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Did Louis H. Watson write one, two or three books on bridge??



 
 
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Old March 18th 08, 11:44 PM posted to rec.games.bridge,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Jürgen R.
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Default Did Louis H. Watson write one, two or three books on bridge??


"samsloan" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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The two Watson books were both published in 1934. It is not possible
to determine which was published first because they both cite the
other one.

However, there is a big difference between them. "Watson on the Play
of the Hand at Contract Bridge" is 492 pages, a very dense book. It
only deals with the play of the hand.

"The Outline of Contract Bridge" by Watson in only 348 pages and only
147 of those pages deal with the play of the hand. The rest of the
book is about bidding on the "Honor Tricks" system which is of course
obsolete (I think).

What most have probably read is the updated version of "Watson on the
Play of the Hand at Contract Bridge" updated by Sam Fry in 1958 and
several times thereafter. Sam Fry was often the partner of Watson.

I have both of the 1934 books in hard cover mint condition. I plan to
reprint both of them. I cannot touch the Sam Fry updates because the
copyrights are current on those.

The introduction to "Watson on the Play of the Hand at Contract
Bridge" by Oswald Jacoby states that Watson never made a mistake in
the play of the hand. You heard that right. Watson never made a
mistake. Remarkable. The only other person I ever heard of who never
made a mistake was me.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Sam Sloan


Yes, I do have a suggestion: You do not hold the copyright for the Watson
books and they are not in the public domain.
Therefore, if you are not a thief you will not 'publish' these books.

Of course, you are not publishing a book in the normal sense of the word -
you are running of copies and having them
glued together at a 'publish-on-demand' shop, which is also illegal.

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Old March 19th 08, 12:11 AM posted to rec.games.bridge,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
samsloan
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Default Did Louis H. Watson write one, two or three books on bridge??

On Mar 18, 6:44 pm, Jürgen R. wrote:
"samsloan" schrieb im ...



The two Watson books were both published in 1934. It is not possible
to determine which was published first because they both cite the
other one.


However, there is a big difference between them. "Watson on the Play
of the Hand at Contract Bridge" is 492 pages, a very dense book. It
only deals with the play of the hand.


"The Outline of Contract Bridge" by Watson in only 348 pages and only
147 of those pages deal with the play of the hand. The rest of the
book is about bidding on the "Honor Tricks" system which is of course
obsolete (I think).


What most have probably read is the updated version of "Watson on the
Play of the Hand at Contract Bridge" updated by Sam Fry in 1958 and
several times thereafter. Sam Fry was often the partner of Watson.


I have both of the 1934 books in hard cover mint condition. I plan to
reprint both of them. I cannot touch the Sam Fry updates because the
copyrights are current on those.


The introduction to "Watson on the Play of the Hand at Contract
Bridge" by Oswald Jacoby states that Watson never made a mistake in
the play of the hand. You heard that right. Watson never made a
mistake. Remarkable. The only other person I ever heard of who never
made a mistake was me.


Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Sam Sloan


Yes, I do have a suggestion: You do not hold the copyright for the Watson
books and they are not in the public domain.
Therefore, if you are not a thief you will not 'publish' these books.

Of course, you are not publishing a book in the normal sense of the word -
you are running of copies and having them
glued together at a 'publish-on-demand' shop, which is also illegal.


You are in Germany and German law is different. From what I
understand, copyrights never expire in Germany.

As to the quality of my books, you have obviously never seen one of
them. My books are of the highest production quality anywhere, far
better than anything now available in Europe.

Sam Sloan
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Old March 19th 08, 01:07 AM posted to rec.games.bridge,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Andrew[_2_]
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Default Did Louis H. Watson write one, two or three books on bridge??

On Mar 18, 3:44 pm, Jürgen R. wrote:
"samsloan" schrieb im ...



The two Watson books were both published in 1934. It is not possible
to determine which was published first because they both cite the
other one.


However, there is a big difference between them. "Watson on the Play
of the Hand at Contract Bridge" is 492 pages, a very dense book. It
only deals with the play of the hand.


"The Outline of Contract Bridge" by Watson in only 348 pages and only
147 of those pages deal with the play of the hand. The rest of the
book is about bidding on the "Honor Tricks" system which is of course
obsolete (I think).


What most have probably read is the updated version of "Watson on the
Play of the Hand at Contract Bridge" updated by Sam Fry in 1958 and
several times thereafter. Sam Fry was often the partner of Watson.


I have both of the 1934 books in hard cover mint condition. I plan to
reprint both of them. I cannot touch the Sam Fry updates because the
copyrights are current on those.


The introduction to "Watson on the Play of the Hand at Contract
Bridge" by Oswald Jacoby states that Watson never made a mistake in
the play of the hand. You heard that right. Watson never made a
mistake. Remarkable. The only other person I ever heard of who never
made a mistake was me.


Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Sam Sloan


Yes, I do have a suggestion: You do not hold the copyright for the Watson
books and they are not in the public domain.


In the US these books may be in the public domain. In the US:

1. All books published before 1923 are in the public domain

2. All books published between 1923 and 1963 are in the public domain
unless their copyright was renewed by the copyright holder within 28
years of publication at the Library of Congress

3. All books published since 1964 are not in the public domain


Andrew


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Old March 19th 08, 01:13 AM posted to rec.games.bridge,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics,alt.chess
Tim
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Default Did Louis H. Watson write one, two or three books on bridge??

