On Feb 5, 8:41 pm, wrote:
samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfeditor Doesn't Sloan's argument amount to accusing Bill (with the connivance of his attorneys) of perjuring himself in a sworn affidavit? Isn't there something in the AUG about that? (BTW, I know several people who have visited Bill at his home. It's hardly surprising that Sloan is not among them.)

Most likely Bill made a mistake in the address. The US Post Office
does not recognize the address of 2084 Route 94, Salisbury Mills NY
12577.

However, if he does not know his own address, that probably indicates
that he no longer lives there.

When did those several people visit Bill at his home? I will bet that
it was years ago. Once the USCF moved away from New Windsor, there was
no reason for Bill Goichberg to stay near there.

Sam Sloan

False. Jerry Hanken has been there several times in recent years. Joe
Lux has telephoned him there. Donna Alarie found an on-line photo of
the place. Of course you can claim that they're all lying. Maybe
everybody's lying. Perhaps They go around tearing down all those false-
front buildings when they're not needed to deceive you. But I think
Heinlein already wrote that story.

I have a friend who has been urging me to read Heinlein. I haven't,
since I generally don't read science-fiction. Any recommendation for a
good 'first' Heinlein, John?

On Feb 5, 8:27 pm, wrote:
On Feb 5, 7:21 pm, wrote:



On Feb 5, 6:00 pm, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfeditor Doesn't Sloan's argument amount to accusing Bill (with the connivance of his attorneys) of perjuring himself in a sworn affidavit? Isn't there something in the AUG about that? (BTW, I know several people who have visited Bill at his home. It's hardly surprising that Sloan is not among them.)

Most likely Bill made a mistake in the address. The US Post Office
does not recognize the address of 2084 Route 94, Salisbury Mills NY
12577.

However, if he does not know his own address, that probably indicates
that he no longer lives there.

When did those several people visit Bill at his home? I will bet that
it was years ago. Once the USCF moved away from New Windsor, there was
no reason for Bill Goichberg to stay near there.

Sam Sloan

edited August 14, 2007:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...e_Chess_Associ...

"The New York State Chess Association (NYSCA) is the oldest
continuously-run chess organization in the United States [....]

Its president is Bill Goichberg of Salisbury Mills in Orange County,
who is also U.S. Chess Federation president."

http://www.google.com/patents?id=PSM...bstract&zoom=4

Note the residence of co-inventor Goichberg....

It just says "William Goichberg, Salisbury New York".

Please note that he can only have one residence. Which one is it, to
the exclusion of all others?

Sam Sloan

On Feb 3, 7:55 am, Rob wrote:
On Feb 3, 7:24 am, Rob wrote:

On Feb 2, 12:24 pm, Rob wrote:

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ditto

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just cant find Reason nor a rhyme The greatest of his time? The
greatest in his mind! Mohammed Sloan has lost his mind But it ain't
worth a dime. Mohammed Sloan he breaks the law Who-ha, who -ha Files
lawsuit like you you never saw Annoying like a caw Greatest of all
time? Only in his mind Mohammed Sloan has lost his mind But it ain't
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Mohammed Sloan has lost his mind
Who- Ha, Who-Ha
Look as he may he just cant find
Reason nor a rhyme

The greatest of his time?
The greatest in his mind!

Mohammed Sloan has lost his mind
But it ain't worth a dime.

Mohammed Sloan he breaks the law
Who-ha, who -ha
Files lawsuit like you you never saw
Annoying like a caw

Greatest of all time?
Only in his mind

Mohammed Sloan has lost his mind
But it ain't worth a dime.

(sung to the tune of "Camptown Ladies"

The Historian wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:41 pm, wrote:
samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfeditor Doesn't Sloan's argument amount to accusing Bill (with the connivance of his attorneys) of perjuring himself in a sworn affidavit? Isn't there something in the AUG about that? (BTW, I know several people who have visited Bill at his home. It's hardly surprising that Sloan is not among them.)

Most likely Bill made a mistake in the address. The US Post Office
does not recognize the address of 2084 Route 94, Salisbury Mills NY
12577.

However, if he does not know his own address, that probably indicates
that he no longer lives there.

When did those several people visit Bill at his home? I will bet that
it was years ago. Once the USCF moved away from New Windsor, there was
no reason for Bill Goichberg to stay near there.

Sam Sloan

False. Jerry Hanken has been there several times in recent years. Joe
Lux has telephoned him there. Donna Alarie found an on-line photo of
the place. Of course you can claim that they're all lying. Maybe
everybody's lying. Perhaps They go around tearing down all those false-
front buildings when they're not needed to deceive you. But I think
Heinlein already wrote that story.

