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On Jan 25, 7:57*am, The Historian wrote:
On Jan 25, 8:26 am, "Chess One" wrote: A series of exchanges on this issue of the current USCF Scandal, the Sloan suit, and related matters will appear this weekend at Chessville, including the initial invitational letter from Susan Polgar; a response to the opportunity to USCF to make their own statement by Chessville, [received overnight]; and a counter-note from Susan Polgar. Oh, the latest "final response", in other words. When the material is published, further commentary may be made, both editorially at Chessville, and in these newsgroups. Warning, threat, or permission? P Innes' announcement can be read as any of the three. shrug I read it simply being information. |
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On Jan 25, 9:27 am, zdrakec wrote:
On Jan 25, 7:57 am, The Historian wrote: On Jan 25, 8:26 am, "Chess One" wrote: A series of exchanges on this issue of the current USCF Scandal, the Sloan suit, and related matters will appear this weekend at Chessville, including the initial invitational letter from Susan Polgar; a response to the opportunity to USCF to make their own statement by Chessville, [received overnight]; and a counter-note from Susan Polgar. Oh, the latest "final response", in other words. When the material is published, further commentary may be made, both editorially at Chessville, and in these newsgroups. Warning, threat, or permission? P Innes' announcement can be read as any of the three. shrug I read it simply being information. Why did he feel the need to give us permission to do what we would do anyway? |
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"The Historian" wrote in message ... On Jan 25, 9:27 am, zdrakec wrote: On Jan 25, 7:57 am, The Historian wrote: On Jan 25, 8:26 am, "Chess One" wrote: A series of exchanges on this issue of the current USCF Scandal, the Sloan suit, and related matters will appear this weekend at Chessville, including the initial invitational letter from Susan Polgar; a response to the opportunity to USCF to make their own statement by Chessville, [received overnight]; and a counter-note from Susan Polgar. Oh, the latest "final response", in other words. When the material is published, further commentary may be made, both editorially at Chessville, and in these newsgroups. Warning, threat, or permission? P Innes' announcement can be read as any of the three. shrug I read it simply being information. Why did he feel the need to give us permission to do what we would do anyway? The culprit is the usual lack of understanding by Brennan, who is ever confused by multi-phrase sentences. Nowhere did I use the word 'permission', and whether its "warning, threat or permission", all three or none, seems to be simply the terms used by those who are so very /anxious/ about this issue. There are certainly other ways to characterise the issue. The sense of the material I wrote is to first allow it a big public view, and then to make commentary on it. There is no new 'final response' by Polgar, but instead a reiteration of what she predicted would happen - with perhaps some additional emphasis indicated after the board's response, on the consequences of declining to open up. My mailbag is already full of GM commentary [with an IM here and there] all, so far, supportive of Polgar. Now all chess players can also comment on what seems right and fair to them. After digesting the exchange sufficiently, I feel assured we will be entertained by more than a bunch of hot-heads here, by people who /do/ want to see the whole picture before committing to judgment. That was, and remains, the issue. Phil Innes |
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On Jan 25, 2:20 pm, "Chess One" wrote:
"The Historian" wrote in message ... On Jan 25, 9:27 am, zdrakec wrote: On Jan 25, 7:57 am, The Historian wrote: On Jan 25, 8:26 am, "Chess One" wrote: A series of exchanges on this issue of the current USCF Scandal, the Sloan suit, and related matters will appear this weekend at Chessville, including the initial invitational letter from Susan Polgar; a response to the opportunity to USCF to make their own statement by Chessville, [received overnight]; and a counter-note from Susan Polgar. Oh, the latest "final response", in other words. When the material is published, further commentary may be made, both editorially at Chessville, and in these newsgroups. Warning, threat, or permission? P Innes' announcement can be read as any of the three. shrug I read it simply being information. Why did he feel the need to give us permission to do what we would do anyway? The culprit is the usual lack of understanding by Brennan, who is ever confused by multi-phrase sentences. Nowhere did I use the word 'permission', and whether its "warning, threat or permission", all three or none, seems to be simply the terms used by those who are so very /anxious/ about this issue. There are certainly other ways to characterise the issue. The sense of the material I wrote is to first allow it a big public view, and then to make commentary on it. This must mean Paul Truong is going to allow the USCF attorneys access to his IP records. There is no new 'final response' by Polgar, but instead a reiteration of what she predicted would happen - with perhaps some additional emphasis indicated after the board's response, on the consequences of declining to open up. In other words, the latest final response, with empty threats. My mailbag is already full of GM commentary [with an IM here and there] Real titled players, or phony ones like yourself? all, so far, supportive of Polgar. Now all chess players can also comment on what seems right and fair to them. After digesting the exchange sufficiently, I feel assured we will be entertained by more than a bunch of hot-heads here, by people who /do/ want to see the whole picture before committing to judgment. That was, and remains, the issue. Phil Innes |
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"The Historian" wrote in message ... The culprit is the usual lack of understanding by Brennan, who is ever confused by multi-phrase sentences. Nowhere did I use the word 'permission', and whether its "warning, threat or permission", all three or none, seems to be simply the terms used by those who are so very /anxious/ about this issue. There are certainly other ways to characterise the issue. The sense of the material I wrote is to first allow it a big public view, and then to make commentary on it. This must mean Paul Truong is going to allow the USCF attorneys access to his IP records. Having already confounded the issue in his mind by inserting the word 'permission', Brennan now insists on what something 'must mean'. How he should twice evolve his commentary from the statement before it, and why any imperative 'must', is best known to himself. If he has comprehension problems he should consult a philologist or stick to reading Winnie the Pooh. There is no new 'final response' by Polgar, but instead a reiteration of what she predicted would happen - with perhaps some additional emphasis indicated after the board's response, on the consequences of declining to open up. In other words, the latest final response, with empty threats. That again is a paraphrase so obtuse that it almost defies belief anyone could write it. If what Polgar and Truong are saying is 'open it up' and others decline to do so, which was their own prediction, they merely refer to the /content/ they made before. What is 'final' about it seems to me to be how far they are willing to go to cooperate with anyone - and in fact, what or who limits any other possible cooperation. Quite obviously, if USCF say that materials may not be vented, based on their legal advice, neither can anyone else access the same materials. My mailbag is already full of GM commentary [with an IM here and there] Real titled players, or phony ones like yourself? How would you know? You don't write about chess - 99% percent of your posts here and elsewhere are about trashing people. More trash about more people than the FSS ever did. Maybe 5 times as much? 10 times? How you can possibly pretend any interest in caring about cyber-abuse or chess, is again, a subject known only to yourself, and the reverend re-mailer, plus one or two other people spinning for a living, instead on any attention to subject matter. With such a record, its nothing to any point to protest it! It is a demonstrated record - as any one can see. Phil Innes all, so far, supportive of Polgar. Now all chess players can also comment on what seems right and fair to them. After digesting the exchange sufficiently, I feel assured we will be entertained by more than a bunch of hot-heads here, by people who /do/ want to see the whole picture before committing to judgment. That was, and remains, the issue. Phil Innes |
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