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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:38:51 -0700, Randy Bauer
wrote: Good luck with that, Brian. I'm sure it will be really high on the FBI's list of things to do. Let's see, how might that list go? 1. Root out terror cells in the US that threaten to blow up planes, buildings, etc. 2. Investigate and apprehend those charged with federal crimes including kidnapping, murder, rape, etc. 3. Investigate those charged with fake postings on chess newsgroups Yep, I'll bet that is the list all right. Randy Bauer This reminds me of our Washington King County Councilwoman Jane Hague who was recently pulled over for driving under the influence. According to the police report, Hague harangued the cops with "Don't you have rapists to take off the street?" Amazingly enough, this ploy failed to work. A former in-law of mine, an attorney, said he often had trouble getting the local cops to respond to dogs barking, annoying tenants in a rental he owned. They didn't want to mess with such penny-ante nuisance items. He said he always called the city attorney's office and told them if they didn't file charges against the dog owner, he'd file charges against them for misfeasance. The squeaky wheel and the greater paperwork theories combined to get results every time. |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 8, 7:21 pm, "B. Lafferty" wrote: Mr. Lafferty, my reputation has been damaged by a former Board member of the United States Chess Federation. You may wish that the lies of Mr. Goichberg's handyman were not at issue, but they are. What standing do you have to receive a copy of the (drumroll, please) "Mottershead Report." Mr. Mottershead is reporting on yet another board that it has not been promulgated beyond Board members. My standing is that of the victim of a crime under Federal statute. It is also my understanding that NDAs do not prevent disclosure of criminal activity. Saints that we all are, we are each and every one of us acting in the fiduciary interest of the nonprofit organization. Having said said, are you otherwise, formally or informally, representing any party other than yourself? To my knowledge, I have not appeared as attorney of record in any litigation or other matter requiring a notice of appearance. |
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With all due respect to ueschessmon/nycchessmon, this is not about Mr.
Sloan's character, Mr. Brock's character or Ms. Polgar's orifice that I on one occasion regrettably referred to as a pie hole. This is about the criminal use of the internet to harass targeted victims for political and perhaps other purposes. Brian Lafferty- Good luck with that, Brian. I'm sure it will be really high on the FBI's list of things to do. Let's see, how might that list go? 1. Root out terror cells in the US that threaten to blow up planes, buildings, etc. 2. Investigate and apprehend those charged with federal crimes including kidnapping, murder, rape, etc. 3. Investigate those charged with fake postings on chess newsgroups Yep, I'll bet that is the list all right. Randy Bauer (Chuckling gently.) Mr. Lafferty should stop this online wanking and take care of a real client or two. So should I. So should we all. Left undiscussed is the "this is not a pipe" factor: The statements were of such low character that we realized Sloan could not have said them. But the statements were of such low character that we realized Sloan could have said them. Now if you want to see a real chess crime: in my last game, having already (more or less soundly) sacked the Exchange, I sacked Bxf6, imagining that after ...gxf6 I could play Qf3-h6 checkmate! The end was not pleasant. |
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RANDY BAUER'S SPIN
In a response to one Dylan of the New York Times, Randy Bauer tries more spin. He tells us that Sam Sloan finished poorly in an election in which he underwent the most comprehensive and vicious attacks of possibly any candidate in USCF history. Sam's great crime was not only to out Robert Tanner as a cheat and to force his resignation not only from the board but from our execrable FIDE "team," he also revealed one scandal after another. His reports on the move to Cross-to-Bear proved UNDERESTIMATIONS of the overall cost to the Federation in financial terms. At the time he made his claims, they were dismissed as lies. This writer reported about two months before Randy Bauer and other Board members saw fit to reveal the truth that the real cost of the new building would be at least $650,000, a number that was later published by the Board itself. Sam has been right on the big issues, and he revealed one scumbag deal after another. The powers-that-be can no longer permit open discussion at the USCF Forum, and through what he calls "the legislative process" Mr. Bauer has written the first of what will be several attempts to cut out open discussion within the USCF. A regulation was passed forcing Sam Sloan to reveal his conviction for "kidnapping" his own daughter -- and here, I think, is where Sam made a big mistake in his candidate's message. Instead of trying to defend himself at some length, he should have said that he took legal responsibility in the form of jail time for trying to be with his daughter. He might note that he was the opposite of a deadbeat dad trying to dump his children, but he ought then to have said he nonetheless violated a court order. And so it has been for several million fathers in the USofA these days. Randy Bauer tells us that there have been "NO meetings" of the Board but that there have been "discussions" among the Board members. That, we