I have a friend who has been urging me to read Heinlein. I haven't,
since I generally don't read science-fiction. Any recommendation for a
good 'first' Heinlein, John?

Almost all of his pre-1960 work is great. The later books are, well,
not bad, but sometimes harder to digest. If you can find a copy of
"The Past Through Tomorrow," a collection of his "Future History"
series, it's a good place to start, especially "The Man Who Sold the
Moon" and "Methuselah's Children."

On Feb 5, 8:53 pm, samsloan wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:27 pm, wrote:



On Feb 5, 7:21 pm, wrote:

On Feb 5, 6:00 pm, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfeditor Doesn't Sloan's argument amount to accusing Bill (with the connivance of his attorneys) of perjuring himself in a sworn affidavit? Isn't there something in the AUG about that? (BTW, I know several people who have visited Bill at his home. It's hardly surprising that Sloan is not among them.)

Most likely Bill made a mistake in the address. The US Post Office
does not recognize the address of 2084 Route 94, Salisbury Mills NY
12577.

However, if he does not know his own address, that probably indicates
that he no longer lives there.

When did those several people visit Bill at his home? I will bet that
it was years ago. Once the USCF moved away from New Windsor, there was
no reason for Bill Goichberg to stay near there.

Sam Sloan

edited August 14, 2007:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...e_Chess_Associ...

"The New York State Chess Association (NYSCA) is the oldest
continuously-run chess organization in the United States [....]

Its president is Bill Goichberg of Salisbury Mills in Orange County,
who is also U.S. Chess Federation president."

http://www.google.com/patents?id=PSM...bstract&zoom=4

Note the residence of co-inventor Goichberg....

It just says "William Goichberg, Salisbury New York".

Please note that he can only have one residence. Which one is it, to
the exclusion of all others?

Sam Sloan


The first page of the above-linked patent actually gives Goichberg's
place of residence as "Salisbury *Mills*, New York."

A competent plaintiff might have visited the Orange County, NY, web
site:

http://propertydata.orangecountygov....te/search.aspx

Enter

last name = "Goichberg"
first name = "William"

and this is returned:

***
Tips

* Click on a parcel's Tax ID to see its information.
* Click on a column title to sort on that column.

SWIS - Municipality Tax ID Owner Street # Street Name
332089 - Blooming Grove 3-1-9 Goichberg William 2084 Rte 94

Showing results 1-1 of 1
***

follow the Tax ID link and you'll find that it is indeed a residence

***

Municipality of Blooming Grove
Swis: 332089 Tax Map ID#: 3-1-9

Tax Map ID / Property Data
Status: Active Roll Section: Taxable
Address: 2084 Rte 94
Zoning Code: - Site: Res 1
Neighborhood: 00009 - Bldg. Style: Old Style
Property Class: 210 - 1 Family Res School District:
Washingtonville
Legal Property Description: Legal description not given for
property
Land Assessment: 2007 - $9,000
Total Assessment: 2007 - $33,500
Total Acreage/Size: 1.00 Full Market Value: 2007 - $259,690
Deed Book: 3519 Deed Page: 315
Bank Code: N/A

Special Districts for 2007
Description Units Percent Type Value
Bg ambul dist 0 0 0
Bdl dist o&m 1 0 0
Bdl dist net capimpr 60 0 0
Salisbury mills fire 0 0 0
Town wide refuse 1 0 0

Land Types

Type Size
Primary 1.00 acres

***


2084? And who owns this property?

***

Ownership Information

Name Address
William Goichberg P.O. Box 249

Salisbury Mills NY,12577

***

And the county provides a photo of the property:

http://propertydata.orangecountygov....=596975,947313

***

Orange County had better come up with a really good explanation for
this.

On Feb 6, 11:11 am, wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:53 pm, samsloan wrote:



On Feb 5, 8:27 pm, wrote:

On Feb 5, 7:21 pm, wrote:

On Feb 5, 6:00 pm, samsloan wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfeditor Doesn't Sloan's argument amount to accusing Bill (with the connivance of his attorneys) of perjuring himself in a sworn affidavit? Isn't there something in the AUG about that? (BTW, I know several people who have visited Bill at his home. It's hardly surprising that Sloan is not among them.)

Most likely Bill made a mistake in the address. The US Post Office
does not recognize the address of 2084 Route 94, Salisbury Mills NY
12577.

However, if he does not know his own address, that probably indicates
that he no longer lives there.

When did those several people visit Bill at his home? I will bet that
it was years ago. Once the USCF moved away from New Windsor, there was
no reason for Bill Goichberg to stay near there.

