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Should a former president of the Sexual Freedom League be anexecutive in chess? Was Sam Sloan this?



 
 
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Old March 20th 08, 02:23 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Should a former president of the Sexual Freedom League be anexecutive in chess? Was Sam Sloan this?

I have two questions:
1. Should someone who was president of the Sexual Freedom League
(SFL), have any executive role in chess? This organization is
supposed to support society getting rid of traditional social norms.
I have been informed that chess doesn't want to have anything to do
with poker, because of the children it is trying tor each, and there
are vices. So, if that is the case, then would someone involved in
such an organization as the SFL be someone you would want on the
executive board of a chess federation.
2. According to a wikipedia entry on Sam Sloan, Sam was president of
the Sexual Freedom League:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sloan
Per the entry:
Sloan attended the University of California, Berkeley majoring in
mathematics. At the time U.C. Berkeley was a center for student
protest during the social unrest of the 1960s. Sloan became the
president of the Sexual Freedom League. His book Sex Marchers, co-
authored with SFL founder Jefferson Poland, called for sexual
emancipation.

Now I know Wikipedia isn't exactly the most accurate tool for
research, which is why I ask if what Wikipedia says about Mr. Sloan is
true. Now, I understand people have have checkered pasts and move on
from them also. But if the former is true, then one has to wonder if
Mr. Sloan has moved passed this stage in his life.

- Rich
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Old March 20th 08, 02:28 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Should a former president of the Sexual Freedom League be anexecutive in chess? Was Sam Sloan this?

On Mar 20, 9:23*am, wrote:
I have two questions:
1. Should someone who was president of the Sexual Freedom League
(SFL), have any executive role in chess? *This organization is
supposed to support society getting rid of traditional social norms.
I have been informed that chess doesn't want to have anything to do
with poker, because of the children it is trying tor each, and there
are vices. *So, if that is the case, then would someone involved in
such an organization as the SFL be someone you would want on the
executive board of a chess federation.
2. According to a wikipedia entry on Sam Sloan, Sam was president of
the Sexual Freedom League:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sloan
Per the entry:
Sloan attended the University of California, Berkeley majoring in
mathematics. At the time U.C. Berkeley was a center for student
protest during the social unrest of the 1960s. Sloan became the
president of the Sexual Freedom League. His book Sex Marchers, co-
authored with SFL founder Jefferson Poland, called for sexual
emancipation.

Now I know Wikipedia isn't exactly the most accurate tool for
research, which is why I ask if what Wikipedia says about Mr. Sloan is
true. *Now, I understand people have have checkered pasts and move on
from them also. *But if the former is true, then one has to wonder if
Mr. Sloan has moved passed this stage in his life.

- Rich


Excellent question,Rich. Exactly the type of question that got me
banned fromhis yahoo group.
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Old March 20th 08, 10:29 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Should a former president of the Sexual Freedom League be anexecutive in chess? Was Sam Sloan this?

On Mar 20, 10:28 am, Rob wrote:
On Mar 20, 9:23 am, wrote:



I have two questions:
1. Should someone who was president of the Sexual Freedom League
(SFL), have any executive role in chess? This organization is
supposed to support society getting rid of traditional social norms.
I have been informed that chess doesn't want to have anything to do
with poker, because of the children it is trying tor each, and there
are vices. So, if that is the case, then would someone involved in
such an organization as the SFL be someone you would want on the
executive board of a chess federation.
2. According to a wikipedia entry on Sam Sloan, Sam was president of
the Sexual Freedom League:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sloan
Per the entry:
Sloan attended the University of California, Berkeley majoring in
mathematics. At the time U.C. Berkeley was a center for student
protest during the social unrest of the 1960s. Sloan became the
president of the Sexual Freedom League. His book Sex Marchers, co-
authored with SFL founder Jefferson Poland, called for sexual
emancipation.


Now I know Wikipedia isn't exactly the most accurate tool for
research, which is why I ask if what Wikipedia says about Mr. Sloan is
true. Now, I understand people have have checkered pasts and move on
from them also. But if the former is true, then one has to wonder if
Mr. Sloan has moved passed this stage in his life.


- Rich


Excellent question,Rich. Exactly the type of question that got me
banned fromhis yahoo group.


Well, you farted in his living room. As for the other illegal
bookmaker question, not sure that is relevant to anything. You have a
family member that is a criminal? Is one supposed to disown family
members and relatives?

