Per Donna Alarie on the USCF Issues Forum:
_______________________________________

Okay, so Susan now has another "Last Statement" on her chessdiscussion blog.

There's also another article from the NY Times - on the Gambit Blog - for
today.

So as not to run into AUG, I'll just assume everyone can go to those places
and read the comments and come back here to discuss.

Susan's post is similar to previous posts only now not only is Bill
Goichberg not welcome to be on the sub-committee, but they would like Randy
Bauer removed too.

Calling for a complete investigation is about three months too late. USCF's
leaders had their chance to provide a forensic expert and did not do so. The
membership had to do it.

However, the answer now is simple. Since Ms. Polgar has no reason to
question the expertise of Mr. Ulevitch, is Mr. Truong willing to forward
permission to view his ISP records to Mr. Ulevitch? Obviously, Mr. Ulevitch
does not have a dog in this race and if there is evidence which he has not
considered in his report, I am confident that as a professional, he would
certainly be willing to consider it now.

In the meantime, the recall effort is now going forward and it is going
forward publicly. It is my intention to keep the USCF membership, the NY
Times and any other chess news outlet which inquires - informed of the
effort regularly. USCF's public image has been damaged long enough. It's
about time the members do some damage control and reestablish faith in the
organization by demanding that its leaders adhere to their fiduciary
obligation to consider the membership's best interests first. Those best
interests would be best served by the resignation of Mr. Truong from the
Executive Board.

Donna Alarie
Massachusetts Delegate

__________________________________________________ __________________

The latest Polgar (or is it written by Truong?) missive can be found he
http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB...263c5b67#p4175

B. Lafferty wrote:
Per Donna Alarie on the USCF Issues Forum:
_______________________________________

Okay, so Susan now has another "Last Statement" on her chessdiscussion blog.

There's also another article from the NY Times - on the Gambit Blog - for
today.

So as not to run into AUG, I'll just assume everyone can go to those places
and read the comments and come back here to discuss.

Susan's post is similar to previous posts only now not only is Bill
Goichberg not welcome to be on the sub-committee, but they would like Randy
Bauer removed too.

Calling for a complete investigation is about three months too late. USCF's
leaders had their chance to provide a forensic expert and did not do so. The
membership had to do it.

However, the answer now is simple. Since Ms. Polgar has no reason to
question the expertise of Mr. Ulevitch, is Mr. Truong willing to forward
permission to view his ISP records to Mr. Ulevitch? Obviously, Mr. Ulevitch
does not have a dog in this race and if there is evidence which he has not
considered in his report, I am confident that as a professional, he would
certainly be willing to consider it now.

In the meantime, the recall effort is now going forward and it is going
forward publicly. It is my intention to keep the USCF membership, the NY
Times and any other chess news outlet which inquires - informed of the
effort regularly. USCF's public image has been damaged long enough. It's
about time the members do some damage control and reestablish faith in the
organization by demanding that its leaders adhere to their fiduciary
obligation to consider the membership's best interests first. Those best
interests would be best served by the resignation of Mr. Truong from the
Executive Board.

Donna Alarie
Massachusetts Delegate

__________________________________________________ __________________

The latest Polgar (or is it written by Truong?) missive can be found he
http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB...263c5b67#p4175


Mr. Lafferty,

It occurs to me that there may be a fair number of people that share my
situation vis a vis the USCF. I was once a member for many years. I
then left the chess scene for career reasons and did not return until 25
years later. I always thought to myself, "Well, at least when I retire,
I can return to good old chess as a hobby..." What I discovered when
this time came was appalling! I will not rejoin this organization in
its current state.

Unfortunately, this means I cannot support the recall effort as a voting
member, and I cannot petition delegate(s) to do so. This brings me to
this question: as part of the recall effort I would be happy to sign a
parallel petition by non-members that feel that the USCF must clean up
the filth and become a respectable organization. Are there other
non-members that feel as I do?
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.

Fortunately, for practical purposes you can ignore the current state
of the USCF. Go to your chess club, play chess, enter tournaments, and
have fun. At least the rating system still works. If you have more
energy, you can work to do something about the state of the national
organization, but don't deprive yourself of enjoyment and your local
chess community of a much needed tournament player because there are
bozos at the top of the organization. Actually, bozo is not the proper
term - although irritating, Bozo was not a bad guy. Since you are good
with words, as shown by the term obfecation, I will let you supply the
correct word for some of our clownish but nefarious leading lights.

Jerry Spinrad

On Jan 24, 2:46*pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:
B. Lafferty wrote:
Per Donna Alarie on the USCF Issues Forum:
_______________________________________

Okay, so Susan now has another "Last Statement" on her chessdiscussion blog.

