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  #11  
Old March 13th 08, 01:46 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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On Mar 12, 11:19*am, samsloan wrote:
I agree that Goichberg should resign but I am sure that he will not do
so. However, my reasons for believing that Goichberg should resign are
entirely different than those suggested by Bill Brock.

In the first place, this entire situation was created by Goichberg.
After the votes were counted and I was declared to have been elected
to the board Goichberg started a series of desperate measures either
to prevent me from taking office or to have me immediately thrown off
the board.

This include writing find letters to the USCF's attorney Michael
Matsler, asking for advice on how to stop Sam Sloan from taking the
office to which I had been elected. The USCF paid legal fees of nearly
$5,000 to Mr. Matsler for responding to these five letters (about
$1000 per letter) and I believe that Bill Goichberg should reimburse
the USCF for this amount.

This entire controversy about my prior relationship with Miss Polgar
started because Bill Goichberg and Joel Channing repeatedly, over and
over again, demanded to know the details about my relationship with
her. I had never even revealed that I ever had a relationship with
her, much what the nature of the relationship was. I do not play "kiss
and tell". I still have not responded to questions about this. If you
could see the Confidential BINFOS (which fortunately remain
confidential) you could see how frequently Channing and Goichberg
(especially Channing) pressed me for information about this. As I
said, they were acting like a "bull in a china shop" because they did
not know what they were getting into.

This alone is enough reason for throwing Joel Channing and Bill
Goichberg off the board. What ever my relastionship was with Miss
Polgar twenty years ago (and I am not admitting that there even was
such a relationship) it was none of the business of Joel Channing and
Bill Goichberg and it was reprehensible of them to make a big public
issue over it.

Now that I was on the board and their efforts to stop taking office
had failed, Bill Goichberg started taking desperate efforts to make
sure that I would not be re-elected. I agree that he has every right
under freedom of speech to campaign against me. He does not have the
right to use the financial resources of the USCF or his position as
president of the USCF to stop me from being re-elected.

Among the things he did to insure that I not be re-elected we

1. Instructing the Chess Life editor not to publish my name in Chess
Life (other than listing me as a member of the board). There were four
times during my one year on the board that a Chess Life columnist or
news reporter included my name in a story or article submitted for
publication. Each time, my name was removed from the article by the
editor.

2. Giving a tremendous amount of publicity to Susan Polgar including
publishing free ads and pictures of her in every issue of Chess Life
when she had done absolute nothing noteworthy or news worthy during
that entire year. For example, she was given a cover photo in Chess
Life claiming that she had won the "Woman's World Cup" when all she
had actually done was win an unofficial exhibition event not rated or
recognized by either FIDE or the USCF in which all of her opponents
were weak players, whereas the real official Woman's World Cup was won
by Grandmaster Xu Yu Hua of China (who had not competed in the
exhibition event that Susan Polgar had won).

3. Appointing as moderators and "Forum Oversight Committee" members to
the USCF Forums vehemently anti-Sam Sloan and pro-Polgar moderators
including Herbert Rodney Vaughn and Gregory Alexander. These
moderators proceeded to repeatedly suspend Sam Sloan and anybody who
supported Sam Sloan or even agreed with Sam Sloan on one issue had
their postings pulled and they were suspended from posting.

4. Anybody who asked an embarrassing of Paul Truong or Susan Polgar
had their postings pulled. Anybody who questioned or disputed the
statements by Paul Truong and Susan Polgar had their posting deleted
and found themselves suspended. For example, posters were not allowed
to ask them whether they were married to each other or not, they were
not allowed to ask Truong what companies he had ever worked for, what
jobs he had ever held, nor could he be asked to name the "billion
dollar companies" that he claimed to have rescued or saved, nor could
he be asked to identify the 11 national chess championships that he
claimed to have won. In short, Truong was not allowed to be asked to
verify any of the outrageous claims that he was making about himself
or Susan Polgar. Susan Polgar was not allowed to be asked to identify
the four "World Chess Championships" that she claimed to have won. In
short, under the Goichberg Rules, the voting public was not allowed to
know that almost everything that Polgar and Truong said about
themselves during their election campaign was a lie.

Had the voting public been allowed to know that Polgar and Truong were
lying, Truong would never have been elected (since he just barely
squeaked in anyway) and the election of Polgar would have been a lot
closer.

It is ironic that after Bill Goichberg did all this to insure that
Polgar and Truong be elected so as to stop Sam Sloan from being re-
elected, Polgar and Truong started attacking Goichberg in the final
states of the election campaign in response to which Goichberg mailed
17,000 postcards to USCF members which primarily attacked me but was
also critical of Polgar and Truong.

What has happened is that Goichberg has created this monster and now
the monster is about to devour him. Goichberg is being attacked from
all sides, especially from the Trollgar side that he had helped elect.
I am not aware of anybody who supports Goichberg any more. The recent
surprising call by Bill Brock for Goichberg's resignation is just one
example of this.

