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On Oct 8, 5:48 am, "B. Lafferty" wrote:
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On Oct 8, 2:49 am, Gregory wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:39 am, wrote:

On Oct 8, 2:20 am, wrote:

One defendant is blogging the plaintiff he

http://direkickfeud.blogspot.com/

It's a work in progress.

I have still not been served (I park at the SE corner of
Harrison
&
State around 7:45 a.m. most days; going in early today,
however.)

Bill Brock, Chicago

Bill Brock

Sam isn't going to serve all of those defendants. After all, you
should be honored that you got sued along with the UNITED STATES
OF
AMERICA. Just how many people get sued with Uncle Sam? Not that
damn
many!

Don't gloat! You get to be in a unique clique. I thought that
this
was
well settled constitutional law, but Professor Sloan is going to
teach
you and the good ole USA a lesson! You might get to go to the US
Supreme Court and dual it out with Sam Sloan!!!!!!!!!!! I am sure
Cheif Justice Roberts will give you guys his FULL attention! 9-0,
30
days in jail for contempt when Sloan doesn't get to speak a word!

Did you read in the article where Troung broke the USCF forum
rules
and threatened to countersue the USCF?

Congrualtations

Marcus Roberts

Hi Marcus,

Most of the defendants, including G-d and the US, have nothing to
do
with this case at all. The shotgun approach that Sam is using
should
be testament to the very case in general. Mr. Sloan has many
personal
targets unfortunately.

I am sorry that someone hacked you; but the evidence provided is
extraordinarily weak and it is a political witch-hunt authorized by
the current ED. Any technical kid can spoof an IP address Marcus.
Ask
a technical layman that you know.

Regards,

Gregory- Hide quoted text -

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It is possible to frame Paul Troung. Yes, I'll admit, it is
possible.

In a criminal sense, I do see reasonable doubt. In a civil sense,
the
standard is lessor than beyod a reasonalbe doubt. These are
thousands
of posts we are dealing with, if the New York Times report is
correct,
I do not believe an imposter is likely.

So, my opinion based on the New York Times

Troung - gulity of being a fake sam slan
Sloan - probably faked himself, or another on the morning of August
2,
2007.
Russian - a third fake sam sloan, but I can't prove it or disprove
it,
becasue of the reason that any IP address could be spoofed.

It could all be a plot by Kirsan Ilyumzhinov to take over the world
of
chess, but I simply doubt it. Troung sent libelous e-mails about me
to
FIDE. He has engaged in a PATTERN of INSANE behavior.

Troung has erputed before....

Marcus Roberts

Marcus

Truong also sent a defamatory email about me to the federation, behind
my
back, to which my attorney in NYC responded.

And since you refuse to reveal what he allegedly wrote, the only
evidence we have that such a statement was made or that it was false
would be, let's see, your unsupported assertion. Sam doesn't know any
better. You do.

The essence of what Mr. Truong wrote was addressed in my attorney's
letter
which has been made public, as you no doubt know.

Mr. Lafferty, where has this been "made public?"


http://mysite.verizon.net/vzewuo9u/

Well?

On Oct 8, 9:54 am, wrote:
Well?

Hmm, libelous suggestions of stalking women.... if the letter does
convey the essence of Truong's email, this seems to be another shared
trait between the 'Dr.' and the Nearly an IM 2450.

On Oct 8, 9:58 am, The Historian wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:54 am, wrote:

Well?

Hmm, libelous suggestions of stalking women.... if the letter does
convey the essence of Truong's email, this seems to be another shared
trait between the 'Dr.' and the Nearly an IM 2450.


Sorry, I responded to the wrong post....

On Oct 8, 7:02 am, WPraeder wrote:
On Oct 8, 3:49 am, Gregory wrote:





On Oct 8, 12:39 am, wrote:

On Oct 8, 2:20 am, wrote:

One defendant is blogging the plaintiff he

http://direkickfeud.blogspot.com/

It's a work in progress.

I have still not been served (I park at the SE corner of Harrison &
State around 7:45 a.m. most days; going in early today, however.)

Bill Brock, Chicago

Bill Brock

Sam isn't going to serve all of those defendants. After all, you
should be honored that you got sued along with the UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA. Just how many people get sued with Uncle Sam? Not that damn
many!

Don't gloat! You get to be in a unique clique. I thought that this was
well settled constitutional law, but Professor Sloan is going to teach
you and the good ole USA a lesson! You might get to go to the US
Supreme Court and dual it out with Sam Sloan!!!!!!!!!!! I am sure
Cheif Justice Roberts will give you guys his FULL attention! 9-0, 30
days in jail for contempt when Sloan doesn't get to speak a word!

Did you read in the article where Troung broke the USCF forum rules
and threatened to countersue the USCF?

Congrualtations

Marcus Roberts

Hi Marcus,

Most of the defendants, including G-d and the US, have nothing to do
with this case at all. The shotgun approach that Sam is using should
be testament to the very case in general. Mr. Sloan has many personal
targets unfortunately.

I am sorry that someone hacked you; but the evidence provided is
extraordinarily weak and it is a political witch-hunt authorized by
the current ED. Any technical kid can spoof an IP address Marcus. Ask
a technical layman that you know.

Regards,

Gregory- Hide quoted text -

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Gregory,

Thank you for lending your views to the discussion.

