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Phil Innes writes (about evidence the USCF is allegedly keeping a lid on): Whatever the reason is, cannot be disclosed, according to legal counsel, because of the Sloan suit - that is the official reason as reported to Chessville by board president Goichberg. Phil, Is a statement by Goichberg on this matter, in his own words, accessible on the Chessville site or anywhere else? If so, could you provide a link? Larry T. On Feb 6, 3:41*pm, "Chess One" wrote: "Mike Murray" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:50:02 -0800, "J.D. Walker" wrote: How about, "The USCF has no reason to hide material that would exonerate Truong..." *P Innes might be able to handle that. Kinda cuts the Gordian Knot, don't it? But its just another speculation in the face of the facts - USCF /are/ deciding to hide material. Given that the fact of hiding /is/ present, the comment that they have no reason to exonerate... is opinion - right? USCF never said so. Maybe its good opinion, but I finish this note with another.. One implication of Mike Murray's sentence, though phrased without the negatives, is to ask why they /are/ hiding material - right? Alternatively; that USCF hides material to implicate rather than exonerate Truong - right? USCF board have actually acted on this hidden material by stripping Truong of his marketing title on the board - though no-one is allowed to know the information that the board acted upon - which is not tested before any court, nor before the membership. Whatever the reason is, cannot be disclosed, according to legal counsel, because of the Sloan suit - that is the official reason as reported to Chessville by board president Goichberg. Of course - this is only what USCF has itself declared. There is one other possibility, and that is that USCF may have some culpability in the affair.. That is a comment completely independent of the fact of the Sloan suit. Phil Innes |
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"Larry Tapper" wrote in message ... Phil Innes writes (about evidence the USCF is allegedly keeping a lid on): Whatever the reason is, cannot be disclosed, according to legal counsel, because of the Sloan suit - that is the official reason as reported to Chessville by board president Goichberg. Phil, Is a statement by Goichberg on this matter, in his own words, accessible on the Chessville site or anywhere else? If so, could you provide a link? Larry T. --- Yes, Larry T. I received it exactly a week ago - from Bill Goicberg representing the majority board decision, with this note appended to top:- "Following is the statement. It was approved 4-1 with Channing opposed." http://www.chessville.com/Editorials...PolgarUSCF.htm It is preceded by remarks by Susan Polgar, then followed by further remarks, which mostly emphasise the first ones. The matter of secret information is not in the least contested by Bill Goichberg. Phil Innes On Feb 6, 3:41 pm, "Chess One" wrote: "Mike Murray" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:50:02 -0800, "J.D. Walker" wrote: How about, "The USCF has no reason to hide material that would exonerate Truong..." P Innes might be able to handle that. Kinda cuts the Gordian Knot, don't it? But its just another speculation in the face of the facts - USCF /are/ deciding to hide material. Given that the fact of hiding /is/ present, the comment that they have no reason to exonerate... is opinion - right? USCF never said so. Maybe its good opinion, but I finish this note with another. One implication of Mike Murray's sentence, though phrased without the negatives, is to ask why they /are/ hiding material - right? Alternatively; that USCF hides material to implicate rather than exonerate Truong - right? USCF board have actually acted on this hidden material by stripping Truong of his marketing title on the board - though no-one is allowed to know the information that the board acted upon - which is not tested before any court, nor before the membership. Whatever the reason is, cannot be disclosed, according to legal counsel, because of the Sloan suit - that is the official reason as reported to Chessville by board president Goichberg. Of course - this is only what USCF has itself declared. There is one other possibility, and that is that USCF may have some culpability in the affair. That is a comment completely independent of the fact of the Sloan suit. Phil Innes |
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On Feb 7, 9:17 am, "Chess One" wrote:
