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Old February 7th 08, 06:56 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
J.D. Walker
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What is perjury? As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)

If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.
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Old February 7th 08, 07:02 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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On Feb 7, 12:56*pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:
What is perjury? *As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)

If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. *I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. *Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. *That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.


Paul can't testify. He will take the fifth amendment. EVEN if he is
innocent,
the statements he makes can be used against him. Paul Truong has no
business answering questions.

Marcus Roberts
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Old February 7th 08, 07:06 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
J.D. Walker
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wrote:
On Feb 7, 12:56 pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:
What is perjury? As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.

(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)

If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.


Paul can't testify. He will take the fifth amendment. EVEN if he is
innocent,
the statements he makes can be used against him. Paul Truong has no
business answering questions.

Marcus Roberts


So you can take the fifth in civil cases too? I didn't know that.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.
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Old February 7th 08, 07:15 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
marcuswroberts@hughes.net
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On Feb 7, 1:06*pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 7, 12:56 pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:
What is perjury? *As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.


(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)


If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. *I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. *Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. *That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.
--


Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.


Paul can't testify. He will take the fifth amendment. EVEN if he is
innocent,
the statements he makes can be used against him. Paul Truong has no
business answering questions.


Marcus Roberts


So you can take the fifth in civil cases too? *I didn't know that.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.- Hide quoted text -

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YES. Now, if Paul is tried and acquitted or convicted, then he must
answer. But we have the cart before the horse. He didn't deny the
charges under the advice of his attorney.

Marcus
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Old February 7th 08, 07:38 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
Mike Murray
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:56:02 -0800, "J.D. Walker"
wrote:

What is perjury? As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)

If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.


There's a relatively recent twist upon which one of our posters with
a formal legal background may wish to comment, and that's lying to a
federal officer. A fair number of folks have been nailed on this one,
and I think it's a lot looser than the old lying-under-oath
understanding of perjury.
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Old February 7th 08, 09:51 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
marcuswroberts@hughes.net
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On Feb 7, 1:38*pm, Mike Murray wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:56:02 -0800, "J.D. Walker"

wrote:
What is perjury? *As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.


(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)


If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. *I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. *Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. *That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.


There's a relatively recent twist *upon which one of our posters with
a formal legal background may wish to comment, and that's lying to a
federal officer. *A fair number of folks have been nailed on this one,
and I think it's a lot looser than the old lying-under-oath
understanding of perjury.


Yes, Mike, but anyone who is a poster would be foolish to cooperate
with a federal investigation without
a grant of immunity. Even you would be foolish. Nobody is going to
cooperate, except perhaps Judge
Lafferty. I can only talk to feds inside of the Embassy of St Kitts
and Nevis in Washington about St Kitts and Nevis, which
this dispute most certainlly invoves. Some money is invovled, and that
money is centered at Texas Tech,
and that money is protecting Paul Truong to a degree. That money wants
Susan Polgar president of FIDE.
Call it (DJB) and subtract a letter.

So, I doubt any charges will be brought.

Nothing bad happened becasue of it. Emotionally distress, yes, but
nobody died. FBI is quite busy these days with real
terrorists.

We are old news.

Marcus Roberts
  #7  
Old February 8th 08, 04:17 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
jkh001@aim.com
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J.D. Walker wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 7, 12:56 pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:
What is perjury? As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.

(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)

If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.


Paul can't testify. He will take the fifth amendment. EVEN if he is
innocent,
the statements he makes can be used against him. Paul Truong has no
business answering questions.

Marcus Roberts


So you can take the fifth in civil cases too? I didn't know that.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.



No. There is no privilege against self-incrimination in civil cases.
You can refuse to answer and lose your case. Basically, the theory is
that if you want to come into civil court you shouldn't have done
something you're not willing to be deposed about.

  #8  
Old February 8th 08, 08:32 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
J.D. Walker
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wrote:

J.D. Walker wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 7, 12:56 pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:
What is perjury? As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.

(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)

If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.
Paul can't testify. He will take the fifth amendment. EVEN if he is
innocent,
the statements he makes can be used against him. Paul Truong has no
business answering questions.

Marcus Roberts

So you can take the fifth in civil cases too? I didn't know that.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.



No. There is no privilege against self-incrimination in civil cases.
You can refuse to answer and lose your case. Basically, the theory is
that if you want to come into civil court you shouldn't have done
something you're not willing to be deposed about.


