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Disappointment for Suzie and Mig



 
 
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  #11  
Old February 12th 08, 03:30 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Disappointment for Suzie and Mig

On Feb 12, 7:40 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
Mike Murray wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:30:42 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote:


These are the hallmarks of P Innes' 'journalism.'
What are the odds of a retraction at Chessville?


Why retract when you can deny saying it?


Or, perhaps "don't retract, attack".


Depends on the phases of the Moon, I suppose.
It looks like it's been pulled off of Mig's site.


Well, then, I guess denial will be the order of the day.


It is back up on Mig's site this morning. :-)


There's been a glitch on Mig's homepage for some time. One can
retrieve "lost" posts via the monthly archives on the left.
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  #12  
Old February 12th 08, 03:30 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Disappointment for Suzie and Mig

On Feb 12, 7:40 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
Mike Murray wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:30:42 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote:


These are the hallmarks of P Innes' 'journalism.'
What are the odds of a retraction at Chessville?


Why retract when you can deny saying it?


Or, perhaps "don't retract, attack".


Depends on the phases of the Moon, I suppose.
It looks like it's been pulled off of Mig's site.


Well, then, I guess denial will be the order of the day.


It is back up on Mig's site this morning. :-)


There's been a glitch on Mig's homepage for some time. One can
retrieve "lost" posts via the monthly archives on the left.
  #13  
Old February 12th 08, 03:40 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
The Historian[_2_]
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Default Disappointment for Suzie and Mig

On Feb 11, 1:13 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:
The Historian wrote:
On Feb 11, 10:26 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
From chessdiscussion:
by SusanPolgar on Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:06 am
This is the latest comment from Mig Greengard on his Chess Ninja site:


"My homeboy and regular ICC Chess.FM pilot Joel Benjamin is guest
blogging over at the NY Times Gambit blog. Perhaps a permanent gig? I
stopped reading it when it started treating the moronic Sloan lawsuit
and similar USCF-related idiocy as regular chess news. Anyone can sue
anybody. If someone wins or loses, that might be news. (Might.) Feeding
a troll is feeding a troll whether it's in an obscure message board or
the New York Times. I'd be happy to see a focus on bringing more chess
to the masses instead of waving dirty laundry around every time a USCF
politician soils his drawers. "
------------------------------------------


McClain, the JOURNALIST, is back. Stay tuned for more Suzie
Chesspiece/USCF Follies.


But... but... that can't be true! I read something else from P Innes
at Chessvile:


"New York Times have fired one correspondent of their chess blog and
hired GM Benjamin as replacement. I think the last entry to the
'Gambit blog' was by this Parrot who pointed out a few details,
chessically speaking, about what was reported and what not."


Note the twin P Innes themes in these sentences:


- mistakes and distortion in his reporting;
- a claim, either implied or stated outright, that P Innes was
responsible for the event reported.


These are the hallmarks of P Innes' 'journalism.'


What are the odds of a retraction at Chessville?


Slim and none. This isn't the first time P Innes has demonstrated his
'journalism.' For example, in 2006 P Innes took this comment:

Your long position seems to be that it's just
fine for the USCF to be a complete failure at
promoting chess, so long as it survives. Sad."
- David Kane (Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:16:30 -0800)

P Innes stated at Chessville that it represented a comment on the
ending of Larry Evans' Chess Life column. When it was pointed out that
the quotation had nothing to do with Evans, he refused to correct it.

  #14  
Old February 12th 08, 03:41 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
The Historian[_2_]
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Default Disappointment for Suzie and Mig

On Feb 12, 9:30 am, wrote:
On Feb 12, 7:40 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:







Mike Murray wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:30:42 GMT, Brian Lafferty
wrote:


These are the hallmarks of P Innes' 'journalism.'
What are the odds of a retraction at Chessville?


Why retract when you can deny saying it?


Or, perhaps "don't retract, attack".


Depends on the phases of the Moon, I suppose.
It looks like it's been pulled off of Mig's site.


Well, then, I guess denial will be the order of the day.


It is back up on Mig's site this morning. :-)


There's been a glitch on Mig's homepage for some time. One can
retrieve "lost" posts via the monthly archives on the left.