"Larry Tapper" wrote in message ... Phil Innes writes (about evidence the USCF is allegedly keeping a lid on): Whatever the reason is, cannot be disclosed, according to legal counsel, because of the Sloan suit - that is the official reason as reported to Chessville by board president Goichberg. Phil, Is a statement by Goichberg on this matter, in his own words, accessible on the Chessville site or anywhere else? If so, could you provide a link? Larry T. --- Yes, Larry T. I received it exactly a week ago - from Bill Goicberg representing the majority board decision, with this note appended to top:- "Following is the statement. It was approved 4-1 with Channing opposed." http://www.chessville.com/Editorials...PolgarUSCF.htm It is preceded by remarks by Susan Polgar, then followed by further remarks, which mostly emphasise the first ones. The matter of secret information is not in the least contested by Bill Goichberg. Phil Innes On Feb 6, 3:41 pm, "Chess One" wrote: "Mike Murray" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:50:02 -0800, "J.D. Walker" wrote: How about, "The USCF has no reason to hide material that would exonerate Truong..." P Innes might be able to handle that. Kinda cuts the Gordian Knot, don't it? But its just another speculation in the face of the facts - USCF /are/ deciding to hide material. Given that the fact of hiding /is/ present, the comment that they have no reason to exonerate... is opinion - right? USCF never said so. Maybe its good opinion, but I finish this note with another. One implication of Mike Murray's sentence, though phrased without the negatives, is to ask why they /are/ hiding material - right? Alternatively; that USCF hides material to implicate rather than exonerate Truong - right? USCF board have actually acted on this hidden material by stripping Truong of his marketing title on the board - though no-one is allowed to know the information that the board acted upon - which is not tested before any court, nor before the membership. Whatever the reason is, cannot be disclosed, according to legal counsel, because of the Sloan suit - that is the official reason as reported to Chessville by board president Goichberg. Of course - this is only what USCF has itself declared. There is one other possibility, and that is that USCF may have some culpability in the affair. That is a comment completely independent of the fact of the Sloan suit. Phil Innes That is not what the Goichberg statement (that everybody here had already read) says. What is says is: "Attorneys for the USCF have directed the organization not to release any confidential information during the pendency of the Sam Sloan litigation." That has nothing to do with the reason three board members were stripped of their titles. They were stripped of their titles because their titles DO NOT EXIST. There is no such thing as the "Chairman of the USCF". That title is not listed in the by-laws. The By-laws only authorize a President, Vice-President, Secretary and VP-Finance. All other titles were fake. Sam Sloan |
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"samsloan" wrote in message ... On Feb 7, 9:17 am, "Chess One" wrote: "Larry Tapper" wrote in message ... Phil Innes writes (about evidence the USCF is allegedly keeping a lid on): Whatever the reason is, cannot be disclosed, according to legal counsel, because of the Sloan suit - that is the official reason as reported to Chessville by board president Goichberg. Phil, Is a statement by Goichberg on this matter, in his own words, accessible on the Chessville site or anywhere else? If so, could you provide a link? Larry T. --- Yes, Larry T. I received it exactly a week ago - from Bill Goicberg representing the majority board decision, with this note appended to top:- "Following is the statement. It was approved 4-1 with Channing opposed." http://www.chessville.com/Editorials...PolgarUSCF.htm It is preceded by remarks by Susan Polgar, then followed by further remarks, which mostly emphasise the first ones. The matter of secret information is not in the least contested by Bill Goichberg. Phil Innes On Feb 6, 3:41 pm, "Chess One" wrote: "Mike Murray" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:50:02 -0800, "J.D. Walker" wrote: How about, "The USCF has no reason to hide material that would exonerate Truong..." P Innes might be able to handle that. Kinda cuts the Gordian Knot, don't it? But its just another speculation in the face of the facts - USCF /are/ deciding to hide material. Given that the fact of hiding /is/ present, the comment that they have no reason to exonerate... is opinion - right? USCF never said so. Maybe its good opinion, but I finish this note with another. One implication of Mike Murray's sentence, though phrased without the negatives, is to ask why they /are/ hiding material - right? Alternatively; that USCF hides material to implicate rather than exonerate Truong - right? USCF board have actually acted on this hidden material by stripping Truong of his marketing title on the board - though no-one is allowed to know the information that the board acted upon - which is not tested before any court, nor before the membership. Whatever the reason is, cannot be disclosed, according to legal counsel, because of the Sloan suit - that is the official reason as reported to Chessville by board president Goichberg. Of course - this is only what USCF has itself declared. There is one other possibility, and that is that USCF may have some culpability in the affair. That is a comment completely independent of the fact of the Sloan suit. Phil Innes That is not what the Goichberg statement (that everybody here had already read) says. What is says is: Sam - (1) you really have to attend to some logic, and if Larry Tapper asks me to cite the location of the Goichberg announcement, then it is not 'everybody', but to (b) then 'say what it says' as if you make some difference with what I wrote about it, not quoting it, is to suggest you 'say' something other than what I report. People can see for themselves: "Attorneys for the USCF have directed the organization not to release any confidential information during the pendency of the Sam Sloan litigation." and I wrote this: Whatever the reason is, cannot be disclosed, according to legal counsel, because of the Sloan suit - that is the official reason as reported to Chessville by board president Goichberg. What the 'that' which Sloan objects to, are my comments not Goichbergs - which are to the effect, that apart from the Sloan suit - there can be another reason for not releasing information. That has nothing to do with the reason three board members were stripped of their titles. They were stripped of their titles because their titles DO NOT EXIST. Let me not argue with the Sloan - since it if the board did remove titles, then the board thinks they exist. There is no such thing as the "Chairman of the USCF". That title is not listed in the by-laws. The By-laws only authorize a President, Vice-President, Secretary and VP-Finance. All other titles were fake. They are not fake, as much as new. Maybe you don't like them, and maybe you shouldn't like them. But the board adopted them 8 months ago. And true enough - if all the by-laws were actually observed, then we wouldn't be here, would we? Thank you for your unclarifications. Other unclarifications that surround yourself, are that your own Sloan-suit apart, do /you personally/ have an objection to the material being aired? For example, to clarify the issue, so that all can know? That is a question rather than a proxy negotiation; though others have asked about negotiator Hanken's role - though that too cannot be known, since otherwise presumably the sky would fall down. In the mean-time we await Mr. Truong's responses to my current 20 questions, which will have to suffice us until we can all see 'who is clean and who is not'. Phil Innes Sam Sloan |
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On Feb 6, 7:07 am, The Historian wrote:
On Feb 5, 12:42 pm, The Historian wrote: On Feb 5, 12:04 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote: Chess One wrote: Currently I am interviewing Paul Truong with what are probably the hardest set of questions ever put to a USCF board member. I am not conscious of skipping any issue whatever. No doubt, there will be those who would prefer their own wording applied to these questions, but I am writing as a journalist to obtain information by asking real and answerable questions, not as a prosecutor hyperbolizing an issue with a little rhetorical badinage for the peanut gallery. Phil Innes Bowel Boy is a journalist? ROTFLMAO!! Let's take him at his word. Here are some questions I'd like to ask Mr. Truong. Q. A published report by Brian Mottershead links your IP address to numerous obscene posts on the Usenet group rec.games.chess.politics. This report has been reviewed twice by experts and found to have been sound in its methodology and conclusion. Did you make the posts in question? Did your wife Susan Polgar make the posts in question? If you or Susan Polgar did not make the posts, who did? Q. Have you ever posted anonymously to newsgroups? If so, under what screen names? Q. Have you ever sent email under another person's name? Q. Have you ever used remailer programs for posting to newsgroups? Q. Have you ever posted under the name "Bob Bennett" to the chess newsgroups? Q. Have you ever used another person's ID on a chess-playing site? Have you ever used a chess-playing engine while playing a game on a chess-playing site? Q. Have you ever fed hot-sauce to Susan Polgar''s children as punishment or to force them to learn chess? Q. Why did you use the title "Dr." on your homepage when you did not have a doctorate? Q. What business relationship do you have with Rob Mitchell? With his company Chess Masterminds? With Chessville? Q. What business relationship do you have with Philip Keith Innes, AKA Phil Innes? Q. Why did Rob Mitchell offer to be "deposed" if Sloan's lawsuit comes to trial? Q. Who was responsible for the notorious Chess Masterminds press release that claimed Susan Polgar was one of the three strongest chess players in the world, but didn't state that in fact that ranking was among women only? Day one. P Innes has failed to acknowledge these questions. Day three. P Innes continues ignoring these questions. |
