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Old February 21st 08, 01:43 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Sam,


Note to Phil: I always have respected you, despite our disagreement
over certain matters, long forgotten by me.


Never mind them bananas, Frank. Concentrate on your opening prep, and your
play OTB. If we need to raise $7.50 for the computer, I volunteer the first
50 cents! which is erm, a certain percentage of the whole, though
psychologically the first penny is the greatest, no? I know 2 people you
also know willing to come up with the other 7 bucks.

And one other thing, why don't you stop respecting me and instead write for
Chessville about the gig? We should like a reporter on the scene to give it
some color. Let me know, publisher would we happy to feature your report -
and I will inform him of his opinion.

We are pretty much at Chessville about chess as it exists, rather than what
cudda been, or what shudda been. Though we err towards what aughta, which,
imo, is betta.

Cordially, Phil

Best wishes to all,
Frank



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Old February 21st 08, 02:56 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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On Feb 20, 5:59 pm, "
wrote:
Sam,

Do you seriously think that a laptop from that time period is worth
more than the time and legal fees required to sue for it? You have to
resist the urge to file lawsuits for the thrill of it, and restrict
yourself to cases where there is a serious and rectifiable grievance.
If you would limit yourself to pursuing Truong, you would get much
more support and sympathy.

Jerry Spinrad


Absolutely, if you had read the court pleadings, you would know how
tremendously important that laptop is.

In August, 1999 the USCF had $2 million (two million dollars) in the
LMA account with the Oberweis Fund. That was when George DeFeis took
over as Executive Director.

By August 2003 that $2 million was completely gone, lost, misplaced or
perhaps stolen. That was when Frank Niro abruptly left and
disappeared.

That laptop should be able to tell us or at least to give us some
information what happened to the $2 million.

Another issue concerns Truong and Polgar. It seems that while he was
Executive Director, Frank Niro was extremely generous with Truong and
Polgar. They wound up getting about $50,000 out of the USCF at a time
when the USCF was broke, insolvent and virtually bankrupt. This money
comes from both cash money Frank Niro gave them while Executive
Director, and contracts they claimed to have made with Frank Niro
while he was Executive Director, plus contracts Truong and Polgar
claimed to have made with Frank Niro representing the USCF while he
was Executive Director. There is also the question of the Susan Polgar
Foundation which Frank Niro secretly founded and established while he
was Executive Director, without the knowledge of the USCF Board. Also,
the so-called Four-Way Contract which according Truong and Polgar
required the USCF to pay them $50,000 for training the US Woman's
Olympiad Team was secretly signed by Frank Niro. The USCF Board did
not find out about it until after Frank Niro had disappeared.

There is also the invoice dated October, 2003 from Truong and Polgar
to the USCF demanding payment of $17,000 for appearance fees for
attending the 2003 US Open in Los Angeles and a few other events. They
claimed that Frank Niro had agreed to pay this amount. That
information too would be found on that laptop. That was the invoice
that Bill Goichberg wound up paying $13,358.56 on in November 2003.
Even the article that appears in the February 2008 Chess Life by Susan
Polgar for which she is paid at least $500 is based on one of these
secret contracts with Frank Niro.

Simply stated, a lot of money has been lost and if Frank Niro cannot
produce that laptop, he should be looking at jail time.

Sam Sloan
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Old February 21st 08, 05:42 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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samsloan wrote:
On Feb 20, 5:59 pm, "
wrote:
Sam,

Do you seriously think that a laptop from that time period is worth
more than the time and legal fees required to sue for it? You have to
resist the urge to file lawsuits for the thrill of it, and restrict
yourself to cases where there is a serious and rectifiable grievance.
If you would limit yourself to pursuing Truong, you would get much
more support and sympathy.

Jerry Spinrad


Absolutely, if you had read the court pleadings, you would know how
tremendously important that laptop is.