Sam Sloan

edited August 14, 2007:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...e_Chess_Associ...

"The New York State Chess Association (NYSCA) is the oldest
continuously-run chess organization in the United States [....]

Its president is Bill Goichberg of Salisbury Mills in Orange County,
who is also U.S. Chess Federation president."

http://www.google.com/patents?id=PSM...bstract&zoom=4

Note the residence of co-inventor Goichberg....

It just says "William Goichberg, Salisbury New York".

Please note that he can only have one residence. Which one is it, to
the exclusion of all others?

Sam Sloan

The first page of the above-linked patent actually gives Goichberg's
place of residence as "Salisbury *Mills*, New York."

A competent plaintiff might have visited the Orange County, NY, web
site:

http://propertydata.orangecountygov....te/search.aspx

Enter

last name = "Goichberg"
first name = "William"

and this is returned:

***
Tips

* Click on a parcel's Tax ID to see its information.
* Click on a column title to sort on that column.

SWIS - Municipality Tax ID Owner Street # Street Name
332089 - Blooming Grove 3-1-9 Goichberg William 2084 Rte 94

Showing results 1-1 of 1
***

follow the Tax ID link and you'll find that it is indeed a residence

***

Municipality of Blooming Grove
Swis: 332089 Tax Map ID#: 3-1-9

Tax Map ID / Property Data
Status: Active Roll Section: Taxable
Address: 2084 Rte 94
Zoning Code: - Site: Res 1
Neighborhood: 00009 - Bldg. Style: Old Style
Property Class: 210 - 1 Family Res School District:
Washingtonville
Legal Property Description: Legal description not given for
property
Land Assessment: 2007 - $9,000
Total Assessment: 2007 - $33,500
Total Acreage/Size: 1.00 Full Market Value: 2007 - $259,690
Deed Book: 3519 Deed Page: 315
Bank Code: N/A

Special Districts for 2007
Description Units Percent Type Value
Bg ambul dist 0 0 0
Bdl dist o&m 1 0 0
Bdl dist net capimpr 60 0 0
Salisbury mills fire 0 0 0
Town wide refuse 1 0 0

Land Types

Type Size
Primary 1.00 acres

***

2084? And who owns this property?

***

Ownership Information

Name Address
William Goichberg P.O. Box 249

Salisbury Mills NY,12577

***

And the county provides a photo of the property:

http://propertydata.orangecountygov....spx?coord=5969...

***

Orange County had better come up with a really good explanation for
this.

Thank you so much for finding this.

However, please note that this building looks completely different
from the house that somebody else here says that he lives in.

Also, as I understand it, a person can only have ONE RESIDENCE. In
other words, Goichberg will have to prove that he sleeps here more
nights than anywhere else. I do not think he can prove that,
especially since he has been in California most of the time since I
filed this case.

Sam Sloan

The Historian wrote:


I have a friend who has been urging me to read Heinlein. I haven't,
since I generally don't read science-fiction. Any recommendation for a
good 'first' Heinlein, John?

Starship Troopers is a great book. The movies portrayed the events and
did a poor job of explaining the philosophy. The book, however, is a
great example of what science fiction does. It allows you to explain
and explore philosophies in different setting. A really good first book.

On FeMohammed Sloan has lost his mind
Who- Ha, Who-Ha
Look as he may he just cant find
Reason nor a rhyme

The greatest of his time?
The greatest in his mind!

Mohammed Sloan has lost his mind
But it ain't worth a dime.

Mohammed Sloan he breaks the law
Who-ha, who -ha
Files lawsuit like you you never saw
Annoying like a caw

Greatest of all time?
Only in his mind

Mohammed Sloan has lost his mind
But it ain't worth a dime.

(sung to the tune of "Camptown Ladies"
Sam Sloan

johnny_t wrote in news:02eb0a33$0$21713$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

The Historian wrote:


I have a friend who has been urging me to read Heinlein. I haven't,
since I generally don't read science-fiction. Any recommendation for a
good 'first' Heinlein, John?

Starship Troopers is a great book. ... A really good first book.


I also suggest The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress.

more on it can be found at...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moo...Harsh_Mistress

With all of this jibber-jabber, Bill Goichberg still has not provided
a verifiable street address where he can be found on a regular basis.

None of these addresses are recognized by the United States Postal
Service.

The courts will need an actual street address, not a PO Box, and so
far Bill Goichberg has not provided one.

Perhaps he should ask the people who live in the house about where the
post office delivers their mail. Every house has an address recognized
by the post office and Bill Goichberg should reveal that address, if
he knows it.

Sam Sloan