- Rich
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Old March 20th 08, 10:42 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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wrote:
I have two questions:
1. Should someone who was president of the Sexual Freedom League
(SFL), have any executive role in chess? This organization is
supposed to support society getting rid of traditional social norms.
I have been informed that chess doesn't want to have anything to do
with poker, because of the children it is trying tor each, and there
are vices. So, if that is the case, then would someone involved in
such an organization as the SFL be someone you would want on the
executive board of a chess federation.
2. According to a wikipedia entry on Sam Sloan, Sam was president of
the Sexual Freedom League:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sloan
Per the entry:
Sloan attended the University of California, Berkeley majoring in
mathematics. At the time U.C. Berkeley was a center for student
protest during the social unrest of the 1960s. Sloan became the
president of the Sexual Freedom League. His book Sex Marchers, co-
authored with SFL founder Jefferson Poland, called for sexual
emancipation.

Now I know Wikipedia isn't exactly the most accurate tool for
research, which is why I ask if what Wikipedia says about Mr. Sloan is
true. Now, I understand people have have checkered pasts and move on
from them also. But if the former is true, then one has to wonder if
Mr. Sloan has moved passed this stage in his life.

- Rich


I don't think there's much question that it's true. Also from
Wikipedia:

"Berkeley Daily Gazette Tuesday April 25, 1967 Samuel Howard Sloan,
Party host for Sexual Freedom Forum parties at 2714 Telegraph Avenue,
was given 12 hours to vacate the premises by Berkeley-Albany Judge
George Braun yesterday. Sloan, 22, was arrested by Berkeley police
over the weekend for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and
for possession of marijuana. Judge Braun ordered the bail reduced on
the contributing charge to $550 from $2,200 and to $1,000 on he
marijuana charge on the condition Sloan will vacate the "orgy house"
across the street from Willard Junior High School and if he will avoid
associating with minors at any party involving alcoholic beverages.
His case was put over to Monday at 2 pm for plea. The Telegraph Avenue
Party Pad was raided by Berkeley police Saturday night, armed with a
warrant for Sloan's arrest and a search warrant. Both were issued on
the basis of findings made by officers when they arrested two Oakland
juveniles who had attended a party at the house and were caught
drinking alcohol outside. Sloan told officers he may move his
'operation' to Emeryville. Source: http://www.samsloan.com/orgyhost.jpg"

Whether it's important is another matter. A lot of people do dumb
things in college. However, most of them grow up enough to be
embarrassed later. This seems not to be the case with Sloan.
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Old March 21st 08, 02:07 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Should a former president of the Sexual Freedom League be anexecutive in chess? Was Sam Sloan this?

On Mar 20, 5:42*pm, wrote:
wrote:
I have two questions:
1. Should someone who was president of the Sexual Freedom League
(SFL), have any executive role in chess? *This organization is
supposed to support society getting rid of traditional social norms.
I have been informed that chess doesn't want to have anything to do
with poker, because of the children it is trying tor each, and there
are vices. *So, if that is the case, then would someone involved in
such an organization as the SFL be someone you would want on the
executive board of a chess federation.
2. According to a wikipedia entry on Sam Sloan, Sam was president of
the Sexual Freedom League:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sloan
Per the entry:
Sloan attended the University of California, Berkeley majoring in
mathematics. At the time U.C. Berkeley was a center for student
protest during the social unrest of the 1960s. Sloan became the
president of the Sexual Freedom League. His book Sex Marchers, co-
authored with SFL founder Jefferson Poland, called for sexual
emancipation.


Now I know Wikipedia isn't exactly the most accurate tool for
research, which is why I ask if what Wikipedia says about Mr. Sloan is
true. *Now, I understand people have have checkered pasts and move on
from them also. *But if the former is true, then one has to wonder if
Mr. Sloan has moved passed this stage in his life.


- Rich


I don't think there's much question that it's true. Also from
Wikipedia:

"Berkeley Daily Gazette Tuesday April 25, 1967 Samuel Howard Sloan,
Party host for Sexual Freedom Forum parties at 2714 Telegraph Avenue,
was given 12 hours to vacate the premises by Berkeley-Albany Judge
George Braun yesterday. Sloan, 22, was arrested by Berkeley police
over the weekend for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and
for possession of marijuana. Judge Braun ordered the bail reduced on
the contributing charge to $550 from $2,200 and to $1,000 on he
marijuana charge on the condition Sloan will vacate the "orgy house"
across the street from Willard Junior High School and if he will avoid
associating with minors at any party involving alcoholic beverages.
His case was put over to Monday at 2 pm for plea. The Telegraph Avenue
Party Pad was raided by Berkeley police Saturday night, armed with a
warrant for Sloan's arrest and a search warrant. Both were issued on
the basis of findings made by officers when they arrested two Oakland
juveniles who had attended a party at the house and were caught
drinking alcohol outside. Sloan told officers he may move his
'operation' to Emeryville. Source:http://www.samsloan.com/orgyhost.jpg"

Whether it's important is another matter. A lot of people do dumb
things in college. However, most of them grow up enough to be
embarrassed later. This seems not to be the case with Sloan.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


More proof of Sam's pedophile activity.
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Old March 21st 08, 02:33 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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I would like to point out that the charges were dropped or dismissed.
I was never convicted of anything.