In August, 1999 the USCF had $2 million (two million dollars) in the
LMA account with the Oberweis Fund. That was when George DeFeis took
over as Executive Director.

By August 2003 that $2 million was completely gone, lost, misplaced or
perhaps stolen. That was when Frank Niro abruptly left and
disappeared.

That laptop should be able to tell us or at least to give us some
information what happened to the $2 million.

Another issue concerns Truong and Polgar. It seems that while he was
Executive Director, Frank Niro was extremely generous with Truong and
Polgar. They wound up getting about $50,000 out of the USCF at a time
when the USCF was broke, insolvent and virtually bankrupt. This money
comes from both cash money Frank Niro gave them while Executive
Director, and contracts they claimed to have made with Frank Niro
while he was Executive Director, plus contracts Truong and Polgar
claimed to have made with Frank Niro representing the USCF while he
was Executive Director. There is also the question of the Susan Polgar
Foundation which Frank Niro secretly founded and established while he
was Executive Director, without the knowledge of the USCF Board. Also,
the so-called Four-Way Contract which according Truong and Polgar
required the USCF to pay them $50,000 for training the US Woman's
Olympiad Team was secretly signed by Frank Niro. The USCF Board did
not find out about it until after Frank Niro had disappeared.

There is also the invoice dated October, 2003 from Truong and Polgar
to the USCF demanding payment of $17,000 for appearance fees for
attending the 2003 US Open in Los Angeles and a few other events. They
claimed that Frank Niro had agreed to pay this amount. That
information too would be found on that laptop. That was the invoice
that Bill Goichberg wound up paying $13,358.56 on in November 2003.
Even the article that appears in the February 2008 Chess Life by Susan
Polgar for which she is paid at least $500 is based on one of these
secret contracts with Frank Niro.

Simply stated, a lot of money has been lost and if Frank Niro cannot
produce that laptop, he should be looking at jail time.

Sam Sloan




Sheer Sloonacy. All those payments were explained to you repeatedly
during your misbegotten term on the Board, and the fact fact that you
are an innumerate who can't read a balance sheet is your problem, not
ours. The famous laptop will not tell anyone anything, since the hard
drive has long since been trashed. If you were really concerned about
the USCF's finances (rather than harassing those, like Polgar, who
view you with well-justified contempt), you would stop enriching the
USCF's lawyers and go back to driving a cab. Oh, I forgot, you were
disqualified from that.
  #14  
Old February 21st 08, 10:21 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,misc.legal
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On Feb 20, 6:53 pm, ChessSafari @ yahoo.com wrote:
Sam,

I am not your enemy. I put my address here so that you or anyone else
that has a need to can properly contact (or serve) me.

The USCF has continually had my address, so how can someone be
searching for me for four months? If you search my name on Google, it
brings you immediately to my blog. Such has been the case for two
years, at least.

Furthermore, my book is not yet finished so anything can still be
revised.

Finally, if anyone at USCF thinks I owe them money for the laptop or
anything else, just send me a bill and I will pay it as soon as I can.

The laptop is long ago dead and had no files on it in any event that
would be of interest to anyone but me. I can't understand why you
would think otherwise.

Note to Phil: I always have respected you, despite our disagreement
over certain matters, long forgotten by me.

Best wishes to all,
Frank


Mr. Niro,

We are not interested in receiving $500 from you. We are demanding the
return of the USCF's laptop computer that you stole.

That computer contains corporate files and records. It may contain
information concerning the two million dollars that is missing, lost
or stolen. If you do not return that computer, you are facing serious
jail time.

The computer is to be delivered to the USCF's Internet Attorney at the
following address:

Karl Kronenberger
150 Post Street, Suite 520
San Francisco, CA 94108-4707
415-955-1155 ext. 114
karl @ kronenbergerlaw.com
http://www.kronenbergerlaw.com/karl_...r_profile.html

Under no circumstances is this laptop computer to be given to Bill
Hall. Bill Hall is dishonest, unreliable, lies all the time, and is
almost as bad and possibly even worse than you were.