There's a glitch in your posting. There are four copies of your post.
  #15  
Old February 12th 08, 09:32 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Disappointment for Suzie and Mig


"The Historian" wrote in message
...
On Feb 11, 1:13 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:
The Historian wrote:
On Feb 11, 10:26 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
From chessdiscussion:
by SusanPolgar on Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:06 am
This is the latest comment from Mig Greengard on his Chess Ninja site:


"My homeboy and regular ICC Chess.FM pilot Joel Benjamin is guest
blogging over at the NY Times Gambit blog. Perhaps a permanent gig? I
stopped reading it when it started treating the moronic Sloan lawsuit
and similar USCF-related idiocy as regular chess news. Anyone can sue
anybody. If someone wins or loses, that might be news. (Might.) Feeding
a troll is feeding a troll whether it's in an obscure message board or
the New York Times. I'd be happy to see a focus on bringing more chess
to the masses instead of waving dirty laundry around every time a USCF
politician soils his drawers. "
------------------------------------------


McClain, the JOURNALIST, is back. Stay tuned for more Suzie
Chesspiece/USCF Follies.


But... but... that can't be true! I read something else from P Innes
at Chessvile:


"New York Times have fired one correspondent of their chess blog and
hired GM Benjamin as replacement. I think the last entry to the
'Gambit blog' was by this Parrot who pointed out a few details,
chessically speaking, about what was reported and what not."


Note the twin P Innes themes in these sentences:


- mistakes and distortion in his reporting;
- a claim, either implied or stated outright, that P Innes was
responsible for the event reported.


These are the hallmarks of P Innes' 'journalism.'


What are the odds of a retraction at Chessville?


Slim and none. This isn't the first time P Innes has demonstrated his
'journalism.' For example, in 2006 P Innes took this comment:

Your long position seems to be that it's just
fine for the USCF to be a complete failure at
promoting chess, so long as it survives. Sad."
- David Kane (Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:16:30 -0800)

P Innes stated at Chessville that it represented a comment on the
ending of Larry Evans' Chess Life column. When it was pointed out that
the quotation had nothing to do with Evans, he refused to correct it.


Even more revealing of his journalistic "standards", he now
argues that a phony "offer" to correct his error is better than
actually correcting it.

  #16  
Old February 13th 08, 05:08 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
The Historian[_2_]
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Default Disappointment for Suzie and Mig

On Feb 12, 3:32 pm, "David Kane" wrote:
"The Historian" wrote in message

...



On Feb 11, 1:13 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:
The Historian wrote:
On Feb 11, 10:26 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
From chessdiscussion:
by SusanPolgar on Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:06 am
This is the latest comment from Mig Greengard on his Chess Ninja site:


"My homeboy and regular ICC Chess.FM pilot Joel Benjamin is guest
blogging over at the NY Times Gambit blog. Perhaps a permanent gig? I
stopped reading it when it started treating the moronic Sloan lawsuit
and similar USCF-related idiocy as regular chess news. Anyone can sue
anybody. If someone wins or loses, that might be news. (Might.) Feeding
a troll is feeding a troll whether it's in an obscure message board or
the New York Times. I'd be happy to see a focus on bringing more chess
to the masses instead of waving dirty laundry around every time a USCF
politician soils his drawers. "
------------------------------------------


McClain, the JOURNALIST, is back. Stay tuned for more Suzie
Chesspiece/USCF Follies.


But... but... that can't be true! I read something else from P Innes
at Chessvile:


"New York Times have fired one correspondent of their chess blog and
hired GM Benjamin as replacement. I think the last entry to the
'Gambit blog' was by this Parrot who pointed out a few details,
chessically speaking, about what was reported and what not."


Note the twin P Innes themes in these sentences:


- mistakes and distortion in his reporting;
- a claim, either implied or stated outright, that P Innes was
responsible for the event reported.


These are the hallmarks of P Innes' 'journalism.'


What are the odds of a retraction at Chessville?


Slim and none. This isn't the first time P Innes has demonstrated his
'journalism.' For example, in 2006 P Innes took this comment:


Your long position seems to be that it's just
fine for the USCF to be a complete failure at
promoting chess, so long as it survives. Sad."
- David Kane (Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:16:30 -0800)


P Innes stated at Chessville that it represented a comment on the
ending of Larry Evans' Chess Life column. When it was pointed out that
the quotation had nothing to do with Evans, he refused to correct it.


Even more revealing of his journalistic "standards", he now
argues that a phony "offer" to correct his error is better than
actually correcting it.


It's not just his 'standards', but also that of Chessville. After all,
they publish his 'journalism.'

 




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