On Sep 26, 5:05 pm, " wrote:

Speaking of Arnold's result in the 1995 U.S.
Open, I gave his win (which is listed as a draw in my
CL article) over Emmanuel Perez, rated 2388 at the
time. Perez as Black grabbed the b-pawn, and we know
the rest. Arnold made it look so easy, which we know
it was not. I introduced that game with this comment:
"A strong young master learned the octogenarians,
bald and benevolent, bite."

Larry, I was already aware of Denker's rather uncritical admiration
for Campomanes and Ilyumzhinov, and of course your disdain for them
(which I share), so it was not surprising that your article mentioned
how you and Denker were often at loggerheads on FIDE politics. I was
wondering if he ever finally changed his mind about either, or did he
continue to support them even after Campomanes' financial malfeasance
and Ilyumzhinov's mismanagement and lunacy became obvious?

Kenneth Sloan wrote:
Chess One wrote:
"in 1995, at age 81, he finished sixth in the U. S. Open."

Brava!

Is that Andean?

No, it's Italian. But only when you're applauding a woman.


Dave.

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David Richerby wrote:
Kenneth Sloan wrote:
Chess One wrote:
"in 1995, at age 81, he finished sixth in the U. S. Open."

Brava!
Is that Andean?

No, it's Italian. But only when you're applauding a woman.


Arnold was a woman?

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On Oct 1, 9:21 pm, Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Brava!
Is that Andean?

No, it's Italian. But only when you're applauding a woman.

Arnold was a woman?


No. But in Andean (a rare and little-studied language
mastered only by ackuddemiks like IM Innes), gender is
reversed; hence, bravo becomes brava, and vice-a becomes
versa.

It is rumored that soon after AD learned how the pieces
moved, one loser shouted "you play like a girl!"; ever after-
ward, Arnold Denker leaned a bit too-heavily toward wild,
reckless attacking play, as if to prove his manhood. But,
no, he definitely wasn't a woman. Ah, if only he had been!
Dear old Vera Menchik would not have been the only one
with her own club!

I think Dr. Sir IM Innes has a desperate need to try and
impress others with fakery, with pretensions to mastery
of fields in which he is a rank beginner. Take chess, for
instance; no, that was Rob Mitchell, who turned out not
to be IM Innes after all. Okay then, take anything other
than chess as an example.


I was at www.chessgames.com looking over a few of
Arnold Denker's games and noticed that a few of the
very top players in the world had no particular trouble
with him. But when I played over, for instance, a win
by GM Botvinnik, I noticed that it was precisely the
same opening he always played, and probably had
spent countless hours studying before the game. In
sum, virtually no one (except GM Fischer!) could hope
to stand a chance against all that preparation in this
"long variation" Slav Defense. (They still play it today,
and it's 95% pre-game prep.) Others who seemed to
have little trouble with AD were GMs Reshevsky and
Smyslov -- both top players.


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"David Richerby" wrote in message
...
Kenneth Sloan wrote:
Chess One wrote:
"in 1995, at age 81, he finished sixth in the U. S. Open."

Brava!

Is that Andean?

No, it's Italian. But only when you're applauding a woman.

like L'Opera at La Scala

notes: 'Muricanis not a universal language, English is, and because it takes
words from other languages to incorporate them. Now, America has invented
many things, but English invented the computer medium where you now read
this, and the English invented English.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Old-Fashioned Solar-Powered Ghost
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ (TM): it's like a haunting spirit
but
it doesn't work in the dark and
it's
perfect for your grandparents!

On Oct 2, 6:49 am, "Chess One" wrote:

notes: 'Muricanis not a universal language, English is, and because it takes
words from other languages to incorporate them. Now, America has invented
many things, but English invented the computer medium where you now read
this, and the English invented English.

Languages are not "invented" like an electric light bulb,
they are developed or derived and they evolve from earlier
languages.

IMO, it is silly to credit any people for the development
of their native language; this is like crediting cows for
inventing mooing; like crediting birds for having invented
the chirp; like crediting lions for the roar, fish for swimming,
Damiano for 2. ...f6. Here's the litmus test: it is said that
there are more people in China who speak English than in
the USA -- so then, what dialect do all these Chinese
speak: British, Australian, American, or (so solly), their
very own?

When I was a very young bot, we had an old (even then)
dictionary of titanic proportions which showed in the front
cover how English was derived from other languages, most
notably perhaps, Germanic languages. Example: our days
of the week are named for Norse gods like Tiu, Woden, Thor,
and Frigga (that's half female, half male, amazingly). Of
course, none of that fits in nicely with IM Innes and his need
to grab the credit for any and everything for his homeland
(not Vermont! His imaginary homeland, G.B. or Ireland,
depending on whim).

At any rate, the idea was to talk about something (anything,
really) other than the yet-another-stupid-blunder by IM Innes
in the realm of language, which he pretends to know all about.
So you can see, we have succeeded. Red herrings work, and
we Americans know this because *we* perfected them.


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On Oct 1, 9:21 pm, Kenneth Sloan wrote:
David Richerby wrote:
Kenneth Sloan wrote:
Chess One wrote:
"in 1995, at age 81, he finished sixth in the U. S. Open."

Brava!
Is that Andean?

No, it's Italian. But only when you're applauding a woman.

Arnold was a woman?

No, but Philsy is as good a woman as any.