Sam Sloan


Sam Sloan

St Kitts and Nevis is on Goichberg at the US State Department. Not
that they will listen to a man who just
became a diplomat becasue State Department wanted me arrested, but you
are correct
in that the USCF Presdient is under fire, from all sides. Even the IOC
president has his cannon
turned toward Goicbherg.

Goichberg should call the Delegates into Emergecny session, and
resign.

Marcus Roberts
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  #12  
Old March 13th 08, 11:51 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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On Mar 12, 8:58 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
On chess discussion Mr. Brock call for the resignations of both Mr.
Truong and Mr. Goitchberg. Mr. Truong, reacting to Mark Nibblin's
suggestion that Mr. Truong resign, noted that Mr. Brock called for Bill
G's resignation but neglected to note the call for his own resignation.
In case Mr. Truong missed the post (or pulls it), here is what Mr.

Brock wrote:
by billbrock on Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:10 am
As I have recently learned that my statements are being quoted here, it would be appropriate for me to supply essential context: I believe Mr. Truong's resignation from the USCF Board is overdue.


Reasonable people can disagree on this point.


I wish Mr. Truong well, and I sincerely thank him for his kind words.
Mr. Goichberg's resignation would also be appropriate, and brokering a dual resignation might be an appropriate solution. Each side can cite the fiduciary duty to rid the Board of the cancerous other or whatever.


All parties need to put this fiduciary duty ahead of their personal interests.


I hope attendance at the Chicago Open is not affected by this matter.


Now someone else can explain why my idea is nutty & this thread can be locked.


I thank Mr. Brock for calling on Mr. Truong to resign. I do not support
a call for Bill G's resignation.


***

From Mr. Troung's reply to Mr. Nibbelin (this is a version timestamped
a few hours after Mr. Lafferty's post):

http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpBB...p?p=5359#p5359

[**emphasis added** by WHB]

"Hi Mark,

There are many good reasons to stay on the board and I can tell you
privately if you wish. I will continue to fight to protect the USCF
from destructive politicians. Dirty chess politics will be cleaned up
one way or another. This is one of the platforms by Susan and me
during the election and we intend to carry it out. Things will move
much faster after the Sloan frivolous lawsuit is dismissed. They
cannot stop us from bringing light into this situation. The USCF will
not survive financially if things are not changed and it will never
change if we give up. The facts will come out soon and some of the
board majority will have their chance to explain their past
misconducts.

Bill Brock made a suggestion about Mr. Goichberg's resignation in
another thread. I consider Mr. Goichberg to be one of the biggest
problems for the USCF in years. He has done many good things but he
has also held the progress of the USCF back. He single handedly puts
the USCF in this mess with his horrendous decisions. **I would gladly
consider that dual proposal.** I would mull over this personal
sacrifice to help the federation. But as long as he is on the
executive board and continues his destructive political games, the
USCF will not get better. Until then, our fight to make the USCF
better, more efficient and more successful will continue.

Best regards,
PT"

**

END CITED POST

Bill Brock he

Certainly USCF has not been flourishing under Mr. Goichberg's
presidency. And his dual role creates the appearance of a conflict of
interest. And Mr. Goichberg has a history of being a party to decades
of infighting. And *if* there are long-standing ERISA issues (e.g.),
then why should the former ED & current Pres. not be held accountable?

I would vigorously reject Mr. Truong's characterization of Mr.
Goichberg's conduct as "destructive." But I've never felt that Mr.
Goichberg was the appropriate choice for USCF President. (Dusty Baker
is a wonderful man, but I'm glad he's not longer managing the Cubs.)

It might be in USCF's interest for the owner of its most important
affiliate to concentrate on growing the business & succession
planning. For everything that Bill & Brenda Goichberg have done for
chess in the USA, they deserve to reap an appropriate financial reward
at the time they choose to retire. The chaos in USCF isn't helping
their own pocketbook.
  #13  
Old March 14th 08, 12:04 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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I previously made an offer that Goichberg, Channing, Polgar and Truong
all resign and then run for re-election against me and anybody else
who wants to run.

My offer was rejected out-of-hand with the statement that Goichberg
will NEVER resign.

My point is that if Goichberg, Channing, Polgar and Truong believe
that the membership still supports them, they should not have any fear
of running for re-election.

Of course, we realize that Channing and Truong will never be re-
elected. Channing has proven to be a big fraud. When first he ran for
election, it was claimed that he was a millionaire executive who would
bring hundreds of thousands of dollars into chess.

As it has turned out, he had not brought one dime into chess and every
time he drinks a cup of coffee he charges it to the USCF. He has
caused the USCF to make $100,000 in wasteful and ridiculous
expenditures.

Even Goichberg and Polgar would have a tough time getting re-elected,
although they would have a good name recognition factor. It must be
recalled that Goichberg lost when he ran in 1993 and just barely won
when he ran against a complete nobody in 1996.

