The above is by New Board Member Paul Truong, who never signs his
name. Why is it, Mr. Truong, that you never sign your name to your
posts?

If the all of the above is true, why is it that nowhere in the FIDE
Handbook or on the FIDE website does it say that Susan Polgar won
these "World Championships". Why are we expected to go to her parent's
apartment in Budapest to find the evidence that she won and still
holds these championships? Why is it that you refuse to recognize the
difference between winning the World Championship for Girls Under-16
and winning the Woman's World Championship. Don't you know the
difference between a woman and a girl?

Most significantly, Paul Truong calls for action by the moderator. He
has done that dozens of times on this forum and he has always gotten
his way, getting posts he disagrees with deleted.

That helped him win the election too. The voting members had no way to
get informed about the serious doubts as to the truth and veracity of
the claims that Mr. Truong makes about himself and his devoted wife.
Mr. Truong has never provided any verification for his claims to have
won 11 national championships. He has never even stated when and where
these national championships were held, much less provided evidence
that he won them. Similarly as to his claim to have won 120 chess
tournaments, the evidence is that Paul Truong has never won a
tournament of any kind, none whatever, except for online tournaments
where computer assistance is available and very weak tournaments
against Class C and D opponents at the Polgar Chess Center.

I suspect that Mr. Truong will prevail again, getting this entire
thread deleted so that nobody can read it and determine for themselves
where the truth of the matter lies.

Everybody had better save the postings to this thread before it is too
late.

Sam Sloan

That topic on the USCF Forum has just been Locked by Tim Sawmiller.
Remember that the topic started with debates over the practice by Mr.
Sawmiller of massively deleting postings by forum members.

Here are the last two postings by Brian Mottershead:

The FIDE documents that Rodney is talking about are the photos of the
certificates framed on the apartment wall at her father's place (or
was it somewhere else?) They were for the 1st Melody Amber Blitz and
Rapid World Women's Championships, staged in the early 1990's. The
certificates have the FIDE logo on them, and there is an illegible
signature embossed with what seems to have been a FIDE seal. Nobody
has uncovered any FIDE document which mentions these Melody Amber
tournaments and it is impossible to know what the FIDE seal on these
certificates means. Lots of tournaments call themselves the something-
or-other World Championship, so that means nothing. On the other hand,
most of them don't hand out diplomas that have the FIDE seal on them.
So who knows?

It would help if somebody could find some record of the tournaments.
The Melody Amber events were never repeated, so Polgar can claim that
she is still the Melody Amber Blitz and Rapid World Women's Champion,
I guess. In contrast, the Melody Blindfold and Rapid tournament in
Monaco, which also started the same year, has been held every year
since, and has become a classic tournament. (Nobody thinks that one is
a World Championship.)

These two Melody Amber tournaments, out of the four "World Women's
Championships" Polgar claims, seem very debatable to me. There also
are a few questions about the under-16 championship. Be all that as it
may be, and putting the best possible light on all these tournaments,
it is completely reasonable to question whether it is misleading/false
to claim "four-times World Women's Champion" when three of the four
were not what people generally consider to be *the* overall World
Women's Championship but, at best, specialized championships or youth
championships.

Rodney is entitled to his opinion on all these matters. Other people,
including Sam Sloan, are entitled to their opinions. What seems
extremely dubious to me is for Rodney to insist that his view
represents the indisputable facts and that any other view is so
absolutely false and scurrilous that it must be suppressed as an
unsubstantiated personal attack, using his powers as a moderator.

Brian Mottershead

Brian Mottershead on Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:22 pm #69233

rfeditor wrote: You're the one who invented the claim "4-Time
Women's World Champion." Please find a citation in which Polgar used
those words, or admit that you lied.

John Hillery


John, that simply is not true. We saw that claim in several places,
none of which had anything to do with Sam Sloan. I've seen it on the
Texas Tech web site. I've seen it on the USCF web site. And, no, I'm
not going to "prove" it by finding links. For example,
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/communicati...-institute.php
You will have to take my word for it that there are plenty more.