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On Feb 5, 12:42 pm, The Historian wrote:
On Feb 5, 12:04 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote: Chess One wrote: Currently I am interviewing Paul Truong with what are probably the hardest set of questions ever put to a USCF board member. I am not conscious of skipping any issue whatever. No doubt, there will be those who would prefer their own wording applied to these questions, but I am writing as a journalist to obtain information by asking real and answerable questions, not as a prosecutor hyperbolizing an issue with a little rhetorical badinage for the peanut gallery. Phil Innes Bowel Boy is a journalist? ROTFLMAO!! Let's take him at his word. Here are some questions I'd like to ask Mr. Truong. Q. A published report by Brian Mottershead links your IP address to numerous obscene posts on the Usenet group rec.games.chess.politics. This report has been reviewed twice by experts and found to have been sound in its methodology and conclusion. Did you make the posts in question? Did your wife Susan Polgar make the posts in question? If you or Susan Polgar did not make the posts, who did? Q. Have you ever posted anonymously to newsgroups? If so, under what screen names? Q. Have you ever sent email under another person's name? Q. Have you ever used remailer programs for posting to newsgroups? Q. Have you ever posted under the name "Bob Bennett" to the chess newsgroups? Q. Have you ever used another person's ID on a chess-playing site? Have you ever used a chess-playing engine while playing a game on a chess-playing site? Q. Have you ever fed hot-sauce to Susan Polgar''s children as punishment or to force them to learn chess? Q. Why did you use the title "Dr." on your homepage when you did not have a doctorate? Q. What business relationship do you have with Rob Mitchell? With his company Chess Masterminds? With Chessville? Q. What business relationship do you have with Philip Keith Innes, AKA Phil Innes? Q. Why did Rob Mitchell offer to be "deposed" if Sloan's lawsuit comes to trial? Q. Who was responsible for the notorious Chess Masterminds press release that claimed Susan Polgar was one of the three strongest chess players in the world, but didn't state that in fact that ranking was among women only? More to come..... http://lizzyknowsall.blogspot.com/20...ar-rating.html Q. Care to explain about the exclusive "hot sauce" club you claim to belong to? Q. Why are you unable to visit California? |
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On Feb 6, 7:07 am, The Historian wrote:
On Feb 5, 12:42 pm, The Historian wrote: On Feb 5, 12:04 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote: Chess One wrote: Currently I am interviewing Paul Truong with what are probably the hardest set of questions ever put to a USCF board member. I am not conscious of skipping any issue whatever. No doubt, there will be those who would prefer their own wording applied to these questions, but I am writing as a journalist to obtain information by asking real and answerable questions, not as a prosecutor hyperbolizing an issue with a little rhetorical badinage for the peanut gallery. Phil Innes Bowel Boy is a journalist? ROTFLMAO!! Let's take him at his word. Here are some questions I'd like to ask Mr. Truong. Q. A published report by Brian Mottershead links your IP address to numerous obscene posts on the Usenet group rec.games.chess.politics. This report has been reviewed twice by experts and found to have been sound in its methodology and conclusion. Did you make the posts in question? Did your wife Susan Polgar make the posts in question? If you or Susan Polgar did not make the posts, who did? Q. Have you ever posted anonymously to newsgroups? If so, under what screen names? Q. Have you ever sent email under another person's name? Q. Have you ever used remailer programs for posting to newsgroups? Q. Have you ever posted under the name "Bob Bennett" to the chess newsgroups? Q. Have you ever used another person's ID on a chess-playing site? Have you ever used a chess-playing engine while playing a game on a chess-playing site? Q. Have you ever fed hot-sauce to Susan Polgar''s children as punishment or to force them to learn chess? Q. Why did you use the title "Dr." on your homepage when you did not have a doctorate? Q. What business relationship do you have with Rob Mitchell? With his company Chess Masterminds? With Chessville? Q. What business relationship do you have with Philip Keith Innes, AKA Phil Innes? Q. Why did Rob Mitchell offer to be "deposed" if Sloan's lawsuit comes to trial? Q. Who was responsible for the notorious Chess Masterminds press release that claimed Susan Polgar was one of the three strongest chess players in the world, but didn't state that in fact that ranking was among women only? Day one. P Innes has failed to acknowledge these questions. Day ten. P Innes continues to ignore questions he should ask Paul Truong. |