The destruction of corporate records is a crime. If you have trashed
that computer you have committed a crime. Since you state that you
needed that computer to write your book, nobody will believe that you
threw it away.

By the way, if you need a publisher for your book, I will be happy to
publish it for you. I have published 30 books in the past year. My
latest book "The Blue Book and Encyclopedia of Chess" will be out in
about ten days. My most recent previous book came out last week:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0923891900

Sam Sloan
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Old February 21st 08, 11:03 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,misc.legal
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samsloan wrote:
On Feb 20, 6:53 pm, ChessSafari @ yahoo.com wrote:
Sam,

I am not your enemy. I put my address here so that you or anyone else
that has a need to can properly contact (or serve) me.

The USCF has continually had my address, so how can someone be
searching for me for four months? If you search my name on Google, it
brings you immediately to my blog. Such has been the case for two
years, at least.

Furthermore, my book is not yet finished so anything can still be
revised.

Finally, if anyone at USCF thinks I owe them money for the laptop or
anything else, just send me a bill and I will pay it as soon as I can.

The laptop is long ago dead and had no files on it in any event that
would be of interest to anyone but me. I can't understand why you
would think otherwise.

Note to Phil: I always have respected you, despite our disagreement
over certain matters, long forgotten by me.

Best wishes to all,
Frank


Mr. Niro,

We are not interested in receiving $500 from you. We are demanding the
return of the USCF's laptop computer that you stole.

That computer contains corporate files and records. It may contain
information concerning the two million dollars that is missing, lost
or stolen. If you do not return that computer, you are facing serious
jail time.

The computer is to be delivered to the USCF's Internet Attorney at the
following address:

Karl Kronenberger
150 Post Street, Suite 520
San Francisco, CA 94108-4707
415-955-1155 ext. 114
karl @ kronenbergerlaw.com
http://www.kronenbergerlaw.com/karl_...r_profile.html

Under no circumstances is this laptop computer to be given to Bill
Hall. Bill Hall is dishonest, unreliable, lies all the time, and is
almost as bad and possibly even worse than you were.

The destruction of corporate records is a crime. If you have trashed
that computer you have committed a crime. Since you state that you
needed that computer to write your book, nobody will believe that you
threw it away.

By the way, if you need a publisher for your book, I will be happy to
publish it for you. I have published 30 books in the past year. My
latest book "The Blue Book and Encyclopedia of Chess" will be out in
about ten days. My most recent previous book came out last week:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0923891900

Sam Sloan




Who is "we," Sam? You have no standing. You are not an officer of the
USCF, having been utterly rejected by the voters last year. Nor are
you a law-enforcement officer (able to prosecute crimes), or an
attorney (with the slightest notion of what the term "corporate
records" actually means). Why don't you crawl back in your hole and
stop embarrassing us all? You're a superannuated buffoon, Sam. Live
with it.
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Old February 21st 08, 11:30 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,misc.legal
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Although I lost re-election to the board, which I am contesting, I am
still a delegate and thus have standing. Even if I were not a delegate
I am still a USCF member and thus have standing.

Frank Niro needs to return that laptop that he had stolen from the
USCF's office in New Windsor, New York on August 20, 2003 or else face
arrest and criminal prosecution for this theft.

Sam Sloan
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Old February 21st 08, 04:45 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,misc.legal
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"samsloan" wrote in message
...

Finally, if anyone at USCF thinks I owe them money for the laptop or
anything else, just send me a bill and I will pay it as soon as I can.

The laptop is long ago dead and had no files on it in any event that
would be of interest to anyone but me. I can't understand why you
would think otherwise.

Note to Phil: I always have respected you, despite our disagreement
over certain matters, long forgotten by me.

Best wishes to all,
Frank


Mr. Niro,

We are not interested in receiving $500 from you. We are demanding the
return of the USCF's laptop computer that you stole.


