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Old February 6th 08, 10:34 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
Brian Lafferty
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Default The Stench of Desperation

On the USCF Issues Forum

How to Escape the FSS/Truong Mess

gregory wrote:

DACP wrote:Go right ahead Gregory.



Gregory Alexander wrote: http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/v ...
4497#p4497


I have many other emails from Donna where she admits talking to, and
getting privileged information from Sam Sloan, but I will keep it at
this; I believe that this proves my point.
-----------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied

There is nothing "privileged" in any of the communication you posted on
chessdiscussion between Sam Sloan and Donna Alarie. Sam Sloan discussed
with a number of people, myself included, the fact that he was planning
to file a legal action. So what, Gregory. None of the emails you posted
from Donna Alarie in any way indicate that Donna was doing anything but
thinking and acting as an independent person concerned with the well
being of the USCF. Your attempt to paint her with the brush of
implication that because she conversed with Sam Sloan she is some how
less than independent is disgusting. My interpretation is that the
Polgar/Truong camp, to which you clearly belong, are getting desperate.
You have utterly failed trying to defend Polgar/Truong on the facts. So
now the personal attacks on individual's character has begun.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Gregory Alexander wrote:
From a purely personal standpoint, I like Donna. However, she is not
against using individuals, however unsavory, to achieve what she
believes to be right. One can think of this quality as being brave, and
perhaps inspirational at times-- but the ends do not justify the means
and you need to be careful about whom you associate with.
--------------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied
In psychology it's called projection. Your comment really says more
about Gregory Alexander than anyone else.
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  #2  
Old February 6th 08, 10:51 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
WPraeder
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Default The Stench of Desperation

On Feb 6, 5:34*am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
On the USCF Issues Forum

How to Escape the FSS/Truong Mess

* * *gregory wrote:

* * * * *DACP wrote:Go right ahead Gregory.

* Gregory Alexander wrote: *http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/v...
4497#p4497

I have many other emails from Donna where she admits talking to, and
getting privileged information from Sam Sloan, but I will keep it at
this; I believe that this proves my point.
-----------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied

There is nothing "privileged" in any of the communication you posted on
chessdiscussion between Sam Sloan and Donna Alarie. Sam Sloan discussed
with a number of people, myself included, the fact that he was planning
to file a legal action. So what, Gregory. None of the emails you posted
from Donna Alarie in any way indicate that Donna was doing anything but
thinking and acting as an independent person concerned with the well
being of the USCF. Your attempt to paint her with the brush of
implication that because she conversed with Sam Sloan she is some how
less than independent is disgusting. My interpretation is that the
Polgar/Truong camp, to which you clearly belong, are getting desperate.
You have utterly failed trying to defend Polgar/Truong on the facts. So
now the personal attacks on individual's character has begun.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Gregory Alexander wrote:

*From a purely personal standpoint, I like Donna. However, she is not
against using individuals, however unsavory, to achieve what she
believes to be right. One can think of this quality as being brave, and
perhaps inspirational at times-- but the ends do not justify the means
and you need to be careful about whom you associate with.
--------------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied
In psychology it's called projection. Your comment really says more
about Gregory Alexander than anyone else.



Brian,

See http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html

Regards,
Wayne Praeder
  #3  
Old February 6th 08, 12:03 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
Brian Lafferty
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Posts: 767
Default The Stench of Desperation

WPraeder wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:34 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
On the USCF Issues Forum

How to Escape the FSS/Truong Mess

gregory wrote:

DACP wrote:Go right ahead Gregory.

Gregory Alexander wrote: http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/v...
4497#p4497

I have many other emails from Donna where she admits talking to, and
getting privileged information from Sam Sloan, but I will keep it at
this; I believe that this proves my point.
-----------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied

There is nothing "privileged" in any of the communication you posted on
chessdiscussion between Sam Sloan and Donna Alarie. Sam Sloan discussed
with a number of people, myself included, the fact that he was planning
to file a legal action. So what, Gregory. None of the emails you posted
from Donna Alarie in any way indicate that Donna was doing anything but
thinking and acting as an independent person concerned with the well
being of the USCF. Your attempt to paint her with the brush of
implication that because she conversed with Sam Sloan she is some how
less than independent is disgusting. My interpretation is that the
Polgar/Truong camp, to which you clearly belong, are getting desperate.
You have utterly failed trying to defend Polgar/Truong on the facts. So
now the personal attacks on individual's character has begun.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Gregory Alexander wrote:

From a purely personal standpoint, I like Donna. However, she is not
against using individuals, however unsavory, to achieve what she
believes to be right. One can think of this quality as being brave, and
perhaps inspirational at times-- but the ends do not justify the means
and you need to be careful about whom you associate with.
--------------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied
In psychology it's called projection. Your comment really says more
about Gregory Alexander than anyone else.