Also, the two teenagers never got into my party. They were refused at
the door by the security guard. (Mike Goodall was not there this
time.) They had obtained bottles of beer which they had been caught by
the police drinking outside my house from a local store. I never had
bottled beer in my parties.

The fact that there was a high school across the street (a major
thoroughfare) was a pure coincidence as my parties were always held on
Saturday nights. I never allowed underaged people or any kinds of
drugs (especially not marijuana) in my parties. Sex was perfectly
legal but I had to be careful to avoid anything remotely illegal.

However, as a result of this, I did close down and move out of the
"orgy house". It was later converted into doctor's offices, which it
is today. I did move to Emeryville. I held only one party there (which
turned out to be one of my best and greatest parties. I wish I could
remember the names of all those those girls. Perhaps Garth will tell
me.) I decided to leave Berkeley. I spent the summer or 1967 studying
intensive Spanish at the Monterey Institute of Foreign Studies in
Monterey California and at the end of that year I moved to New York
City.

Sam Sloan
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Old March 21st 08, 10:37 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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On Mar 21, 10:33 am, samsloan wrote:
I would like to point out that the charges were dropped or dismissed.
I was never convicted of anything.


Do you care to deny that you are a former president of the Sexual
Freedom League, or that you, in your later years, attribute that to
youth folly? Or do you still have the same views now as you do then?
If the last is true, do you care to explain how someone with your
views should have anything to do with professional chess and any chess
organizations?

- Rich

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Old March 21st 08, 10:47 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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On Mar 21, 5:37 pm, wrote:
On Mar 21, 10:33 am, samsloan wrote:

I would like to point out that the charges were dropped or dismissed.
I was never convicted of anything.


Do you care to deny that you are a former president of the Sexual
Freedom League, or that you, in your later years, attribute that to
youth folly? Or do you still have the same views now as you do then?
If the last is true, do you care to explain how someone with your
views should have anything to do with professional chess and any chess
organizations?

- Rich


I was the President of the Sexual Freedom League in 1966-1967 and I
have the same views now as I did then.

What is your problem?

Sam Sloan
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Old March 22nd 08, 10:07 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics
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On Mar 21, 6:47 pm, samsloan wrote:
On Mar 21, 5:37 pm, wrote:

On Mar 21, 10:33 am, samsloan wrote:


I would like to point out that the charges were dropped or dismissed.
I was never convicted of anything.


Do you care to deny that you are a former president of the Sexual
Freedom League, or that you, in your later years, attribute that to
youth folly? Or do you still have the same views now as you do then?
If the last is true, do you care to explain how someone with your
views should have anything to do with professional chess and any chess
organizations?


- Rich


I was the President of the Sexual Freedom League in 1966-1967 and I
have the same views now as I did then.

What is your problem?

Sam Sloan


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Freedom_League
Following Thorne's departure, a rift developed. One faction wanted
members to have open meetings and discussions about sex but not
actually to engage in sexual relations. The other wanted to continue
the tradition of orgies. The non-sex branch eventually came to be
headed by Dutch immigrant Alida Reyenga, whereas the pro-sex group was
headed by Sam Sloan, a student at the University of California at
Berkeley.

So you support the practice of group orgies?

Go ahead and put that on a political petition that you should get back
into any role as an executive of the U.S Chess Federation, "in order
to clean it up". Let's see where that gets you, particularly since
they are supposed to be friendly to children.

My problem is that you believe you are on a single-handed mission to
"destroy" the U.S Chess Federation "in order to save it". You have
expressed this mentality on here. And your lawsuit is against the
Chess Federation:
http://www.samsloan.com/chess.htm

I can understand if you have personal issues with some individuals
tied with the Chess Federation. But if your lawsuits are in any way a
power play ploy to get back in charge, it would be interesting to see,
with your views, how far you would get into obtaining power.

This is of personal interest to me, because I am interested in
promoting abstract strategy games, and any adverse issues happen to
make what I am working on more difficult.

- Rich
 




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