On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:45:20 -0700, Rob wrote:

..
There's no sign that the Gothic Chess organization was trying to "con"
anyone. ...
..
I have communicated to the poster about correcting the errors in his
post. Commenting on something in public further on the details on
things of a private contractual nature is not prudent.

Having read the Gothic Chess blog, I have to say the Tennessee folks
come off not as con men, but as turtles trying to swim in the shark
tank.

What say you Rob? Prudence be damned, let's hear your side of the
story.

Funny thing is: I am viewing this topic from Google. It lists 10 posts
above this one. Posts 6, 7, 8 and 9 include two from The Historian,
one from samsloan and the last from Rob.

Posts 6, 7, 8 and 9 are unreadable. I suspect that Rob was trying to
do some trick to delete this topic.

Do you see the same thing over there? Can you explain this?

Sam Sloan

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:46:36 -0700, samsloan
wrote:

Funny thing is: I am viewing this topic from Google. It lists 10 posts
above this one. Posts 6, 7, 8 and 9 include two from The Historian,
one from samsloan and the last from Rob.

Posts 6, 7, 8 and 9 are unreadable. I suspect that Rob was trying to
do some trick to delete this topic.

Do you see the same thing over there? Can you explain this?

Sam Sloan


I'm using Forte Agent and everything looks fine. The posts would
benefit from some judicious snipping, but they're readable.

On Sep 23, 9:27 am, Mike Murray wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:45:20 -0700, Rob wrote:

.

There's no sign that the Gothic Chess organization was trying to "con"
anyone. ...
.
I have communicated to the poster about correcting the errors in his
post. Commenting on something in public further on the details on
things of a private contractual nature is not prudent.

Having read the Gothic Chess blog, I have to say the Tennessee folks
come off not as con men, but as turtles trying to swim in the shark
tank.

What say you Rob? Prudence be damned, let's hear your side of the
story.

There doesn't appear to be any change in the Gothic Chess blog
posting.

On Sep 23, 10:27 am, Mike Murray wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:45:20 -0700, Rob wrote:

.

There's no sign that the Gothic Chess organization was trying to "con"
anyone. ...
.
I have communicated to the poster about correcting the errors in his
post. Commenting on something in public further on the details on
things of a private contractual nature is not prudent.

Having read the Gothic Chess blog, I have to say the Tennessee folks
come off not as con men, but as turtles trying to swim in the shark
tank.

What say you Rob? Prudence be damned, let's hear your side of the
story.

Rob Mitchell wants prudence !!!

What about his hundreds of baseless attacks against me just because I
kicked him out of my private email group, after he repeatedly refused
to obey the one rule my group has?

Frankly, I am beginning to doubt that Rob Mitchell is a life insurance
salesman at all. He probably just makes his living swindling people
out of their houses, and he finally tried to swindle the wrong guy,
who has gone public with what happened.

Sam Sloan

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:55:47 -0700, Mike Murray
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:46:36 -0700, samsloan
wrote:

Funny thing is: I am viewing this topic from Google. It lists 10 posts
above this one. Posts 6, 7, 8 and 9 include two from The Historian,
one from samsloan and the last from Rob.

Posts 6, 7, 8 and 9 are unreadable. I suspect that Rob was trying to
do some trick to delete this topic.

Do you see the same thing over there? Can you explain this?

Sam Sloan


I'm using Forte Agent and everything looks fine. The posts would
benefit from some judicious snipping, but they're readable.

I checked the same thread using Google and it appears Rob has deleted
his posts, which may have caused the responses to look funny.

BTW, that's one advantage of using a real newsreader like Forte. You
keep the posts locally, regardless of whether the originator deletes
'em. An audit trail of who said and when is often useful.

On Sep 24, 11:45 am, Mike Murray wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:55:47 -0700, Mike Murray



wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:46:36 -0700, samsloan
wrote:

Funny thing is: I am viewing this topic from Google. It lists 10 posts
above this one. Posts 6, 7, 8 and 9 include two from The Historian,
one from samsloan and the last from Rob.

Posts 6, 7, 8 and 9 are unreadable. I suspect that Rob was trying to
do some trick to delete this topic.

Do you see the same thing over there? Can you explain this?

Sam Sloan

I'm using Forte Agent and everything looks fine. The posts would
benefit from some judicious snipping, but they're readable.

I checked the same thread using Google and it appears Rob has deleted
his posts, which may have caused the responses to look funny.

BTW, that's one advantage of using a real newsreader like Forte. You
keep the posts locally, regardless of whether the originator deletes
'em. An audit trail of who said and when is often useful.

Mike,
I have deleted no posts from this thread.
Rob

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:18:37 -0700, Rob wrote:


I checked the same thread using Google and it appears Rob has deleted
his posts, which may have caused the responses to look funny.

Mike,
I have deleted no posts from this thread.
Rob

The following post seems to have disappeared from Google. I accept
your word that you didn't delete it. And it's entirely possible that
I'm misunderstanding something about the way Google handles replies.

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:45:20 -0700, Rob wrote:


This seems to be the post that disappeared from Google
On Sep 21, 5:41 am, The Historian wrote:
On Sep 21, 3:24 am, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Miller Sam: Why do you think the F-K Gothic Chess Match was a "con"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Miller The signature from Karpov on the website looks a lot like the autograph of his that I have. I got it when he was in Seattle now many years ago for a candidates match. The Goodwill Games people had me and several other chess people for a lunch with Karpov and his then wife. The pictures from Iceland look real enough. Of course Fischer never showed up to sign. Wonder how much Fischer got in advance to come to the meeting in Iceland that he never came to. That action as I understand is typical of Bobby over the years. It took a lot of effort to get him to Iceland to play the 1972 match. The Gothic Chess fellow probably did not have the time to wait around for Fischer. Sam, thanks for posting the website giving more details than what has appears on "the other forum". Rusty Miller, Chelan WA

I have no doubt that the signature of Karpov is real. Of course,
Karpov will play a match with anybody at anything for 14 million
dollars (as would you or me).