Brian,

See http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html

Regards,
Wayne Praeder


Good link. Thanks, Wayne.
  #4  
Old February 6th 08, 12:28 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
The Historian[_2_]
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Default The Stench of Desperation

On Feb 6, 5:34 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
On the USCF Issues Forum

How to Escape the FSS/Truong Mess

gregory wrote:

DACP wrote:Go right ahead Gregory.

Gregory Alexander wrote: http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/v...
4497#p4497

I have many other emails from Donna where she admits talking to, and
getting privileged information from Sam Sloan, but I will keep it at
this; I believe that this proves my point.
-----------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied

There is nothing "privileged" in any of the communication you posted on
chessdiscussion between Sam Sloan and Donna Alarie. Sam Sloan discussed
with a number of people, myself included, the fact that he was planning
to file a legal action. So what, Gregory.


Sloan discussed it on rgcp. It wasn't a surprise to anyone.

None of the emails you posted
from Donna Alarie in any way indicate that Donna was doing anything but
thinking and acting as an independent person concerned with the well
being of the USCF.


So now the Polgaristas have taken to posting email exchanges without
the permission of the sender?

Your attempt to paint her with the brush of
implication that because she conversed with Sam Sloan she is some how
less than independent is disgusting. My interpretation is that the
Polgar/Truong camp, to which you clearly belong, are getting desperate.
You have utterly failed trying to defend Polgar/Truong on the facts. So
now the personal attacks on individual's character has begun.


"Begun?" They began a long time ago here on rgcp. The Trolgar's
personal 'journalist', the Bowel of Brattleboro, has been smearing
people right and left for months.

--------------------------------------------------------------

Gregory Alexander wrote:

From a purely personal standpoint, I like Donna. However, she is not
against using individuals, however unsavory, to achieve what she
believes to be right. One can think of this quality as being brave, and
perhaps inspirational at times-- but the ends do not justify the means
and you need to be careful about whom you associate with.
--------------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied
In psychology it's called projection. Your comment really says more
about Gregory Alexander than anyone else.


  #5  
Old February 6th 08, 01:13 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
Brian Lafferty
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Default The Stench of Desperation

The Historian wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:34 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
On the USCF Issues Forum

How to Escape the FSS/Truong Mess

gregory wrote:

DACP wrote:Go right ahead Gregory.

Gregory Alexander wrote: http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/v...
4497#p4497

I have many other emails from Donna where she admits talking to, and
getting privileged information from Sam Sloan, but I will keep it at
this; I believe that this proves my point.
-----------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied

There is nothing "privileged" in any of the communication you posted on
chessdiscussion between Sam Sloan and Donna Alarie. Sam Sloan discussed
with a number of people, myself included, the fact that he was planning
to file a legal action. So what, Gregory.


Sloan discussed it on rgcp. It wasn't a surprise to anyone.


True enough.

None of the emails you posted
from Donna Alarie in any way indicate that Donna was doing anything but
thinking and acting as an independent person concerned with the well
being of the USCF.


So now the Polgaristas have taken to posting email exchanges without
the permission of the sender?


Donna Alarie gave Gregory the OK to post whatever he thought "proved"
the smear he was alleging.

Your attempt to paint her with the brush of
implication that because she conversed with Sam Sloan she is some how
less than independent is disgusting. My interpretation is that the
Polgar/Truong camp, to which you clearly belong, are getting desperate.
You have utterly failed trying to defend Polgar/Truong on the facts. So
now the personal attacks on individual's character has begun.


"Begun?" They began a long time ago here on rgcp. The Trolgar's
personal 'journalist', the Bowel of Brattleboro, has been smearing
people right and left for months.

--------------------------------------------------------------

Gregory Alexander wrote:

From a purely personal standpoint, I like Donna. However, she is not
against using individuals, however unsavory, to achieve what she
believes to be right. One can think of this quality as being brave, and
perhaps inspirational at times-- but the ends do not justify the means
and you need to be careful about whom you associate with.
--------------------------------------------------------------

B Lafferty replied
In psychology it's called projection. Your comment really says more
about Gregory Alexander than anyone else.