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On Feb 7, 12:49 pm, The Historian wrote:
Bowel Boy is a journalist? ROTFLMAO!! Let's take him at his word. Here are some questions I'd like to ask Mr. Truong. Q. A published report by Brian Mottershead links your IP address to numerous obscene posts on the Usenet group rec.games.chess.politics. This report has been reviewed twice by experts and found to have been sound in its methodology and conclusion. Did you make the posts in question? Did your wife Susan Polgar make the posts in question? If you or Susan Polgar did not make the posts, who did? "These attacks are an invasion of my privacy...". [change the subject] Q. Have you ever posted anonymously to newsgroups? If so, under what screen names? "What do you have against anonymous posts? Even if I had...." [duck the question] Q. Have you ever sent email under another person's name? "I often share a computer with others, including my wife and kids..." [duck] Q. Have you ever used remailer programs for posting to newsgroups? "I've heard of those, but I'm no expert on that sort of thing..." [duck] Q. Have you ever posted under the name "Bob Bennett" to the chess newsgroups? "I heard a funny joke the other day. Two GMs are in a sushi bar..." [duck] Q. Have you ever used another person's ID on a chess-playing site? "Sometimes I play under my wife's ID, to get her bullet rating back up..." Have you ever used a chess-playing engine while playing a game on a chess-playing site? "Are you crazy? I would never do that. But in our last article for Chess Life, we had Fritz do most of the grunt work, as usual." Q. Have you ever fed hot-sauce to Susan Polgar''s children as punishment or to force them to learn chess? "Okay, there are three guys in a plane: a Catholic, a Rabbi, and an atheist..." Q. Why did you use the title "Dr." on your homepage when you did not have a doctorate? "That must have been a typo..." Q. What business relationship do you have with Rob Mitchell? With his company Chess Masterminds? With Chessville? "I read an interesting article on Chessville once. It was about the Exchange variation of the..." Q. What business relationship do you have with Philip Keith Innes, AKA Phil Innes? "Who?" Q. Why did Rob Mitchell offer to be "deposed" if Sloan's lawsuit comes to trial? "Don;t talk to me about Sam Sloan-- I get REAL MAD!!! One day soon, I'm gonna kick his..." Q. Who was responsible for the notorious Chess Masterminds press release that claimed Susan Polgar was one of the three strongest chess players in the world, but didn't state that in fact that ranking was among women only? "That was supposed to be understood. Everybody knows that you don;t compare girls to men when it comes to playing chess, 'cause they are, like, dumb." Q. Why are you unable to visit California? "Didn't you know? They have earthquakes there all the time. It's too dangerous for me to take that kind of risk, since I am a very rich man." -- quote bot |
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On Feb 14, 11:06*pm, The Historian
wrote: On Feb 6, 7:07 am, The Historian wrote: On Feb 5, 12:42 pm, The Historian wrote: On Feb 5, 12:04 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote: Chess One wrote: Currently I am interviewing Paul Truong with what are probably the hardest set of questions ever put to a USCF board member. I am not conscious of skipping any issue whatever. No doubt, there will be those who would prefer their own wording applied to these questions, but I am writing as a journalist to obtain information by asking real and answerable questions, not as a prosecutor hyperbolizing an issue with a little rhetorical badinage for the peanut gallery. Phil Innes Bowel Boy is a journalist? *ROTFLMAO!! My goodness.. some of you have a real anal fixation. From a herd of Equus asinus Let's take him at his word. Here are some questions I'd like to ask Mr. Truong. You have a phone? Call him. Be a man . Q. A published report by Brian Mottershead links your IP address to numerous obscene posts on the Usenet group rec.games.chess.politics. This report has been reviewed twice by experts and found to have been sound in its methodology and conclusion. Did you make the posts in question? Did your wife Susan Polgar make the posts in question? If you or Susan Polgar did not make the posts, who did? You didn't understand what was written, did you? Q. Have you ever posted anonymously to newsgroups? If so, under what screen names? You marn posting like this"anonymously,anonymously,anonymously" I just posted it three times! Q. Have you ever sent email under another person's name? Unclear usage of the language.How does one do that? Q. Have you ever used remailer programs for posting to newsgroups? Do you have one to suggest? Q. Have you ever posted under the name "Bob Bennett" to the chess newsgroups? As opposed to posting above,behind or