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Legal Question: Can She Take Back Her Resignation?
On April 1, 2008, Susan Polgar announced that she was resigning from the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation. See: http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2008...ouncement.html http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2008...o-hungary.html http://www.chessville.com/misc/PolgarQuits.htm The first announcement, which was on March 31, 2008, said: "My husband and I have been in a number of negotiation sessions (via phone) this entire weekend which could immediately effect our USCF board members status as well as our status at the Texas Tech University Susan Polgar Institute for Chess Excellence. Stay tuned!" The second announcement, dated April 1, 2008, stated: "Here is the full story of my announcement. I plan to reunite with my sisters to represent Hungary in future Olympiads. I hope to have the paperwork done ASAP with FIDE." This referred the readers to the third announcement, which stated in part: "Shocking is not an adequate word for this announcement from Lubbock Texas, home of Susan Polgar, that she is resigning all her chessic positions in the USA - the Chairmanship of the USCF has already been stripped from her by President Bill Goichberg, and now she exits from the board too." It seems to me that this is a clear resignation. When a player says "I resign" in a chess game, he cannot change his mind one minute later and thus take it back. Therefore, I believe that her announcement that she is resigning is legally effective. However, the following day, April 2, 2008, Susan Polgar stated on her website: "It was meant for good fun on April 1. Humor is needed from time to time and we all need to laugh and smile more "However, I do not believe that a person can say "I am resigning from the board" and then claim the next day that this was just an April Fools Joke. Also, her statement on March 31, which was NOT April Fools Day, said, "I expect to be able to bring you the latest news within the next 48 hours." That must have referred to the statement made the following day that she was resigning, since no other "important statement" appeared within 48 hours. Also, I understand from other sources that the "number of negotiation sessions (via phone) this entire weekend" mentioned in the March 31 announcement referred to the request by Polgar that Texas Tech University "buy out" her contract with them, and it was only after Texas Tech refused to buy out Susan Polgar and Paul Truong that she announced that she was staying. Thus, I believe that her resignation was legally effective and Susan Polgar is no longer a member of the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation. Sam Sloan |
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(Removed rec.games.chess.misc -- the "misc" groups are for
when there's no other appropriate group in a hierarchy; rec.games.chess.computer -- this is off-topic there; and soc.culture.magyar -- off-topic there as well. Sam, posting in off-topic groups makes you look like a kook. Is that what you want?) Good Lord, Sam, get a sense of humor. To answer your question seriously, although it doesn't really deserve it, you will have to check the bylaws for the UCSF to find out what the procedure is for a board member resigning, which will tell you whether Susan followed it. Somehow I doubt postings on blogs and Web sites are part of the procedure. It is more likely that a written letter of resignation must be submitted to the chairman of the board. Did Susan submit such a letter? -- http://jews4obama2008.wordpress.com/ |
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On Apr 3, 11:45 am, (Jonathan Kamens)
wrote: (Removed rec.games.chess.misc -- the "misc" groups are for when there's no other appropriate group in a hierarchy; rec.games.chess.computer -- this is off-topic there; and soc.culture.magyar -- off-topic there as well. Sam, posting in off-topic groups makes you look like a kook. Is that what you want?) Good Lord, Sam, get a sense of humor. To answer your question seriously, although it doesn't really deserve it, you will have to check the bylaws for the UCSF to find out what the procedure is for a board member resigning, which will tell you whether Susan followed it. Somehow I doubt postings on blogs and Web sites are part of the procedure. It is more likely that a written letter of resignation must be submitted to the chairman of the board. Did Susan submit such a letter? --http://jews4obama2008.wordpress.com/ I already know the answer to that question without looking. There is no procedure. This came up during the USCF delegates meeting in Phoenix, Arizona in August 2005 when it was reported that Beatriz Marinello had resigned and then it later developed that she had not resigned. The person who reported her "resignation" was Robert Tanner, but since he could not recall what exactly it was that she said and he was the only one who had heard it, it was deemed to be not effective. Sam Sloan |
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For Sam, *every* day is April Fools' Day. -- Kenneth Sloan Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213 University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473 Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://KennethRSloan.com/ |
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On Apr 3, 11:00*am, samsloan wrote:
It seems to me that this is a clear resignation. When a player says "I resign" in a chess game, he cannot change his mind one minute later and thus take it back. Therefore, I believe that her announcement that she is resigning is legally effective. If this was a game, I'd agree, but anything with board that is not a chessboard is politics; in which case, someone would have had to recognize her resignation for it to have any validity. |
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Thus, I believe that her resignation was legally effective and Susan Polgar is no longer a member of the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation. Sam Sloan Who gives a **** what you believe? |
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On Apr 3, 2:50*pm, zdrakec wrote:
Thus, I believe that her resignation was legally effective and Susan Polgar is no longer a member of the Executive Board of the United States Chess Federation. Sam Sloan Who gives a **** what you believe? Especially since yesterday Sam wrote: "Turns out that it was an April Fools Joke, as I suspected," |
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she was impersonated by some other known or unknown person. That means that she, like me, was impersonated by someone else. Then, it would seem most likely that we were both impersonated by the same person. Think about the implications of that! Sam Sloan |
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On Apr 3, 1:19 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 11:00 am, samsloan wrote: It seems to me that this is a clear resignation. When a player says "I resign" in a chess game, he cannot change his mind one minute later and thus take it back. Therefore, I believe that her announcement that she is resigning is legally effective. If this was a game, I'd agree, but anything with board that is not a chessboard is politics; in which case, someone would have had to recognize her resignation for it to have any validity. In answer to the question of whether Susan Polgar's resignation has to be accepted before it is effective, when Governor Spitzer resigned as Governor of New York State recently, there was never any acceptance by the New York State Legislature or any governmental body. In the USCF, there have been numerous resignations by board members. I am not aware of any of them that had to be accepted by the other board members to become effective. The following USCF board members have resigned since 1991: Doris Barry, Helen Warren, John McCrary, Frank Camaratta, Frank Brady, Greg Shahade, Tim Hanke and Robert Tanner. I may have left out one or two. If, in any of those cases, the resignation was "accepted", I do not recall it. Sam Sloan |
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By Sam's logic, the next time a Board member loses a game and says "I resign," he/she will have resigned from the Board. I can't believe some people actually voted for this nutter. |
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