  #6  
Old February 6th 08, 01:30 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
The Historian[_2_]
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Default The Stench of Desperation

On Feb 6, 8:13 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:

So now the Polgaristas have taken to posting email exchanges without
the permission of the sender?


Donna Alarie gave Gregory the OK to post whatever he thought "proved"
the smear he was alleging.


OK, that's a little more reasonable.
  #7  
Old February 7th 08, 11:22 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
WPraeder
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Posts: 38
Default The Stench of Desperation

On Feb 6, 7:03*am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
WPraeder wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:34 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
On the USCF Issues Forum


How to Escape the FSS/Truong Mess


* * *gregory wrote:


* * * * *DACP wrote:Go right ahead Gregory.


* Gregory Alexander wrote: *http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/v....
4497#p4497


I have many other emails from Donna where she admits talking to, and
getting privileged information from Sam Sloan, but I will keep it at
this; I believe that this proves my point.
-----------------------------------------------------------


B Lafferty replied


There is nothing "privileged" in any of the communication you posted on
chessdiscussion between Sam Sloan and Donna Alarie. Sam Sloan discussed
with a number of people, myself included, the fact that he was planning
to file a legal action. So what, Gregory. None of the emails you posted
from Donna Alarie in any way indicate that Donna was doing anything but
thinking and acting as an independent person concerned with the well
being of the USCF. Your attempt to paint her with the brush of
implication that because she conversed with Sam Sloan she is some how
less than independent is disgusting. My interpretation is that the
Polgar/Truong camp, to which you clearly belong, are getting desperate.
You have utterly failed trying to defend Polgar/Truong on the facts. So
now the personal attacks on individual's character has begun.
--------------------------------------------------------------


Gregory Alexander wrote:


*From a purely personal standpoint, I like Donna. However, she is not
against using individuals, however unsavory, to achieve what she
believes to be right. One can think of this quality as being brave, and
perhaps inspirational at times-- but the ends do not justify the means
and you need to be careful about whom you associate with.
--------------------------------------------------------------


B Lafferty replied
In psychology it's called projection. Your comment really says more
about Gregory Alexander than anyone else.


Brian,


Seehttp://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html


Regards,
Wayne Praeder


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Old February 12th 08, 01:56 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
WPraeder
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Default The Stench of Desperation

On Feb 6, 8:13*am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
The Historian wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:34 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
On the USCF Issues Forum


How to Escape the FSS/Truong Mess


* * *gregory wrote:


* * * * *DACP wrote:Go right ahead Gregory.


* Gregory Alexander wrote: *http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB3/v....
4497#p4497


I have many other emails from Donna where she admits talking to, and
getting privileged information from Sam Sloan, but I will keep it at
this; I believe that this proves my point.
-----------------------------------------------------------


B Lafferty replied


There is nothing "privileged" in any of the communication you posted on
chessdiscussion between Sam Sloan and Donna Alarie. Sam Sloan discussed
with a number of people, myself included, the fact that he was planning
to file a legal action. So what, Gregory.


Sloan discussed it on rgcp. It wasn't a surprise to anyone.


True enough.



None of the emails you posted
from Donna Alarie in any way indicate that Donna was doing anything but
thinking and acting as an independent person concerned with the well
being of the USCF.


So now the Polgaristas have taken to posting email exchanges without
the permission of the sender?


Donna Alarie gave Gregory the OK to post whatever he thought "proved"
the smear he was alleging.





Your attempt to paint her with the brush of
implication that because she conversed with Sam Sloan she is some how
less than independent is disgusting. My interpretation is that the
Polgar/Truong camp, to which you clearly belong, are getting desperate.
You have utterly failed trying to defend Polgar/Truong on the facts. So
now the personal attacks on individual's character has begun.


"Begun?" They began a long time ago here on rgcp. The Trolgar's
personal 'journalist', the Bowel of Brattleboro, has been smearing
people right and left for months.


--------------------------------------------------------------


Gregory Alexander wrote:


*From a purely personal standpoint, I like Donna. However, she is not
against using individuals, however unsavory, to achieve what she
believes to be right. One can think of this quality as being brave, and
perhaps inspirational at times-- but the ends do not justify the means
and you need to be careful about whom you associate with.
--------------------------------------------------------------


B Lafferty replied
In psychology it's called projection. Your comment really says more
about Gregory Alexander than anyone else.- Hide quoted text -


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