On Mar 29, 6:22 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:
Rob wrote:
On Mar 29, 2:07 pm, wrote:
Brian Lafferty wrote:
wrote:
Brian Lafferty wrote:
samsloan wrote:
On Mar 28, 8:05 am, Brian Lafferty wrote:
The idea was floated this morning on the Truong/Polgar controlled
chessdiscussion site:
"by Zarathustra on Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:35 am
The United States Chess Federation has lost its support with the adult
membership, with the members leaving or left and, the rest just
questioning why they are a member in the first place. Even with the
flood of scholastic members, that we give moral support and a feeling of
acceptance; they become the backbone of the Internet Chess Club or other
internet chess servers when they reach the age of eighteen (18) and toss
away their club specials for their computers. There is very little
support period with over the board chess.
Would it be in the best interests with FIDE just to abandon the United
States Chess Federation and just refuse to accept the payments to stay a
member of that world organization?...................
...............Would it be in FIDE's best interests to abandon the
United States Chess Federation; organize a new national organization so
FIDE and the new national organization would have greater access towards
the venture capitalists and corporate sponsorship within the United
States of America? The organizational level is there with FIDE as they
have built new federations within the last decade. The skills and the
funding are there within FIDE. It is just a question if the political
will is there within FIDE to just chuck the United States Chess
Federation away and start over."
And which organization would take the USCF's place? The North American
Chess Association?
Susan has replied:
"I don't think so. As bad as we are, we are still better than most
other federations. FIDE wants to work with us. They do not dislike the
USCF as a federation. Many of them just do not like our leadership.
"Best wishes,
"Susan Polgar"
She has made two other similar replies to the same poster.
What she fails to mention is that many in FIDE do not like her
personally. I doubt that there are many FIDE officials who have any
opinion at all about the other members of the board, because they are
not known internationally, but they do know about Susan.
It was Susan Polgar who fought endless battles with the Hungarian
Chess Federation over a period of ten years, then refused to defend
her Woman's World Championship title, then filed a meritless lawsuit
against FIDE. When she says that they do not like "us", what she
really means is that they do not like her.
Sam Sloan
Who is Zarathustra? A foil for Polgar to raise the replacement position
on her discussion board without it looking like that's what she's been
working on. Let's not forget the as yet unconfirmed reports of her
Mexico conversations with the FIDE representative.
That's Doug Forsythe. He used to infest the USCF Forums, but that was
a little before your time. He's nuts. That's not my assessment; he
boasts of it. Brian, you must realize that you don't know enough about
FIDE affairs to be entitled to an opinion on the subject. (By this I
mean the nature of the various national federations and their
relationship to FIDE and the USCF, _not_ your personal opinions of
Polgar. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
1. I haven't made any comment about the relationship(s) between FIDE,
the USCF or any other national federations.
2. You have no idea what I know of FIDE politics, which is actually
more than you may realize.
1) Brian, you're a rank beginner, with a little over a year's
experience in chess. The people with whom you deal most frequently
(like Donna Alarie) are small club organizers whose views on the
subject are worth little more than yours. I suppose you may have
picked up some word-of-mouth from Bill Kelleher, but that's hardly
enough. A loud mouth and a big ego aren't sufficient, even if it does
work in New York.

2) What exactly is "the as yet unconfirmed reports of her Mexico
conversations with the FIDE representative," if not an allusion to
"the relationship(s) between FIDE (and) the USCF"? Merely an excuse
for you to take another shot at Polgar?

Amen Brother! I wish I had stated it as well as you have done.
Rob

Don't forget to wash your face tonight, Rob.
Dont forget to shave your legs, Brian.

On Mar 29, 7:20 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:

You can be so disingenuous, John. You've read the threads on the USCF
Issue's Forum about Polgar's alleged conversation in Mexico City during
the World Championship last year. She denied everything, of course.
What's a Polgar denial worth these days?

When and where did she deny it?

I think what she wrote was one of those "non-denial denials".

Sort of like Truong writing "I didn't do it" without explaining what
exactly it was that he didn't do.

Two different FIDE officials have stated privately that in September
2007 they were approached by Polgar and Truong in Mexico City with a
proposal to change the FIDE affiliation from the USCF to the Susan
Polgar Foundation.

I have yet to see either Polgar or Truong deny this.

Also, when Susan stated over on chessdiscussion.com "They don't like
us", she is correctly stating that the top FIDE officials do not like
Polgar and Truong. After all, it was Polgar who sued FIDE in the
international sporting court in Switzerland.

She wants you to believe that the top FIDE officials do not like the
USCF leadership. I am sure that this is not true. I am confident that
the top FIDE officials do not harbor a deep dislike for Randy Hough,
nor for Randy Bauer nor Jim Berry. They do not even know who those
people are, much less dislike them.

It is Susan Polgar who is universally known and widely disliked among
FIDE officials.

Sam Sloan

On Mar 30, 5:00 am, samsloan wrote:
On Mar 29, 7:20 pm, Brian Lafferty wrote:


It is Susan Polgar who is universally known and widely disliked among
FIDE officials.

Sam Sloan

Widely know by whom? Thats the truth only if your mind is as broad as
your character is shallow.