There's also another article from the NY Times - on the Gambit Blog - for
today.

So as not to run into AUG, I'll just assume everyone can go to those places
and read the comments and come back here to discuss.

Susan's post is similar to previous posts only now not only is Bill
Goichberg not welcome to be on the sub-committee, but they would like Randy
Bauer removed too.

Calling for a complete investigation is about three months too late. USCF's
leaders had their chance to provide a forensic expert and did not do so. The
membership had to do it.

However, the answer now is simple. Since Ms. Polgar has no reason to
question the expertise of Mr. Ulevitch, is Mr. Truong willing to forward
permission to view his ISP records to Mr. Ulevitch? Obviously, Mr. Ulevitch
does not have a dog in this race and if there is evidence which he has not
considered in his report, I am confident that as a professional, he would
certainly be willing to consider it now.

In the meantime, the recall effort is now going forward and it is going
forward publicly. It is my intention to keep the USCF membership, the NY
Times and any other chess news outlet which inquires - informed of the
effort regularly. USCF's public image has been damaged long enough. It's
about time the members do some damage control and reestablish faith in the
organization by demanding that its leaders adhere to their fiduciary
obligation to consider the membership's best interests first. Those best
interests would be best served by the resignation of Mr. Truong from the
Executive Board.

Donna Alarie
Massachusetts Delegate

__________________________________________________ __________________

The latest Polgar (or is it written by Truong?) missive can be found he
http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB...&p=4175&sid=4e...

Mr. Lafferty,

It occurs to me that there may be a fair number of people that share my
situation vis a vis the USCF. *I was once a member for many years. *I
then left the chess scene for career reasons and did not return until 25
years later. *I always thought to myself, "Well, at least when I retire,
I can return to good old chess as a hobby..." *What I discovered when
this time came was appalling! *I will not rejoin this organization in
its current state.

Unfortunately, this means I cannot support the recall effort as a voting
member, and I cannot petition delegate(s) to do so. *This brings me to
this question: as part of the recall effort I would be happy to sign a
parallel petition by non-members that feel that the USCF must clean up
the filth and become a respectable organization. *Are there other
non-members that feel as I do?
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:46:41 -0800, "J.D. Walker"
wrote:

I was once a member for many years. I
then left the chess scene for career reasons and did not return until 25
years later. I always thought to myself, "Well, at least when I retire,
I can return to good old chess as a hobby..."

I quit playing in the Spring of 1978 and didn't play again until
December of 2005 (post retirement). I've since played in six American
and one Canadian tournament.

You must have bagged it a few years after I did. Fortunately, I
bought a life membership somewhere in the early 70s, so I'd at least
browse the magazine every month.

Are you playing any sort of chess currently? If so, what's your
assessment on the competitive environment, since emerging from the
time warp?

"J.D. Walker" wrote in message
. ..
B. Lafferty wrote:
Per Donna Alarie on the USCF Issues Forum:
_______________________________________

Okay, so Susan now has another "Last Statement" on her chessdiscussion blog.

There's also another article from the NY Times - on the Gambit Blog - for
today.

So as not to run into AUG, I'll just assume everyone can go to those places
and read the comments and come back here to discuss.

Susan's post is similar to previous posts only now not only is Bill Goichberg
not welcome to be on the sub-committee, but they would like Randy Bauer
removed too.

Calling for a complete investigation is about three months too late. USCF's
leaders had their chance to provide a forensic expert and did not do so. The
membership had to do it.

However, the answer now is simple. Since Ms. Polgar has no reason to question
the expertise of Mr. Ulevitch, is Mr. Truong willing to forward permission to
view his ISP records to Mr. Ulevitch? Obviously, Mr. Ulevitch does not have a
dog in this race and if there is evidence which he has not considered in his
report, I am confident that as a professional, he would certainly be willing
to consider it now.

In the meantime, the recall effort is now going forward and it is going
forward publicly. It is my intention to keep the USCF membership, the NY
Times and any other chess news outlet which inquires - informed of the effort
regularly. USCF's public image has been damaged long enough. It's about time
the members do some damage control and reestablish faith in the organization
by demanding that its leaders adhere to their fiduciary obligation to
consider the membership's best interests first. Those best interests would be
best served by the resignation of Mr. Truong from the Executive Board.

Donna Alarie
Massachusetts Delegate

__________________________________________________ __________________

The latest Polgar (or is it written by Truong?) missive can be found he
http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB...263c5b67#p4175
Mr. Lafferty,

It occurs to me that there may be a fair number of people that share my
situation vis a vis the USCF. I was once a member for many years. I then
left the chess scene for career reasons and did not return until 25 years
later. I always thought to myself, "Well, at least when I retire, I can
return to good old chess as a hobby..." What I discovered when this time came
was appalling! I will not rejoin this organization in its current state.