Note this appears to be a very serious public allegation against the
USCF Executive Director that he has authorized a political witch-
hunt. I would hope you will pursue this matter through proper
channels so it can be resolved.

As you know we are talking about dynamically forging a specific IP and
User Agent on Usenet. Since I understand you are far more experienced
than a technical kid, can you show us or provide us with information
on how this can be done? Also feel free to email me privately with the
information.

Regards,
Wayne Praeder- Hide quoted text -

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USCF google group has just such a posting. It is even a video.

http://groups.google.com/group/USCF-Chess
Rob

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:42:20 -0700, Rob wrote:


As you know we are talking about dynamically forging a specific IP and
User Agent on Usenet. Since I understand you are far more experienced
than a technical kid, can you show us or provide us with information
on how this can be done? Also feel free to email me privately with the
information.

Regards,


USCF google group has just such a posting. It is even a video.

http://groups.google.com/group/USCF-Chess
Rob


It's not that simple, Rob. From a post Brian M made on Chess Ninja:


....the Fake Sam Sloan posts were almost all injected using Google's
news server which, as you know, provides a web-based interface. This
does not let you specify the NNTP-Posting_Host. Google probably gets
the posting host IP from the HTTP connection of the poster, which...
is "hard" (I would have said virtually impossible) to spoof. So your
IP spoofing strategies are not applicable in this case.

Besides the fact that nobody can explain how the Fake Sam Sloan could
have spoofed IP addresses in his Usenet posts through the Google news
server, it also hasn't been explained how the Fake Sam Sloan poster
found out which IP addresses to spoof.

This problem of finding out what to spoof applies also to the User
Agent strings, which also match. Those are pretty easy to spoof,
unlike IP addresses, but as with the IP addresses you still have to
know what user agent strings to spoof.

Indeed, the alleged "spoofer" had to be able to learn what IP
addresses and user agent strings to spoof regularly and at will over
the course of 18 months. And, when the person he was framing switched
computers or internet connections, he had to know when to switch to
different user agent strings and IP addresses, so that the ones he was
spoofing would continue to match.

On Oct 8, 3:50 pm, Mike Murray wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:42:20 -0700, Rob wrote:
As you know we are talking about dynamically forging a specific IP and
User Agent on Usenet. Since I understand you are far more experienced
than a technical kid, can you show us or provide us with information
on how this can be done? Also feel free to email me privately with the
information.
Regards,

USCF google group has just such a posting. It is even a video.

http://groups.google.com/group/USCF-Chess
Rob

It's not that simple, Rob. From a post Brian M made on Chess Ninja:

...the Fake Sam Sloan posts were almost all injected using Google's
news server which, as you know, provides a web-based interface. This
does not let you specify the NNTP-Posting_Host. Google probably gets
the posting host IP from the HTTP connection of the poster, which...
is "hard" (I would have said virtually impossible) to spoof. So your
IP spoofing strategies are not applicable in this case.

Besides the fact that nobody can explain how the Fake Sam Sloan could
have spoofed IP addresses in his Usenet posts through the Google news
server, it also hasn't been explained how the Fake Sam Sloan poster
found out which IP addresses to spoof.

This problem of finding out what to spoof applies also to the User
Agent strings, which also match. Those are pretty easy to spoof,
unlike IP addresses, but as with the IP addresses you still have to
know what user agent strings to spoof.

Indeed, the alleged "spoofer" had to be able to learn what IP
addresses and user agent strings to spoof regularly and at will over
the course of 18 months. And, when the person he was framing switched
computers or internet connections, he had to know when to switch to
different user agent strings and IP addresses, so that the ones he was
spoofing would continue to match.

If they were posted via email injection it isnt the same as direct
posting. Could not the IP address be modified through your "fake"
email account?

On Oct 8, 4:42 pm, Rob wrote:

USCF google group has just such a posting. It is even a video.

http://groups.google.com/group/USCF-Chess
Rob

"Rob" fails to tell you that the posting was made by himself. He wants
people to join his group. Here it is:

Much has been claimed lately. Anyone can easily fake an IP address.
This video shows you how it is done.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/331953...ur_ip_address/

However, the above site merely tells you how to create an anonymous IP
address. He does not tell you how to create an IP address matching the
IP address of your target. As a result, it is wholly inapplicable.

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:55:46 -0700, Rob wrote:


If they were posted via email injection it isnt the same as direct
posting. Could not the IP address be modified through your "fake"
email account?

Are you saying they weren't posted via Google ?

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Truong also sent a defamatory email about me to the federation, behind my
back, to which my attorney in NYC responded.

And since you refuse to reveal what he allegedly wrote, the only
evidence we have that such a statement was made or that it was false
would be, let's see, your unsupported assertion. Sam doesn't know any
better. You do.

The essence of what Mr. Truong wrote was addressed in my attorney's letter
which has been made public, as you no doubt know.

Ah, yes, and I'm sure _your_ attorney described the matter in a
completely fair and objective manner. (Pause for uncontrollable
mirth.) Without knowing what was actually said, there's no way for us
to determine whether the statements were actionable or true. I guess
we'll have to wonder whether this was a legitimate complaint, or just
another abuse of the legal system for purposes of harassment (Sam
Sloan with a bath and a new suit).