil Innes to a match for money, and he refuses to play me.

Has this man no honor, no pride?


**If you want *special* status, then that is something entirely to do with
you, Sloan. That you think you are *special* is nothing to me, you are just
an enormous mouth who utters nonsense all day and night in public in order
to put other people down - you distort the context of all conversation, and
you and Louis Blair deserve each other as honest reporters! Have you ever
written anything at all which does not blame someone else, and make Sloan
the [patheticly juvenile] chapmion of whatever-it-is?

**If what everyone else does is not good enough for you, then you truly are
in a league of your own. Stay there if you want.

**But don't be such a big mouth to think you could possibly make such
suggestions to me in person! You would **** yourself before anything bad
happened to you.

**Understand that, Wormtongue.

Phil Innes

---

Sam Sloan

Please notice that Phil Innes has only a provisional USCF rating,
meaning that he has only played 24 games or less, and the highest
rated player he has ever defeated in his life was rated 2060, and he
has a slew of losses to Class B rated players:

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12529296

Sam Sloan

Please notice that Phil Innes has only a provisional USCF rating,
meaning that he has only played 24 games or less, and the highest
rated player he has ever defeated in his life was rated 2060, and he
has a slew of losses to Class B rated players:

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12529296

For me to bet one thousand dollars that I can beat him would be a very
safe bet, like money in the bank.

Sam Sloan

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:17:04 GMT, "Chess One"
wrote:


Recently the Sam Sloan impersonator has dissapeared, and we have also chased
off most other abusers by simply asking them to write on topic, any topic to
do with chess, rather than speculate about other posters as their constant
diet.

I doubt anybody chased them off.

I think they've gone because there's nothing much going on at the
moment, or perhaps they feel they've already realized their agenda.

Please notice that Phil Innes has only a provisional USCF rating,
meaning that he has only played 24 games or less, and the highest
rated player he has ever defeated in his life was rated 2060,

***actually 2199! if you want to play chess sloan just show up and stop
making such a *special* person of yourself! if you insult or provoke me or
my family i will smack you in your mouth very hard indeed. that is normal
here, as it is anywhere. just because you do this at a distance persuades
you that what you do is tolerable in person. it ain't - and if you provoke
it, pfft! is that fair to your mind?

if you want to play chess then we could play chess. i don't usually play
chess with abuseniks, so maybe it is YOU who are declining the opportunity
to play me - rather than talking big, as usual? how about them bananas?

in person i do assure you what you write at a distance is not ok or normal
here, and is considered provocative, and you /are/ a massive poseur at
other's expense, after all! - like someone really wanting to fight instead
of playing chess. but only wanting it at a distance. make up your own mind
which that is -since you picked the wrong person to pretend with - so come
on over or shut it. i am now calling you! okay?

if you ever dare to show up i'll let the people know that perhaps you
decided to play chess instead of playing your mouth organ.

i hope you notice that this is not really an invitation, and even if you
came i might not decide you are worth spending 10 minutes with, since you
are not *special* to me - it is a response to abuse which you offer at the
safe distance of some several hundred miles.

and remember miles!

stop pretending you want to play me at chess, since who actually would want
to voluntarily spend time with you, on these usual terms of engagement? i
can play stronger people anytime at all, and make no bones about losing to
them, opr triumphs either. whatever your game is is something else entirely,
nr. wormtongue

phil innes

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