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On Aug 31, 7:16 pm, samsloan wrote:
False Claims by Polgar Polgar propaganda constantly claims that Polgar is a "Four Times Woman's World Champion". This is not true. She only won the Woman's World Championship one time. That was in 1996. Now that she has been elected, this allegation appears on the USCF website. It will be interesting to see if this appears in Chess Life, where everybody will know that it is false. Several more false claims about Polgar appear. Here is part of a USCF Press Release at: http://beta.uschess.org/frontend/press_33_97.php "Former Women's World Champion Susan Polgar has just been elected as the first ever Chairman of the USCF. Grandmaster Susan Polgar is the winner of four Women's World Championships and ten Olympiad medals (5 Gold, 4 Silver and 1 Bronze). She was the first woman to break the gender barrier to earn the Grandmaster title with the same qualifications as her male counterpart. She was also the first woman to qualify for the Men's World Championship cycle. Susan became the #1 woman player in the world at the age of 15 and has remained in the top 3 for 23 straight years." Much of this is not true. She was not the first woman to qualify for the Men's World Championship cycle. Pia Cramling was. Pia Cramling qualified from the Championship of Sweden and played in the zonal tournament in about 1981. It is true that Susan should have been allowed to qualify after finishing tied for second in the 1986 Hungarian Championship, but Hungary would not allow her to play, sending Csom instead. I was personally involved in this incident, so I know all about it. I agree that Polgar was cheated and she should have been allowed to play in the zonal. However, in any case she would not have been the first woman to qualify as Cramling had qualified five years before her. Also, she has not been in the top three women in the world for 23 straight years because she is not in the top three now. She has been largely inactive since 1992. Currently, the top three women in the world are Judit Polgar, Humpy Koneru and Pia Cramling. Susan Polgar is not listed since she has not played since 2004. Before 2004, she had not played in 8 years since 1996. Naturally, during these long periods when she is not playing, she cannot claim to be one of the "Top Three Players" in the world. http://www.fide.com/ratings/top.phtml?list=women Now that she has been elected, one wonders whether these false claims will appear in Chess Life magazine, where they will be the subject of ridicule. Sam Sloan Speaking of false claims, a press release from Innes' much puffed 2005 Shacom infomercial comes to mind. I wrote: Strangely enough, the "First Press Release" distributed by the Innes/Mitchell team described GM Polgar as "ranked in the top three in the world for the last twenty years. Polgar is currently ranked #1 in the United States." No mention that this is a woman's title and a ranking on a woman's list. ChessBase made the correction, of course, but then again, they know chess. The press release was sent to non-chessplayers, or in other words people who would not know the truth about Trollgar. This betrays the fine hand of Philth Innes, who has used this method of lying before; he once claimed to be "nearly an IM" on a Shakespeare newsgroup. As we continue to read this interesting document, we see that Trollgar has earned "the title of "Chess Ambassador"." A search of the Internet shows that the title of "Chess Ambassador" was awarded to Trollgar by herself and her male remora. Leaving aside for now the puffery about "distance chess" nonsense (obviously Innes has never heard of correspondence chess), we note Mr. Innes in his biography finally admits to having a business interest in Shahcom, despite having denied it for years he "Synchronously with business activities, worked with the inventor of chess broadcasting technologies in St. Petersburg, Russia, since 1996, to promote greater world-wide interactions and audiences for chess." The chess may be high class, but the promotion of it is but another sack of Philth. |
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On Sep 1, 8:27 am, "Chess One" wrote:
She also has a pretty impressive record against Bobby Fischer, especially at blitz, but she don't talk about it much Phil Innes http://beta.uschess.org/frontend/news_7_59.php A pretty impressive result for some who's supposedly inactive. Susan Polgar never played "chess" against Bobby Fischer. She played him at Fischer Random Chess also now known as chess960 since there are 960 possible starting positions. Fischer calls chess the "old chess" and refuses to play it. Sam Sloan |
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"samsloan" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 1, 8:27 am, "Chess One" wrote: She also has a pretty impressive record against Bobby Fischer, especially at blitz, but she don't talk about it much Phil Innes http://beta.uschess.org/frontend/news_7_59.php A pretty impressive result for some who's supposedly inactive. Susan Polgar never played "chess" against Bobby Fischer. She played him at Fischer Random Chess also now known as chess960 since there are 960 possible starting positions. Fischer calls chess the "old chess" and refuses to play it. and how did she get on at 960 against Fischer himself? ![]() PI Sam Sloan |
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"The Historian" wrote in message ups.com... As we continue to read this interesting document, we see that Trollgar has earned "the title of "Chess Ambassador"." A search of the Internet shows that the title of "Chess Ambassador" was awarded to Trollgar by herself and her male remora. All you need to know about Susan Polgar and her husband by 'Bend it like Brennan' the guy who drove her out of these very newsgroups - with a little help from his friends. I think a lawyer shut em up at the time since such messages could encourage real rather than virtual stalking. Leaving aside for now the puffery about "distance chess" nonsense (obviously Innes has never heard of correspondence chess), we note Mr. Innes in his biography finally admits to having a business interest in Shahcom, despite having denied it for years he "Synchronously with business activities, worked with the inventor of chess broadcasting technologies in St. Petersburg, Russia, since 1996, to promote greater world-wide interactions and audiences for chess." Let me pass on poor Neil's understanding of anything chessic, since I never found any. Phil Innes The chess may be high class, but the promotion of it is but another sack of Philth. |