should note, is typical stuff. Business is so often conducted away from the public eye of public meetings. So how many telephone discussions have there been among MOST or a majority of the Board members? How many phone hookups have involved NEARLY the full Board? One must learn to read a Bauer posting carefully. Mr. Bauer neglects to mention in his attempt to demean Sam Sloan's Supreme Court appearance, that Sam argued before the full Court. It was not a case of winning a portion of a decision by defense default. The government attempted to maintain its case, and Sam prevailed in oral arguments -- apparently the last non-lawyer to do so. Mr. Bauer represents the current official voice of the Board. He has been assigned to catch the flak. His partial answers filled with attempts at evasion will be skilfully done, and we will pick them part as they appear. Yours, Larry Parr Taylor Kingston wrote: On Oct 8, 5:22 pm, " wrote: A GOOD CHESS MAXIM Attack is the best defense! B. Lafferty wrote: ........but do not address any of the charges made against Truong in the Mottershead Report. -------------------------------------------------- NY Times and Lawsuits Discuss issues that directly relate to the USCF or FIDE. Posts need to be relevant and stay on topic. Please be respectful to everyone... Forum rules Post a reply 6 posts . Page 1 of 1 NY Times and Lawsuits by SusanPolgar on Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:49 pm The USCF will make a statement shortly about this matter. Once this statement is made, I can go a little further to explain what happened. Until then, all I can say is the facts will come out in court and I am eager to present my information. Best wishes, Susan Polgar NY Times and Lawsuits by bioniclime on Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:46 pm Susan (or others), Do you know when and how this statement will be released? On the USCF Forums, website, press release? Thank you... bioniclime NY Times and Lawsuits by SusanPolgar on Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:16 pm This was an email by board member Randy Bauer, former Budget Director for the State of Iowa, to the NY Times Journalist: Dylan, You may recall that we spoke by phone at least once earlier this year regarding the USCF election and executive board. You may know that I was one of the four candidates elected and am also named as one of the defendents in Sam Sloan's lawsuit. I'd like to call your attention to at least two important factual errors and add a couple of other comments. The article writes that "Since Mr. Mottershead published his report, the chess federation's executive board, including Mr. Truong and Ms. Polgar, have met several times to discuss what to do." That is not correct. There have been NO meetings of the Executive Board since the report was published. While there have been email discussions among Board members, they have been sporadic and in many instances have not involved the entire Board. The article also leads with the claim that "Susan Polgar and Paul Truong . . . posted thousands of remarks . . . " yet there is no suggestion in Mottershead's report that Susan was responsible for the postings. Allowing this claim to stand without mention of that fact is unfair to Susan and demonstrates a lack of balance not usually found in a New York Times article. I'm also surprised that you would accept at face value Sam Sloan's claim that "If I ever want to apply for a job, nobody's going to hire me because there are thousands of obscene messages supposedly from me on the Internet." As I'm sure you know (or should have known) Sam Sloan was a very controversial member of the Executive Board who was soundly defeated for re-election - coming in 10th of 11 candidates. Much of the controversy arises from content on Sam Sloan's website, which is surely as obscene (I would argue more so) than any of the posts by "the fake Sam Sloan." Should you doubt this, I would suggest you follow the links below to Sam Sloan's website (and these are just a representative sample of the tasteless, vulgar and obscene crap you will find there): (Deleted as it is inappropriate to younger readers) Finally, Sam Sloan's long standing claim to have won a case in front of the U.S. Supreme Court is, as typical with Sam, more hat than cattle. In fact, as has been detailed many times in discussions on the chess newsgroups, Sloan's "victory" was on a technicality that had little bearing on the end result - Sam lost his license to sell securities. As noted in the opinion, "During this series of suspensions respondent Sloan ...filed a petition in the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit challenging the orders on a variety of grounds. On October 15, 1975, the court dismissed as frivolous all respondent's claims, except his allegation that the "tacking" of 10-day summary suspension orders for an indefinite period was an abuse of the agency's authority and a deprivation of due process." Justice Rehnquist on SEC v Sloan. Quite frankly, I would have expected a bit more balance and background. Sloan is a "serial suer" which you can also detail on his website. As far as I can tell, Sloan has lost in nearly every instance. Again, this history would paint a more balanced picture of the viability of the lawsuit. I would, of course, be happy to discuss any of these issues with you. Feel free to write or call me. Randy Bauer USCF Executive Board Susan Polgar NY Times and Lawsuits by Tennessee Vols on Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:40 pm I'm a little confused Chairman Susan Polgar with your statement (?) above; when it turned from your voice into the voice of Randy