in front of the name? Q. Have you ever used another person's ID on a chess-playing site? Have you ever used a chess-playing engine while playing a game on a chess-playing site? Is that a direct request to improve your rating? Q. Have you ever fed hot-sauce to Susan Polgar''s children as punishment or to force them to learn chess? I would consider kung pow sauce only a punishment if the meal were prepared by a spandex- wearing sausage. Q. Why did you use the title "Dr." on your homepage when you did not have a doctorate? Same place Dr. Demento got his. :-) Be sure of the facts. Not everyone makes their own sites. Q. What business relationship do you have with Rob Mitchell? With his company Chess Masterminds? With Chessville? none. none. don't know Q. Why did Rob Mitchell offer to be "deposed" if Sloan's lawsuit comes to trial? Because.... Q. Who was responsible for the press release that claimed Susan Polgar was one of the three strongest chess players in the world, but didn't state that in fact that ranking was among women only? Same person that couldn't spell the name of "Bering Strait" - |
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"Rob" wrote in message ... No doubt, there will be those who would prefer their own wording applied to these questions, but I am writing as a journalist to obtain information by asking real and answerable questions, not as a prosecutor hyperbolizing an issue with a little rhetorical badinage for the peanut gallery. Phil Innes Bowel Boy is a journalist? ROTFLMAO!! My goodness.. some of you have a real anal fixation. From a herd of Equus asinus **Don't mention it Mr. Rob, they will deny it has any significance! ![]() Let's take him at his word. Here are some questions I'd like to ask Mr. Truong. You have a phone? Call him. Be a man . **I actually asked much tougher questions than's Brennans- shirking nothing. Answers are now in editorial province. Perhaps we will see them this weekend? What a great big thrill for everyone. )...? Q. Have you ever fed hot-sauce to Susan Polgar''s children as punishment or to force them to learn chess? I would consider kung pow sauce only a punishment if the meal were prepared by a spandex- wearing sausage. **pause for a laugh - why do Americans think Asian food hotter - maybe Americans don't know any Central American people? Or don't they want to know them? Q. Why did you use the title "Dr." on your homepage when you did not have a doctorate? Same place Dr. Demento got his. :-) Be sure of the facts. Not everyone makes their own sites. ** Now there's a blast from the past - is Demento still going? He used to be on NPR, but they don't carry California anymore. Q. What business relationship do you have with Rob Mitchell? With his company Chess Masterminds? With Chessville? none. none. don't know **hey Lex! first time you erred. you need to be a little sharper if you have just returned here from Fantasy Chess Island, which is somewhere in the Caribbean, no, and naturally a very relaxed place. maybe you used the private Polgar-Lear jet too? maybe curious minds should investigate you further!? huh? maybe you plan to take over the continent and become the new czar of chess instead of the old bill [English joke], only more cunning? weak minds want to know! daytime tv sucks, right, so let's at least speculate here, and if we are a tad paranoid, and very fat, and into other guy's bottoms and mention their dicks very often, encourage others to do so too! then this is at least understandable as a reaction to daytime tv - trouble is, how do you know you are not talking to the real FSS? i mean, what's the difference? and even if the fat bycyclist is not that person, is there any difference between what he writes and the what the false one did? **Come on - you are the Blair-Slair! - is this the sort of person who when asked for their address for previous libelous statements, declined to offer it, and then shut up for a month? Q. Why did Rob Mitchell offer to be "deposed" if Sloan's lawsuit comes to trial? Because.... **Why does Neil Brennan ask? He writes in all these threads to do with the FSS, always about other people - as if, he himself were somehow interested in ethical probity, while continuing to write trash like he has always done - where actually was his fat arse when the FSS was active? on his bike right! its just curious when the FSS stops, fat-arse comes back - probably complete coincidence, no? Who was responsible for the press release that claimed Susan Polgar was one of the three strongest chess players in the world, but didn't state that in fact that ranking was among women only? Same person that couldn't spell the name of "Bering Strait" **Why are you replying directly to someone who could justly claim to be the weakest chess player in the whole word at his age, and is, you know, maybe just a tad hung up about it? sort of like Winter, but wetter? Phil Innes |
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