I have bounced this idea off of several people and nobody cannot think
of a good reason why Goichberg, Channing, Polgar and Truong would not
accept my offer. If the membership no longer accepts their leadership,
why would they even want to hold office?

Sam Sloan
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Old March 14th 08, 12:17 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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I have bounced this idea off of several people and nobody cannot think
of a good reason why Goichberg, Channing, Polgar and Truong would not
accept my offer. If the membership no longer accepts their leadership,
why would they even want to hold office?


Really? Who have you mentioned this to? " Me Myself and I" in your
yahoo forum? Did you answer yourself and count that? LOL
Way to go Mohammed.


Sam Sloan


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Old March 14th 08, 03:09 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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I am sure that Joel Channing himself will tell you "every time he
drinks a cup of coffee he charges it to the USCF". He calls that being
frugal.

On the other hand, during my one year on the board, I never charged
the USCF for a drink or a meal of any kind. My expenses were by far
the lowest of any board member.

Sam Sloan
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Old March 14th 08, 03:46 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Payne
Sam, with all due respect. You have been though
the drill enough to know you must prove claims, and/or charges made
against another person. If not they are unsubstantiated claims.
Perhaps you could modify your post. Just a suggestion ( as I have no
authority to pull posts).
Su

$10,000 for a "retreat" for 20 USCF insiders to Florida.

$15,000 for "Internet Insurance"

$50,000 for an Internet and Publications Guru

$40,000 to $50,000 for a web content provider.

Total = $115,000 to $125,000

All by Joel Channing and all very well known and well documented.

Sam Sloan
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Old March 14th 08, 05:29 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
Rob
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On Mar 14, 9:46*am, samsloan wrote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Payne
Sam, with all due respect. You have been though
the drill enough to know you must prove claims, and/or charges made
against another person. If not they are unsubstantiated claims.
Perhaps you could modify your post. Just a suggestion ( as I have no
authority to pull posts).

Su

$10,000 for a "retreat" for 20 USCF insiders to Florida.

$15,000 for "Internet Insurance"

$50,000 for an Internet and Publications Guru

$40,000 to $50,000 for a web content provider.

Total = $115,000 to $125,000

All by Joel Channing and all very well known and well documented.

Sam Sloan


How many thousands of dollars have your lawsuits cost the USCF over
the last ten years?
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Old March 15th 08, 07:46 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess
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On Mar 14, 6:04 am, samsloan wrote:
I previously made an offer that Goichberg, Channing, Polgar and Truong
all resign and then run for re-election against me and anybody else
who wants to run.

My offer was rejected out-of-hand with the statement that Goichberg
will NEVER resign.

My point is that if Goichberg, Channing, Polgar and Truong believe
that the membership still supports them, they should not have any fear
of running for re-election.

Of course, we realize that Channing and Truong will never be re-
elected. Channing has proven to be a big fraud. When first he ran for
election, it was claimed that he was a millionaire executive who would
bring hundreds of thousands of dollars into chess.

As it has turned out, he had not brought one dime into chess and every
time he drinks a cup of coffee he charges it to the USCF. He has
caused the USCF to make $100,000 in wasteful and ridiculous
expenditures.

Even Goichberg and Polgar would have a tough time getting re-elected,
although they would have a good name recognition factor. It must be
recalled that Goichberg lost when he ran in 1993 and just barely won
when he ran against a complete nobody in 1996.

I have bounced this idea off of several people and nobody cannot think
of a good reason why Goichberg, Channing, Polgar and Truong would not
accept my offer. If the membership no longer accepts their leadership,
why would they even want to hold office?

Sam Sloan


My offer of settlement, above, has been deleted from the USCF Issues
Forum by the moderator Tanstaafl a/k/a Herbert Rodney Vaughn.

I guess they do not want a settlement.

Sam Sloan
  #19  
Old March 16th 08, 01:52 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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On Mar 12, 9:38 am, Rob wrote:
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I thank Mr. Brock for calling on Mr. Truong to resign. I do not support
a call for Bill G's resignation.


Why not? Isn't his being an officer of the USCF as well as a
contracted service provider a confilct and in violation of USCF rules
and Federal tax law?


Still no reply from the "Commish!"
  #20  
Old March 16th 08, 02:15 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Rob wrote:
On Mar 12, 9:38 am, Rob wrote:
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I thank Mr. Brock for calling on Mr. Truong to resign. I do not support
a call for Bill G's resignation.

Why not? Isn't his being an officer of the USCF as well as a
contracted service provider a confilct and in violation of USCF rules
and Federal tax law?


Still no reply from the "Commish!"

I did answer you in another post to which you replied. Short term
memory problems, Rob?

BTW, I'm not at all certain that running a USCF rated tournament
constitutes being a "contracted service provider" unless you are
referring to something else.
 




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