Bauer (USCF Executive Board). The tone of the statement does not reflect your standard rule within your blogs to use personal feelings one way or the other with Sam Sloan. If it was a statement from Randy Bauer, it would help to clarify; because it starts out with Dylan (and not sure if the poster before you is or is not Dylan) and it ends with the name of Randy Bauer. Where all is but dream, reasoning and arguments are of no use, truth and knowledge nothing. John Locke (1632-1704) Tennessee Vols NY Times and Lawsuits by SusanPolgar on Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:58 pm Sorry, I clarified it. It is a letter from Mr. Bauer to Mr. McClain of the NY Times. Susan Polgar- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Larry, this is news of the "Dog Bites Man" variety. Now, if someone _other_ than you were to *_defend_* Sloan's character, that might be considered news. |
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On Oct 8, 7:57 pm, Mike Murray wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:38:51 -0700, Randy Bauer wrote: Good luck with that, Brian. I'm sure it will be really high on the FBI's list of things to do. Let's see, how might that list go? 1. Root out terror cells in the US that threaten to blow up planes, buildings, etc. 2. Investigate and apprehend those charged with federal crimes including kidnapping, murder, rape, etc. 3. Investigate those charged with fake postings on chess newsgroups Yep, I'll bet that is the list all right. Randy Bauer This reminds me of our Washington King County Councilwoman Jane Hague who was recently pulled over for driving under the influence. According to the police report, Hague harangued the cops with "Don't you have rapists to take off the street?" Amazingly enough, this ploy failed to work. DUI is a crime that in many instances leads to the death of otherwise innocent people. It has, in many instances, leads to huge financial consequences and hardship. Poor analogy. Randy Bauer |
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On Oct 8, 8:01 pm, "B. Lafferty" wrote:
[...] My standing is that of the victim of a crime under Federal statute. It is also my understanding that NDAs do not prevent disclosure of criminal activity. [...] You need a hobby. Do you play chess? My favorite study: W: Kb4, Ne8, Pe7 B: Kb6, Nd7 White to play & win (Halberstadt 1931, I think) |
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On Oct 8, 8:01 pm, "B. Lafferty" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 8, 7:21 pm, "B. Lafferty" wrote: Mr. Lafferty, my reputation has been damaged by a former Board member of the United States Chess Federation. You may wish that the lies of Mr. Goichberg's handyman were not at issue, but they are. What standing do you have to receive a copy of the (drumroll, please) "Mottershead Report." Mr. Mottershead is reporting on yet another board that it has not been promulgated beyond Board members. My standing is that of the victim of a crime under Federal statute. It is also my understanding that NDAs do not prevent disclosure of criminal activity. Saints that we all are, we are each and every one of us acting in the fiduciary interest of the nonprofit organization. Having said said, are you otherwise, formally or informally, representing any party other than yourself? To my knowledge, I have not appeared as attorney of record in any litigation or other matter requiring a notice of appearance. Brian Lafferty, I might bring up the fact that there were death threats made on this forum against me. The analysis right now is poltiical, analyzing Sam Sloan s data. I wonder what other FEDERAL CRIMES Troung might have committed, against me, by threatening to kill me? Marcus Roberts |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:55:10 -0700, Randy Bauer
wrote: This reminds me of our Washington King County Councilwoman Jane Hague who was recently pulled over for driving under the influence. According to the police report, Hague harangued the cops with "Don't you have rapists to take off the street?" Amazingly enough, this ploy failed to work. DUI is a crime that in many instances leads to the death of otherwise innocent people. It has, in many instances, leads to huge financial consequences and hardship. Poor analogy. Randy Bauer Better analogies aren't that hard to come by. For example, the Feds go after stock fraud, pump-and-dump schemes, illegal gambling, point-shaving in ball games. Hey, that's getting closer. Nobody gets hurt but a few willing victims.... but, then there's that pounding on the door and the flash of a badge. And a Federal agent, distracted from terrorists, rapists, and armed robbers, tags another white collar perp, who then says, "don't you have rapists and terrorists to take off the street?". |
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That said, I suggest to you that the ONLY issue here is whether or not Mr. Mottershead has put the dots together leading to Mr. Truong as the Fake Sam Sloan. I have seen a copy of the Mottershead Report submitted to the Executive Board. In my opinion, a prima facae case You are a lawyer? And you can't spell 'prima facie'? [...] Brian Lafferty |
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"Jürgen R." wrote in message news ![]() [...] That said, I suggest to you that the ONLY issue here is whether or not Mr. Mottershead has put the dots together leading to Mr. Truong as the Fake Sam Sloan. I have seen a copy of the Mottershead Report submitted to the Executive Board. In my opinion, a prima facae case You are a lawyer? And you can't spell 'prima facie'? LOL. Mea culpa. |
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