Unfortunately, this means I cannot support the recall effort as a voting
member, and I cannot petition delegate(s) to do so. This brings me to this
question: as part of the recall effort I would be happy to sign a parallel
petition by non-members that feel that the USCF must clean up the filth and
become a respectable organization. Are there other non-members that feel as I
do?
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.

On a related question, is there any role for scholastic members
(or their parents?) Considering that Mr. Truong's weapon
of choice was obscenity, his unfitness as a board member in an
organization with so many kids is obvious.

Mike Murray wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:46:41 -0800, "J.D. Walker"
wrote:

I was once a member for many years. I
then left the chess scene for career reasons and did not return until 25
years later. I always thought to myself, "Well, at least when I retire,
I can return to good old chess as a hobby..."

I quit playing in the Spring of 1978 and didn't play again until
December of 2005 (post retirement). I've since played in six American
and one Canadian tournament.

You must have bagged it a few years after I did. Fortunately, I
bought a life membership somewhere in the early 70s, so I'd at least
browse the magazine every month.

Are you playing any sort of chess currently? If so, what's your
assessment on the competitive environment, since emerging from the
time warp?

Hey Mike,

I basically no longer play. I enjoy watching international tournament
games via the Internet. I sometimes try my hand at endgame studies or
"natural" type chess problems. (Shocking admission: I like the problems
on Susan's web blog!) I also have enjoyed looking through games
databases with a chess engine at my side to see what new insights I
might gain.

I remember long ago, in the days when I was at the Seattle Chess Club on
a 24/7 basis. I would study and play all day and all night until I was
exhausted and fell asleep under a chess table. What a crazy kid I was!
Then one day the US Open came to Seattle... Mid sixties I believe. A
young kid came to the club looking for blitz action. He was very
talented, but I was good enough to keep his interest. That was the
young Walter Browne. We played a marathon session.

One other early story: My first encounter with John Grefe was in yet
another Seattle tournament. It was notable for the dramatic aspect. In
those days John was a dedicated follower of Guru Maharaj Ji (if I recall
correctly). In our game he decided to get up on his chair and sit up
high on the back of the chair looking down at me while the large holy
medallion hanging around his neck on a gold chain swung, ominously and
hypnotically, back and forth. I responded to this by ducking down and
hiding behind my chair and watching through a crack. So picture it, as
the great religious figure completed a formidable move, some time would
pass, and then a timid hand would sneak over the top of the opposing
chair and rabbit-like make a move and quickly disappear... I had great
fun with this, and drew the game.

In one of my last tournaments I tied for first with John Grefe (both
unbeaten) at the Oregon Open. (He took the title on tie breaks).

The last tournament I remember playing in was in Seattle in the mid
eighties. John Donaldson beat me due to his superb preparation and
excellent play. After that I gave it a rest.

I used to be about 200 elo stronger at blitz than I was at tournament
play. Age has taken that away.

The current competitive environment? 1) In the Pacific NW? I can not
answer that. I haven't gotten close enough to judge it. 2) Worldwide?
I think chess is in trouble. 3) National? I think chess is in trouble.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.

"David Kane" wrote in message
. ..

"J.D. Walker" wrote in message
. ..
B. Lafferty wrote:
Per Donna Alarie on the USCF Issues Forum:
_______________________________________

Okay, so Susan now has another "Last Statement" on her chessdiscussion
blog.

There's also another article from the NY Times - on the Gambit Blog -
for today.

So as not to run into AUG, I'll just assume everyone can go to those
places and read the comments and come back here to discuss.

Susan's post is similar to previous posts only now not only is Bill
Goichberg not welcome to be on the sub-committee, but they would like
Randy Bauer removed too.

Calling for a complete investigation is about three months too late.
USCF's leaders had their chance to provide a forensic expert and did not
do so. The membership had to do it.

However, the answer now is simple. Since Ms. Polgar has no reason to
question the expertise of Mr. Ulevitch, is Mr. Truong willing to forward
permission to view his ISP records to Mr. Ulevitch? Obviously, Mr.
Ulevitch does not have a dog in this race and if there is evidence which
he has not considered in his report, I am confident that as a
professional, he would certainly be willing to consider it now.

In the meantime, the recall effort is now going forward and it is going
forward publicly. It is my intention to keep the USCF membership, the NY
Times and any other chess news outlet which inquires - informed of the
effort regularly. USCF's public image has been damaged long enough. It's
about time the members do some damage control and reestablish faith in
the organization by demanding that its leaders adhere to their fiduciary
obligation to consider the membership's best interests first. Those best
interests would be best served by the resignation of Mr. Truong from the
Executive Board.

