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Polgar Blows Smoke



 
 
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Old October 9th 07, 10:01 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Two wrongs

Lafferty began this thread with the title "Polgar Blows Smoke"

The poster with the less-than-delightful name of "ChessterMolesster"
modified the title.

Mr. Lafferty posted in response to the not-nice person under the new,
not-nice title.

And yes, I got all this the first time.

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Old October 9th 07, 10:03 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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On Oct 9, 4:01 pm, wrote:
Lafferty began this thread with the title "Polgar Blows Smoke"

The poster with the less-than-delightful name of "ChessterMolesster"
modified the title.

Mr. Lafferty posted in response to the not-nice person under the new,
not-nice title.

And yes, I got all this the first time.


But (having read Mr. Lafferty's response) I will take Mr. Lafferty at
his word that his newsreader did not display the updated title.

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Old October 9th 07, 10:13 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:45:49 -0700, Rob wrote:

I believe it would be fun to see the if "the information" also might
be damning to others who bore false witness in the USCF forum by using
identities not their own. I have heard it is so.


Good idea, Rob. Got any candidates? Let's out 'em. Sauce for the
goose and all.

By coddling Sloan


Coddling? Most of the posts I've seen start out with something like,
"Yes we know Sloan is a { crock | sleaze | serial litigant | old letch
| bad guy | other insult } but that doesn't excuse stealing his
identity and using it to flog others". This is coddling? The only
positive spin I've seen on Sloan is that one of his (many) accusations
may prove correct.

on this witch-hunt


Ain't you a little old to believe in witches? By "witch-hunt" one
usually means the evidence is unreliable or false. Is that what you
mean here?


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Old October 10th 07, 12:59 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Polgar Blows Smoke

On Oct 9, 4:48 am, "B. Lafferty" wrote:
From chessdiscussions:

FACTS as I know them so far:

1. No contractor had the authorization to start an investigation using the
USCF confidential data. No confidential information was supposed to be used
for any other purpose except for the job the contractors were hired for the
website.
2. After an unauthorized and illegal investigation was conducted, it was
only reported to the ED and the USCF President.
3. The ED and USCF President did not notify the other 6 board members.
4. The other board members found out via leaks and postings on various
forums.
5. No confidential information was supposed to be revealed to any third
party as in any standard NDA.

Here is a part of the USCF official statement: The USCF takes seriously its
need to protect the privacy of its members and is actively investigating the
charges of violation of its privacy policies and actions of its members. The
individuals who may have violated these policies have agreed, as of today,
to suspend their duties with the USCF until these issues are resolved.
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Point 1: was answered by Motterhead in his report as follows,
"In September 2007, while working as a web developer and system
administrator for the United States Chess Federation, a number of "Fake Sam
Sloan" posts came to my attention that were copies of posts that had been
made originally in the USCF Issues forum, but with the wording changed so as
to discredit the original poster. It was apparent that in order to copy
these posts, the "Fake Sam Sloan" had access to the USCF Issues forum, as
this is a forum restricted to USCF members and is not accessible to the
public. It seemed to me that it was highly objectionable to use the USCF
Issues forum in this manner, and that it was my duty as the Administrator of
the forums to stop or deter that type of usage if I could. At the outset, I
was aware that there had been speculation that Paul Truong was the "Fake Sam
Sloan". Though I had been outspoken in opposition to Paul Truong's candidacy
for Executive Board, I did not give this speculation any great credence at
the beginning.

I wanted to see if I could identify who the Fake Sam Sloan was, using
information in the log files and the forums database. Since the IP addresses
of Usenet posters are public information, and in the USCF web logs and
database I had information as to the IP addresses of USCF members accessing
the forums, it seemed likely that I would be able to identify the USCF
member account that was being used by the Fake Sam Sloan to mis-appropriate
USCF Issues forum posts for his posts on Usenet. If I could develop any
definitive conclusions about the identity of the Fake Sam Sloan, I planned
to bring that information to the attention of the Executive Director. It did
not take very long to establish that the Fake Sam Sloan is indeed Paul
Truong, as others have suspected. This report recaps the evidence in support
of that conclusion."

Point 2: This seems proper to me.

Point 3: This may or may not be relevant. It could be that the ED and Prez
were making further inquires.

Point 4: And?

Point 5: Criminal acts are not subject to Non-Disclosure Agreements. If
they were, every criminal would require one of his associates and employees.


Judge Lafferty, this is an incredible line from Ms Polgar. The Board
of Delegates retains the authority to remove officers and directors.
The Delegates, as the final authority (before the Illinois courts can
interfere) did not authorize an investigation. True enough, she told
the truth. This is true, because the Delegates had no knowledge of
this event. The Delegates might not certify an election under these
conditions. Susan Polar speaks the truth, spun into a lie. No
permission is needed.
No authority is needed to begin an investigation, or to report a
FEDERAL CRIME. We do not operate like Hungary or South Vietnam. The
Delegates self govern. Anyone can investigate anyone, as such as it
has been since 1939. Now, two foreign born persons seek
to be "Ambassadors" of the United States of America, and violate our
laws with impunity.

Marcus Roberts
Former USCF Vice President


 




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