Brian Mottershead

In addition, the President of Texas Tech University made similar
claims that Polgar had won the woman's world championship four times
and although Susan was present she did not correct him.

http://www.depts.ttu.edu/communicati...graduation.php

Sam Sloan

As I predicted, the Moderators of the USCF Forum have deleted several
of my postings including the above posting. Here is what they say:

tsawmiller wroteear samsloan,

Please tread carefully and stick to issues and facts. I have already
pulled two of your posts from "Free speech, bad laws, and a gathering
storm..." for violating the AUG rules regarding Being Polite and
Attacking people.

Regards,

Moderator7

My response follows:

Your general behavior is objectionable. You find it OK for people to
call me a liar when my posts are entirely accurate and then you accuse
me of being impolite and attacking people.

It is YOU who are being impolite and attacking people. That was the
point to the "gathering storm" thread.

Sam Sloan

Tim Sawmiller a/k/a Moderator7 has just locked a thread entitled "Free
speech, bad laws, and a gathering storm... " that was specifically
started (not be me) to criticize him.

I realize that Mr. Sawmiller does not like being criticized but the
way to deal with it is not to simply lock threads in which he is being
criticized. Rather he should simply resign.

Sam Sloan

On Sep 15, 8:55 pm, samsloan wrote:
In addition, the President of Texas Tech University made similar
claims that Polgar had won the woman's world championship four times
and although Susan was present she did not correct him.

http://www.depts.ttu.edu/communicati...deos/susan-pol...

Sam Sloan

While on the subject of Grandmaster Polgar's not correcting false
statements, remember this one from 2005?:

Strangely enough, the "First Press Release" distributed by the
Innes/Mitchell team described GM Polgar as "ranked in the top three
in the world for the last twenty years. Polgar is currently ranked
#1 in the United States." No mention that this is a woman's title and
a
ranking on a woman's list. ChessBase made the correction, of course,
but then again, they know chess. The press release was sent to
non-chessplayers, or in other words people who would not know the
truth
about Trollgar. This betrays the fine hand of Philth Innes, who has
used this method of lying before; he once claimed to be "nearly an IM"
on a Shakespeare newsgroup.

As we continue to read this interesting document, we see that Trollgar
has earned "the title of "Chess Ambassador"." A search of the
Internet shows that the title of "Chess Ambassador" was awarded to
Trollgar by herself and her male remora.

Leaving aside for now the puffery about "distance chess" nonsense
(obviously Innes has never heard of correspondence chess), we note Mr.
Innes in his biography finally admits to having a business interest in
Shahcom, despite having denied it for years he "Synchronously with
business activities, worked with the inventor of chess broadcasting
technologies in St. Petersburg, Russia, since 1996, to promote greater
world-wide interactions and audiences for chess."

The chess may be high class, but the promotion of it is but another
sack of Philth.

I did not bring it over to the Polgar issues. Tanstaafl a/k/a
Moderator6 did when he wrote that he had deleted the entire thread in
which I and others said that Polgar had not won the Woman's World
Championship four times because, according to tanstaafl, it was
unethical for me to say that.

The way it finally ended was Paul Truong posted a lengthy screed in
which he called for moderator intervention (as he always does when
things are not going well for him) and sure enough he got his wish as
my response was deleted whereas his attack was allowed to stand.

Sam Sloan

You are playing with words. You never did tell me or the others who
had posted to that thread exactly why the entire thread was removed.
There were as I recall about 100 posts to that thread by a wide
variety of posters pro and con and you deleted all of them.

Sam Sloan

On Sep 16, 7:08 am, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanstaafl Quote: Originally Posted by samsloan ... I did not bring it over to the Polgar issues. Tanstaafl a/k/a Moderator6 did when he wrote that he had deleted the entire thread in which I and others said that Polgar had not won the Woman's World Championship four times because, according to tanstaafl, it was unethical for me to say that. ... Sam Sloan This is a false statement. I didn't accuse Mr. Sloan of unethical conduct for that action and that was not the reason the thread was pulled. Since the reasons are very simple and explained adequately in the other thread, I see no reason to repeat the material here.

You are playing with words. You never did tell me or the others who
had posted to that thread exactly why the entire thread was removed.
There were as I recall about 100 posts to that thread by a wide
variety of posters pro and con and you deleted all of them.

Sam Sloan

Most are removed because of comments made by Mohamed Sloan:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/...ESS/message/55