However, the whole thing was absurd, ridiculous.

The guy's plan was then to get Fischer to sign and then to go to
Donald Trump and ask him for the 14 million (as though Trump, who is
often bankrupt, would give 14 million for such a scheme).

Stranger things have happened.

In the middle of this was Rob Mitchell, who is undoubtedly the same
Rob Mitchell who I banned from my Yahoo group (thereby acquiring the
distinction of being the only person ever to be banned from my group).
Rob Mitchell wanted to be paid $35,000 in advance, claiming that he
already had both Fischer and Karpov on board, when it turned out that
Karpov had never heard of him and Fischer obviously had not either.

The address at the bottom of the Chess Masterminds LLC "deal memo" is
that of Mr. Mitchell's insurance agency in Nashville. While we should
be careful to note that we have only one person's word regarding the
incident, much of the story rings true based on what I've read on the
newsgroup and what I've seen of Mr. Mitchell's behavior and the
company he travels with.

So, it was a bunch of people trying to con each other, none of whom
knew anything about chess or had any money.

There's no sign that the Gothic Chess organization was trying to "con"
anyone. You as a trader banned from the securities industry should
know a con as well as anyone, but it appears you are badly mistaken.

As for not knowing anything about chess, the founder of the Gothic
Chess group was a regular player in the Philadelphia area. He knew Dan
Heisman, as the blog posting explained. I published a correspondence
game between Ed Trice and Samuel Reshevsky in one of my first articles
for Correspondence Chess News.

I have communicated to the poster about correcting the errors in his
post. Commenting on something in public further on the details on
things of a private contractual nature is not prudent.

On Sep 24, 5:02 pm, Mike Murray wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:18:37 -0700, Rob wrote:
I checked the same thread using Google and it appears Rob has deleted
his posts, which may have caused the responses to look funny.
Mike,
I have deleted no posts from this thread.
Rob

The following post seems to have disappeared from Google. I accept
your word that you didn't delete it. And it's entirely possible that
I'm misunderstanding something about the way Google handles replies.

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:45:20 -0700, Rob wrote:

This seems to be the post that disappeared from Google

On Sep 21, 5:41 am, The Historian wrote:
On Sep 21, 3:24 am, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Miller Sam: Why do you think the F-K Gothic Chess Match was a "con"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Miller The signature from Karpov on the website looks a lot like the autograph of his that I have. I got it when he was in Seattle now many years ago for a candidates match. The Goodwill Games people had me and several other chess people for a lunch with Karpov and his then wife. The pictures from Iceland look real enough. Of course Fischer never showed up to sign. Wonder how much Fischer got in advance to come to the meeting in Iceland that he never came to. That action as I understand is typical of Bobby over the years. It took a lot of effort to get him to Iceland to play the 1972 match. The Gothic Chess fellow probably did not have the time to wait around for Fischer. Sam, thanks for posting the website giving more details than what has appears on "the other forum". Rusty Miller, Chelan WA

I have no doubt that the signature of Karpov is real. Of course,
Karpov will play a match with anybody at anything for 14 million
dollars (as would you or me).

However, the whole thing was absurd, ridiculous.

The guy's plan was then to get Fischer to sign and then to go to
Donald Trump and ask him for the 14 million (as though Trump, who is
often bankrupt, would give 14 million for such a scheme).

Stranger things have happened.

In the middle of this was Rob Mitchell, who is undoubtedly the same
Rob Mitchell who I banned from my Yahoo group (thereby acquiring the
distinction of being the only person ever to be banned from my group).
Rob Mitchell wanted to be paid $35,000 in advance, claiming that he
already had both Fischer and Karpov on board, when it turned out that
Karpov had never heard of him and Fischer obviously had not either.

The address at the bottom of the Chess Masterminds LLC "deal memo" is
that of Mr. Mitchell's insurance agency in Nashville. While we should
be careful to note that we have only one person's word regarding the
incident, much of the story rings true based on what I've read on the
newsgroup and what I've seen of Mr. Mitchell's behavior and the
company he travels with.

So, it was a bunch of people trying to con each other, none of whom
knew anything about chess or had any money.

There's no sign that the Gothic Chess organization was trying to "con"
anyone. You as a trader banned from the securities industry should
know a con as well as anyone, but it appears you are badly mistaken.

As for not knowing anything about chess, the founder of the Gothic
Chess group was a regular player in the Philadelphia area. He knew Dan
Heisman, as the blog posting explained. I published a correspondence
game between Ed Trice and Samuel Reshevsky in one of my first articles
for Correspondence Chess News.

I have communicated to the poster about correcting the errors in his
post. Commenting on something in public further on the details on
things of a private contractual nature is not prudent.

And the post remains unchanged.

On Sep 23, 9:27 am, Mike Murray wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:45:20 -0700, Rob wrote:

.

There's no sign that the Gothic Chess organization was trying to "con"
anyone. ...
.
I have communicated to the poster about correcting the errors in his
post. Commenting on something in public further on the details on
things of a private contractual nature is not prudent.

Having read the Gothic Chess blog, I have to say the Tennessee folks
come off not as con men, but as turtles trying to swim in the shark
tank.

What say you Rob? Prudence be damned, let's hear your side of the
story.

The Gothic Chess blog posting hasn't changed. The author must have
been impressed with Mitchell's request it be 'corrected.'