Earth to Slone Ranger - who is 'we' white man?

What I would like to know about this issue is what the CPA said. After all,
he cannot sign-off on accounts when assets are missing, and if there was no
questioning of it, or of any datum [what an inane idea that some two million
of money should be located digitally on just one laptop!! no paper records,
really?]

So who is this 'we'? All I see is Sloan alone raising an issue when all
others seem to have said there is not any issue.

That computer contains corporate files and records. It may contain
information concerning the two million dollars that is missing, lost
or stolen.


Surely it might!! But so might the wharehouse where the moudering mess of
the US Archive is currently located. When Super-Sloan raised /that/ issue, I
said at the time, 'go in there and index it'. He didn't.

What I read above is speculation of what may be. When Super-Sloan was on the
board he coulda actually done something himself, like look in the
wharehouse! But he didn't.

And the 'missing' $2 million dollars is missing according to what CPA? What
audited records? Is it in cash or in kind, in depreciated material? What?

But hey - the renewed solo-Sloan has returned to demanding something on
behalf of 'we' that 'may' have something to do with what is 'maybe' missing.
And why not ask for the impossible - a dead computer from a guy who had a
heart attack?

What could be more fun than that?

But solo-Sloan should not write 'we' to his re-invigorated MacCarthy-ite
tactics, because he is in some danger of confusing that 'we' with 'us'. That
is, we the chess public.

If you do not return that computer, you are facing serious
jail time.


Look around you Kemo-Sloan, how come everyone else look heap-um like Tonto?

Cordially Sniffs-with-Skunks




The computer is to be delivered to the USCF's Internet Attorney at the
following address:

Karl Kronenberger
150 Post Street, Suite 520
San Francisco, CA 94108-4707
415-955-1155 ext. 114
karl @ kronenbergerlaw.com
http://www.kronenbergerlaw.com/karl_...r_profile.html

Under no circumstances is this laptop computer to be given to Bill
Hall. Bill Hall is dishonest, unreliable, lies all the time, and is
almost as bad and possibly even worse than you were.

The destruction of corporate records is a crime. If you have trashed
that computer you have committed a crime. Since you state that you
needed that computer to write your book, nobody will believe that you
threw it away.

By the way, if you need a publisher for your book, I will be happy to
publish it for you. I have published 30 books in the past year. My
latest book "The Blue Book and Encyclopedia of Chess" will be out in
about ten days. My most recent previous book came out last week:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0923891900

Sam Sloan



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Old February 21st 08, 06:49 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,misc.legal
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On Feb 21, 10:45 am, "Chess One" wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message

So who is this 'we'? All I see is Sloan alone raising an issue when all
others seem to have said there is not any issue.

That computer contains corporate files and records. It may contain
information concerning the two million dollars that is missing, lost
or stolen.


Surely it might!! But so might the wharehouse where the moudering mess of
the US Archive is currently located. When Super-Sloan raised /that/ issue, I
said at the time, 'go in there and index it'. He didn't.

What I read above is speculation of what may be. When Super-Sloan was on the
board he coulda actually done something himself, like look in the
wharehouse! But he didn't.

And the 'missing' $2 million dollars is missing according to what CPA? What
audited records? Is it in cash or in kind, in depreciated material? What?


Your spell checker is not working. It is whorehouse, not wharehouse.

I did everything I possibly could about this issue when I was on the
board. In the first place, it was I who discovered on Frank Niro's
website chesssafari.com (that he quickly took down after I pointed
this out) that Susan Polgar and Paul Truong had stolen the laptop
computer on August 20, 2003 by entering the USCF's offices just as
Mike Nolan was leaving to return to Nebraska and only a few minutes
later when the newly elected officers Beatriz Marinello and Tim Hanke
arrived to take over the operation, the laptop computer had gone
missing.

Later, Susan Polgar and Paul Truong admitted here that they had taken
the laptop.