"help bot" wrote in message
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On Oct 2, 6:49 am, "Chess One" wrote:

notes: 'Muricanis not a universal language, English is, and because it
takes
words from other languages to incorporate them. Now, America has invented
many things, but English invented the computer medium where you now read
this, and the English invented English.

Languages are not "invented" like an electric light bulb,
they are developed or derived and they evolve from earlier
languages.

Only sometimes, my friend! Otherwise we would be hunting around for the
Anglo Saxon word for Robot, right? Or 'quark', or in fact the 300-400 new
words that get formally adopted into the language per year. You grokking my
fullness?

IMO, it is silly to credit any people for the development
of their native language; this is like crediting cows for
inventing mooing; like crediting birds for having invented
the chirp; like crediting lions for the roar, fish for swimming,

silly to credit fish for swimming and birds for flying? its a fascinating
theory, and i wish you would say more about it. is this something about
alternative reality, rather than evolution? like space-people taught the
birds to fly, and also saddled up those dinosaurs, which i believe can even
be viewed in some museums?

having been exposed to that, i suppose its natural to not credit fish for
swimming &c

Damiano for 2. ...f6. Here's the litmus test: it is said that
there are more people in China who speak English than in
the USA -- so then, what dialect do all these Chinese
speak:

you already mixed your matadors: first you say English, then you say
dialect. but how much English do they got?
famously french people can't undersand high-school learned English, which is
proper and grammatical, but French people don't speak that way, and the
unwonted emphasis in pronunciation makes most peoples attempt to speak
French to them, incomprehensible

British, Australian, American, or (so solly), their
very own?

I think you answer your own question by naming dialect variants, ie,
'Muriken is a dialect form of English as spoke in the cornfields.

Now in Britland itself, there are many dialects, some so different from
others that people have to use those close-captioned text things on the TV
to understand each other.

When I was a very young bot, we had an old (even then)
dictionary of titanic proportions

Did it mention where the Titans came from, or was that all Greek to it? And
perhaps you know the biblical transcription of the word giant, which is a
Celtic word! saetan!

which showed in the front
cover how English was derived from other languages, most
notably perhaps, Germanic languages.

Majoritively from Englisc, which is a northern Saxon tongue, and the
dominant one in the south of England, which combines with Norse, as in the
Danelaw [East], plus Mercian, which is to the mid and north of England, and
in fact an invented name to describe it, since we don't know what name they
gave it themselves.

And all mixed with a base of Celtic languages [west], says John Fowles, and
Prof. J. R. R. Tolkien, and Tom Shippey.

Its the phonemes which are important, you see - and those invented languages
in Lord of the Rings are very serious investigations into the sound of
things, the phonology, and their origins, so that the Elvish language is the
proxy for the Celtic one, and the language or [proper] names are of Rohan
and are quintessentially Anglo Saxon ones.

Example: our days
of the week are named for Norse gods like Tiu, Woden, Thor,
and Frigga (that's half female, half male, amazingly). Of
course, none of that fits in nicely with IM Innes and his need
to grab the credit for any and everything for his homeland
(not Vermont! His imaginary homeland, G.B. or Ireland,
depending on whim).

I am just teasing you country-folk since you, despite the overwhelming
volume of your opinions, cannot quite match that to your knowledge of what
lies beyond the cornbelt.

At any rate, the idea was to talk about something (anything,
really) other than the yet-another-stupid-blunder by IM Innes
in the realm of language, which he pretends to know all about.
So you can see, we have succeeded. Red herrings work, and
we Americans know this because *we* perfected them.

Challengers to authority are always sincere in acknowledging that the thing
or person challenged is an authority! I admit, you can father all the
red-herrings you can, but do you know what a white-herring is?

Cordially, Philology Innes

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On Oct 2, 10:05 pm, help bot wrote:
On Oct 2, 6:49 am, "Chess One" wrote:

notes: 'Muricanis not a universal language, English is, and because it takes
words from other languages to incorporate them. Now, America has invented
many things, but English invented the computer medium where you now read
this, and the English invented English.

Languages are not "invented" like an electric light bulb,
they are developed or derived and they evolve from earlier
languages.

IMO, it is silly to credit any people for the development
of their native language; this is like crediting cows for
inventing mooing; like crediting birds for having invented
the chirp; like crediting lions for the roar, fish for swimming,
Damiano for 2. ...f6. Here's the litmus test: it is said that
there are more people in China who speak English than in
the USA -- so then, what dialect do all these Chinese
speak: British, Australian, American, or (so solly), their
very own?



When I was a very young bot, we had an old (even then)
dictionary of titanic proportions which showed in the front
cover how English was derived from other languages, most
notably perhaps, Germanic languages. Example: our days
of the week are named for Norse gods like Tiu, Woden, Thor,
and Frigga (that's half female, half male, amazingly). Of
course, none of that fits in nicely with IM Innes and his need
to grab the credit for any and everything for his homeland
(not Vermont! His imaginary homeland, G.B. or Ireland,
depending on whim).

You didn't tell us where the others days came from. I think some are
of Celtic origin, yes?

At any rate, the idea was to talk about something (anything,
really) other than the yet-another-stupid-blunder by IM Innes
in the realm of language, which he pretends to know all about.
So you can see, we have succeeded. Red herrings work, and
we Americans know this because *we* perfected them.

-- help bot