Donna Alarie
Massachusetts Delegate

__________________________________________________ __________________

The latest Polgar (or is it written by Truong?) missive can be found
he
http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB...263c5b67#p4175
Mr. Lafferty,

It occurs to me that there may be a fair number of people that share my
situation vis a vis the USCF. I was once a member for many years. I
then left the chess scene for career reasons and did not return until 25
years later. I always thought to myself, "Well, at least when I retire,
I can return to good old chess as a hobby..." What I discovered when
this time came was appalling! I will not rejoin this organization in its
current state.

Unfortunately, this means I cannot support the recall effort as a voting
member, and I cannot petition delegate(s) to do so. This brings me to
this question: as part of the recall effort I would be happy to sign a
parallel petition by non-members that feel that the USCF must clean up
the filth and become a respectable organization. Are there other
non-members that feel as I do?
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.

On a related question, is there any role for scholastic members
(or their parents?) Considering that Mr. Truong's weapon
of choice was obscenity, his unfitness as a board member in an
organization with so many kids is obvious.

Yes. I am preparing a fact sheet that will include some of the posts made
by the FSS/Truong. I think they should be given to every scholastic parent
with the question--Do you want this person on the USCF board and in any way
involved in working with minors. As a parent, I sure don't.

wrote:
Fortunately, for practical purposes you can ignore the current state
of the USCF. Go to your chess club, play chess, enter tournaments, and
have fun.

I don't, nor do I allow my children, and advise my friends to
participate in USCF events or Susan Polgar Foundation events which there
is one in Washington state in March. I had just recently signed up for
three year memberships for my son and myself, went to the National event
with my son, and was prepared for full reintroduction into the
organization.

Currently we do not participate in ANYTHING to do with the USCF. As the
organization, and especially the EB behaves in no fashion that I would
let my family associate with.

We will play soccer instead, and play chess at home.

What a bunch of jerks this has turned out to be.

"johnny_t" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Fortunately, for practical purposes you can ignore the current state
of the USCF. Go to your chess club, play chess, enter tournaments, and
have fun.

I don't, nor do I allow my children, and advise my friends to participate in
USCF events or Susan Polgar Foundation events which there is one in Washington
state in March. I had just recently signed up for three year memberships for
my son and myself, went to the National event with my son, and was prepared
for full reintroduction into the organization.

Currently we do not participate in ANYTHING to do with the USCF. As the
organization, and especially the EB behaves in no fashion that I would let my
family associate with.

There are numerous non-USCF chess events for school age kids
in Washington.
http://www.calendarwiz.com/calendars...s&&jsenabled=1
Though personally I would not boycott USCF events over the Truong
issue, as a practical matter most of the scholastic events are NWSRS-rated
anyway.




We will play soccer instead, and play chess at home.

What a bunch of jerks this has turned out to be.

David Kane wrote:
"johnny_t" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Fortunately, for practical purposes you can ignore the current state
of the USCF. Go to your chess club, play chess, enter tournaments, and
have fun.
I don't, nor do I allow my children, and advise my friends to participate in
USCF events or Susan Polgar Foundation events which there is one in Washington
state in March. I had just recently signed up for three year memberships for
my son and myself, went to the National event with my son, and was prepared
for full reintroduction into the organization.

Currently we do not participate in ANYTHING to do with the USCF. As the
organization, and especially the EB behaves in no fashion that I would let my
family associate with.

There are numerous non-USCF chess events for school age kids
in Washington.
http://www.calendarwiz.com/calendars...s&&jsenabled=1
Though personally I would not boycott USCF events over the Truong
issue, as a practical matter most of the scholastic events are NWSRS-rated
anyway.

Thanks, and yes we play in many of those. But I had been working with
and being an example for USCF play in Washington. We had gone to the
nationals participated in the Washington state USCF tournaments, and
even the USCF rated Quads, bought the 3 year memberships.

So yes we play in the WSHCA events. But realize that organizations
like Chessplayer.com and Chess4Life have been trying to bring about USCF
rated play back to Washington and trying to bring presence to Susan
Polgar and her organization. There are many families in Washington
state who are thrilled that their girls are getting recognition, with no
clue of the train wreck that is happening.

And I only have the ability to boycott since the organization is
continuing to behave in such a way as to be not acceptable to me. That
is a long turnaround to frontrunner to boycotter, but that is where I am.

As to the Washington state stuff, you will see us at state, and I and
many of our friends will be on the circuit. But no more USCF events for
me, and for those that ask and care about why we don't go anymore, I
tell them and they can decide.