Well, this is a bit confusing... I looked at "self-incrimination" at
the Wikipedia site and encountered these definitions,

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-in...-incrimination)

* Barron's Law Dictionary (USA):

SELF-INCRIMINATION, PRIVILEGE AGAINST the constitutional right of a
person to refuse to answer questions or otherwise give testimony against
himself or herself which will subject him or her to an incrimination.
This right under the Fifth Amendment (often called simply PLEADING THE
FIFTH) is now applicable to the states through the due process clause of
the Fourteenth Amendment, 378 U.S. 1,8, and is applicable in any
situation, civil or criminal where the state attempts to compel
incriminating testimony. (There are many caveats following this section.)

* Black's Law Dictionary (USA):

SELF-INCRIMINATION: Acts or declarations either as testimony at
trial or prior to trial by which one implicates himself in a crime. The
Fifth Amendment, U.S. Const. as well as provisions in many state
constitutions and laws, prohibit the government from requiring a person
to be a witness against himself involuntarily or to furnish evidence
against himself. (There are links to other related subjects: Compulsory
self-incrimination; Link-in-chain; Privilege against self-incrimination.)

===

The first definition states that civil cases are included while the
second omits it. Apparently this is not a straightforward question with
a simple answer!

However, as a layman, I tend to believe that John is correct in the
sense that if a defendant repeatedly used the 5th in a civil case he
would be dooming himself/herself to loss of the case with possibly
significant monetary damages.
--

Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.
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Old February 8th 08, 04:06 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
marcuswroberts@hughes.net
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On Feb 7, 10:17*pm, wrote:
J.D. Walker wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 7, 12:56 pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:
What is perjury? *As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.


(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)


If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. *I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. *Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. *That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.
--


Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.


Paul can't testify. He will take the fifth amendment. EVEN if he is
innocent,
the statements he makes can be used against him. Paul Truong has no
business answering questions.


Marcus Roberts


So you can take the fifth in civil cases too? *I didn't know that.
--


Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.


No. There is no privilege against self-incrimination in civil cases.
You can refuse to answer and lose your case. Basically, the theory is
that if you want to come into civil court you shouldn't have done
something you're not willing to be deposed about.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Cite OJ Simpson case. OJ was not tried criminally until the civil case
concluded. A defense may be maintained even though the fifth amendment
is invoked.
I have had similar issues in litigation myself over my wealth. When
you serve as an ambassador in wartime, you get sued in civil matters,
you earn over a million
dollars, you would be suprised how the world really works, chess
player.

Marcus Roberts
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Old February 8th 08, 04:09 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
marcuswroberts@hughes.net
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On Feb 8, 10:06*am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 10:17*pm, wrote:





J.D. Walker wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 7, 12:56 pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:
What is perjury? *As a novice in matters of law, I looked it up at the
Wikipedia site to get a basic understanding.


(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury)


If any of our more knowledgeable readers cares to elaborate, I'd be
appreciative. *I am hoping that the USCF Imposter(s) make it to the
witness stand and lie under oath. *Then hopefully he/she/they will be
unmasked, convicted of perjury and sent to prison. *That would be a
fitting end to all the trouble he/she/they have caused.
--


Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.


Paul can't testify. He will take the fifth amendment. EVEN if he is
innocent,
the statements he makes can be used against him. Paul Truong has no
business answering questions.


Marcus Roberts


So you can take the fifth in civil cases too? *I didn't know that.
--


Cordially,
Rev. J.D. Walker, MsD, U.C.


No. There is no privilege against self-incrimination in civil cases.
You can refuse to answer and lose your case. Basically, the theory is
that if you want to come into civil court you shouldn't have done
something you're not willing to be deposed about.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cite OJ Simpson case. OJ was not tried criminally until the civil case
concluded. A defense may be maintained even though the fifth amendment
is invoked.
I have had similar issues in litigation myself over my wealth. When
you serve as an ambassador in wartime, you get sued in civil matters,
you earn over a million
dollars, you would be suprised how the world really works, chess
player.

Marcus Roberts- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Sorry, OJ's civil trial was delayed until after the criminal trial. OJ
was not tried
in civil court for murder until after he was acquitted in a criminal
trial.

Marcus Roberts
 




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