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Polgar should have qualified for the zonal in Warsaw in 1986. She tied for second in the 1986 Hungarian Championship with Istvan Csom. It had been announced that the top three were in. The newspapers in Budapest announced in great headlines that Polgar had qualified for the zonal by finishing in the top 3. However, at that time, Sandor Serenyi, President of the Hungarian Chess Federation, was out of town. When he got back, he decreed that there had been a mistake in calculating the number of players that Hungary could send to the zonal. Hungary was only entitled to two players, not three. As Susan had a half point less in Berger tie- breaking points, Csom would go but not Susan, declared Serenyi. As I was in Budapest when this happened, I asked Csom to agree to play a match with Susan for the spot. Csom immediately agreed, saying that he was not especially interested in playing in the zonal anyway. However, later, in Dubai, during the chess Olympiad, Csom, with Adorjan as his translator, told me that he had changed his mind and was not willing to play a match with Polgar for the Zonal slot. Thus, Polgar never played in the zonal. Cramling had played in the European Zonal back in 1980 or 1981 in a previous cycle. Thus, Cramling was the first woman ever to qualify for the World Championship Cycle. Actually, Susan never got to play in the world championship cycle, so the issue is whether to count the incident in 1986 when, in my opinion, she should have been allowed to play but never got to play. Sam Sloan |
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GFY, sloan, I told you to stay the F out of SCM. Consider yourself
warned! On Aug 31, 7:14 pm, samsloan wrote: False Claims by Polgar Polgar propaganda constantly claims that Polgar is a "Four Times Woman's World Champion". This is not true. She only won the Woman's World Championship one time. That was in 1996. Now that she has been elected, this allegation appears on the USCF website. It will be interesting to see if this appears in Chess Life, where everybody will know that it is false. Needless to say, this question is not allowed to be asked on the USCF Forums Sam Sloan |
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Susan played in the 1993 PCA Interzonal, but not in the FIDE Interzonal. She finished dead last in a field of 54 players. http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/9496piix.htm The PCA was a rival organization set up by Kasparov when he split with FIDE but it failed and went out of business soon thereafter. Sam Sloan |
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FIDE has a new chart of "World Top" lists.
Take a look at the chart for Susan Polgar: http://www.fide.com/ratings/top_files.phtml?id=700088 Now, compare that with the chart for Pia Cramling: http://www.fide.com/ratings/top_files.phtml?id=1700030 As you can plainly see, Pia Cramling has been consistently ranked as one of the top rated women in the world in every FIDE rating list since these charts have come out. Pia Cramling is currently rated number 3 in the world, and has been so on the last several lists. This is because Cramling is an active player who plays in many tournaments every year and always keeps her rating active. On the other hand, Susan Polgar has made the top women's list in only one year: 2005, that because of two tournaments in which she played in 2004: The Oklahoma Challenge organized by Frank K. Berry and the 2004 World Chess Olympiad. Those two tournaments are the only two FIDE rated tournaments in which Susan Polgar has played in the last 11 years since 1996. Thus, the claim that Susan Polgar has been rated in the top three women in the world every year for the past 23 years is absolutely false. I would expect that the Swedes will protest if Chess Life publishes her claim. Sam Sloan |
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prove her claims to be false, without saying that she must prove her claims to be true. The normal rule is that one cannot prove a negative. Nevertheless, it is possible to prove a positive and she has not done so. Why is it that none of her claims are supported by the leading authorities on the game of chess? Why is it that none of these great accomplishments have been reported by ChessBase, The Week in Chess, New In Chess, Inside Chess, Europe Eschech or even by Chess Life magazine? Let us make a list and see where is the proof: "Grandmaster Susan Polgar is the winner of four Women's World Championships" When and where were those four Women's World Championships played? Why does The Week in Chess only mention one? Why is there no mention of these other three woman's world chess championships in any reputable chess publication? "She was also the first woman to qualify for the Men's World Championship cycle." When and where did this happen? What are the dates of this event? Why is there no mention of this in The Week in Chess, in Chess Base or in any other reputable chess publication. "Susan .... has remained in the top 3 for 23 straight years." Where is there evidence of this? Why is there no mention of this on the FIDE website? Why is she not even currently listed in the top ten in the world by any reputable source? Note that I have left out one of her other claims. That is the claim where she says, "She was the first woman to break the gender barrier to earn the Grandmaster title with the same qualifications as her male counterpart." I happen to agree with that one. However, others are disputing that point. I also understand that others are disputing her claim to hold the world record for simultaneous exhibitions. We have long ago given up asking Paul Truong about his claim to have won 11 National Championships. He has refused to tell us when and where he won those national championships or even in which country he won them. We have a letter from the Vietnam Chess Association stating that he never won the national championship of that country. I have also recently acquired every issue of Chess Life magazine since 1976 and there is no mention in any of those magazines of Paul Truong ever winning a national championship in this country, the USA. Why are not Susan Polgar and Paul Truong being asked about these matters, especially since they are now on the board? Sam Sloan |
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dates of her first qualification or participation. Susan also made the same statements during her commencement speech at Texas Tech. Many people have remarked about how good her speech was, but few seem to realize that her speech is filled with the same unproven claims as are made in the aforementioned USCF Press Release. In the video, now on youtube.com, "My Brilliant Brain - Make Me a Genius" Part 1, the announcer introduces "Paul Truong, a former US champion". When Susan beats him at one-minute chess, the announcer says "her opponent has run out of time the latest in a long line of distinguished victims." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPuHhWs8zy8 The words "Paul Truong, a former US champion" is, of course, a fabrication, as Paul Truong has never even played in the US Championship, much less won it. Incidentally, part 4 of the same video has an inside view of Susan's apartment where I stayed in 1986. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jzx6VYmGOM Sam Sloan |
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