All discussion of this subject was banned on the USCF Forums by
Goichberg who was at that time supporting Truong and Polgar for
election. Had the electorate known that Truong and Polgar stole the
laptop computer, Truong certainly would not have been elected and
Polgar might not have been elected either in spite of being a self-
made celebrity.

Thus, Goichberg is also guilty of covering up the theft of the
computer.

As for the "moudering mess of the USCF Archive" (you need to use a
spell-checker) it is still not known what records are in the storage
bin and what has been trashed. Bill Hall was told be the board to
index it all back in September 2006 but of course he has not even
begun to do so so we do not know what is there.

Sam Sloan
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Old February 21st 08, 07:02 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,misc.legal
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"samsloan" wrote in message
...
On Feb 21, 10:45 am, "Chess One" wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message

So who is this 'we'? All I see is Sloan alone raising an issue when all
others seem to have said there is not any issue.

That computer contains corporate files and records. It may contain
information concerning the two million dollars that is missing, lost
or stolen.


Surely it might!! But so might the wharehouse where the moudering mess of
the US Archive is currently located. When Super-Sloan raised /that/
issue, I
said at the time, 'go in there and index it'. He didn't.

What I read above is speculation of what may be. When Super-Sloan was on
the
board he coulda actually done something himself, like look in the
wharehouse! But he didn't.

And the 'missing' $2 million dollars is missing according to what CPA?
What
audited records? Is it in cash or in kind, in depreciated material? What?


Your spell checker is not working. It is whorehouse, not wharehouse.


Charming! Had a good morning?

I did everything I possibly could about this issue when I was on the
board. In the first place, it was I who discovered on Frank Niro's
website chesssafari.com (that he quickly took down after I pointed
this out) that Susan Polgar and Paul Truong had stolen the laptop


Wait wait wait! Your mind is back in the whorehouse! None of these answer
what I asked - its just the usual rant, sort of pro-forma hate and
disparagement. Let me just speed-read the rest and see if there are any
facts in it in response to my questions...

computer on August 20, 2003 by entering the USCF's offices just as
Mike Nolan was leaving to return to Nebraska and only a few minutes
later when the newly elected officers Beatriz Marinello and Tim Hanke
arrived to take over the operation, the laptop computer had gone
missing.

Later, Susan Polgar and Paul Truong admitted here that they had taken
the laptop.

All discussion of this subject was banned on the USCF Forums by
Goichberg who was at that time supporting Truong and Polgar for
election. Had the electorate known that Truong and Polgar stole the
laptop computer, Truong certainly would not have been elected and
Polgar might not have been elected either in spite of being a self-
made celebrity.

Thus, Goichberg is also guilty of covering up the theft of the
computer.

As for the "moudering mess of the USCF Archive" (you need to use a
spell-checker) it is still not known what records are in the storage
bin and what has been trashed. Bill Hall was told be the board to
index it all back in September 2006 but of course he has not even
begun to do so so we do not know what is there.

Sam Sloan


Nothing there!

This is going to be some tough case to prosecute - in response to Defense
attorney Innes's questions on the charges:-

And the 'missing' $2 million dollars is missing according to what CPA?
What
audited records? Is it in cash or in kind, in depreciated material?
What?

Prosecutor replied at some length, none of which constituted an Answer to
why all had gathered in the courtroom.

Innes then moved that the case be thrown out, and the Judge, rising from his
seat, said, "Belay! I'll throw it out myself! Case dismissed."

PI



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Old February 21st 08, 08:31 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,misc.legal
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On Feb 21, 1:02 pm, "Chess One" wrote:

And the 'missing' $2 million dollars is missing according to what CPA?
What audited records? Is it in cash or in kind, in depreciated material?


The $2 million dollars was in cash or cash equivalents.

Since you are not a USCF member you cannot see the audited reports
that are online.

The losses are shown. However, they do not show what happened to the
money. That is why we need the laptop computer that Frank Niro took.

Sam Sloan
 




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