On Mar 18, 4:48 pm, samsloan wrote:
The rest of the
book is about bidding on the "Honor Tricks" system which is of course
obsolete (I think).


Honor tricks are not quite obsolete as an evaluation tool, but
probably pretty close.
  #15  
Old March 19th 08, 02:18 AM posted to rec.games.bridge,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
samsloan
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Default Did Louis H. Watson write one, two or three books on bridge??

On Mar 18, 8:07 pm, Andrew wrote:

In the US these books may be in the public domain. In the US:

1. All books published before 1923 are in the public domain

2. All books published between 1923 and 1963 are in the public domain
unless their copyright was renewed by the copyright holder within 28
years of publication at the Library of Congress

3. All books published since 1964 are not in the public domain

Andrew


Right, exactly.

Every time I reprint a book I first check with the copyright office
and Library of Congress in Washington DC to make sure that I have the
right to reprint it, except of course in those cases where the author
has asked me to reprint his book, such as for example in the case of
"Elista Diaries" where a former world chess champion asked me to
reprint a book of his that had gone out of print.

Book sales are down world-wide as everybody reads the Internet now, so
many authors have been asking me to reprint their books just to get
them back in circulation again.

Sam Sloan
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Old March 19th 08, 03:07 AM posted to rec.games.bridge,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics,alt.chess
samsloan
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Default Did Louis H. Watson write one, two or three books on bridge??

My book will be much better in appearance than the Sam Fry book
because I will have blown it up to 6 x 9. The print quality will be
better and fonts will be larger and easier and more pleasant to read.
This is because I have access to high tech equipment that produces
perfect reproductions in 600 dpi.

Sam Sloan
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Old March 19th 08, 11:59 AM posted to rec.games.bridge,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Jürgen R.
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Default Did Louis H. Watson write one, two or three books on bridge??


"samsloan" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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On Mar 18, 6:44 pm, Jürgen R. wrote:
"samsloan" schrieb im
...



The two Watson books were both published in 1934. It is not possible
to determine which was published first because they both cite the
other one.


However, there is a big difference between them. "Watson on the Play
of the Hand at Contract Bridge" is 492 pages, a very dense book. It
only deals with the play of the hand.


"The Outline of Contract Bridge" by Watson in only 348 pages and only
147 of those pages deal with the play of the hand. The rest of the
book is about bidding on the "Honor Tricks" system which is of course
obsolete (I think).


What most have probably read is the updated version of "Watson on the
Play of the Hand at Contract Bridge" updated by Sam Fry in 1958 and
several times thereafter. Sam Fry was often the partner of Watson.


I have both of the 1934 books in hard cover mint condition. I plan to
reprint both of them. I cannot touch the Sam Fry updates because the
copyrights are current on those.


The introduction to "Watson on the Play of the Hand at Contract
Bridge" by Oswald Jacoby states that Watson never made a mistake in
the play of the hand. You heard that right. Watson never made a
mistake. Remarkable. The only other person I ever heard of who never
made a mistake was me.


Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Sam Sloan


Yes, I do have a suggestion: You do not hold the copyright for the Watson
books and they are not in the public domain.
Therefore, if you are not a thief you will not 'publish' these books.

Of course, you are not publishing a book in the normal sense of the word -
you are running of copies and having them
glued together at a 'publish-on-demand' shop, which is also illegal.


You are in Germany and German law is different. From what I
understand, copyrights never expire in Germany.

As to the quality of my books, you have obviously never seen one of
them. My books are of the highest production quality anywhere, far
better than anything now available in Europe.

Sam Sloan

When Sloan makes an assertion it is a good bet that it
is nonsense.

I am not in Germany and where I am is irrelevant.

Copyright expires in Germany and many other countries 70 years
after the death of the originator.

The quality of copy-shop books is such that the spine often cracks
when the book is first opened and the book falls apart after a single
reading.

600 dpi is very low quality for print fonts (see Donald Knuth on this
subject)
and copying introduces many flaws independent of the resolution.

Registration with the Copyright Office is not a precondition for copyright
protection.

You have also copied Chess books that are under Russian Copyright, e.g.
Kasparyan, and it is nearly impossible to determine who the Copyright
holder is. However, it is certain that you have no right whatsoever to these
books. It looks very much like you are a common thief.

Sooner or later you will get sued. In the meantime you will make a couple of
bucks
by ripping off the buyers as well as the Copyright owners.

Sloan, you are a dung beetle.


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Old March 19th 08, 12:04 PM posted to rec.games.bridge,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
samsloan
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You obviously know nothing about copyright law.

In the first place copyright law changed in 1978.

Sam Sloan
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Old March 19th 08, 12:25 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Rob
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Default copyright?

On Mar 19, 6:04 am, samsloan wrote:
You obviously know nothing about copyright law.

In the first place copyright law changed in 1978.

Sam Sloan


It's changed since 1978 too. LOL goofball
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Old March 19th 08, 01:28 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
samsloan
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Default copyright?

On Mar 19, 6:25 am, Rob wrote:
On Mar 19, 6:04 am, samsloan wrote:

You obviously know nothing about copyright law.


In the first place copyright law changed in 1978.


Sam Sloan


It's changed since 1978 too. LOL goofball


The rule that a copyright expires 50 years after the death of the
author first became the law in 1978. Previously, the law had been that
a copyright expires in 28 years regardless of whether the author was
dead or alive.

Sam Sloan
 




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