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Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites



 
 
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  #21  
Old April 7th 08, 06:30 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,va.politics,rec.games.chess.politics,misc.legal,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

A federal judge in San Francisco tried to shut down Wikileaks.
Mirror sites sprung up all over the world. All he did was intensify
publicity for Wikileaks and cause the hits to quadruple.

Google it up and you should be able to find an ISP somewhere which
will publish your pages. Also contact ACLU.

In my personal opinion the Virginia statute either does not apply or
it is unconstitutional, AND the sheriff has no business exercising
prior restraint on internet content. Furthermore, a Virginia sheriff
has no jurisdiction outside of his state.

Finally, your ISP is a knock-kneed sissy wuss for allowing itself to
be intimidated by some pot-bellied podunk tinhorn.

I remember seeing that website several months ago. I didn't see
anything on it that could conceivably called illegal. I might
consider you a kook, but still don't believe your website should be
censored.
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  #22  
Old April 7th 08, 06:38 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,va.politics,va.general,rec.games.chess.politics,misc.legal
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

On Apr 3, 8:40*pm, samsloan wrote:
Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites


The jerks at Verio are shutting down other websites too.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050100100.html
  #23  
Old April 7th 08, 09:15 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,va.politics,va.general,rec.games.chess.politics,misc.legal
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

The three pages that the Amherst County Sheriff's Department
complained about that caused Verio to shut down all my websites were
the following:

http://www.ishipress.com/clinton.htm

http://www.ishipress.com/wanted.htm

http://www.ishipress.com/shelby.htm

All three of those pages have been up, unchanged, since 1996. The top
one is a letter I wrote to President Clinton dated July 17, 1996.

I do not see the point in running around trying to hide from the
Sheriff of Amherst County, hoping that he will not find my next site.
My current plan of action is to file suit against the sheriff.
However, this will require a $350 filing fee and I will have to come
up with the money.

What he has done is solve my statute of limitations problem. My
Pakistani daughter was kidnapped in the United Arab Emirates with the
help of the Sheriff of Amherst County Virginia on October 5, 1990. Now
I can demonstrate that this removal of all of my websites is part of
an ongoing conspiracy continuing from 1990 to the present to cover-up
this crime.

Sam Sloan
  #24  
Old April 7th 08, 09:22 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,va.politics,va.general,rec.games.chess.politics,misc.legal
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

Sam,

While I am not fond of your moral character I am opposed
to censorship in virtually any form. So to state what really
should be fairly obvious - don't use a US based host next
time. I believe that you can find a foreign host that will be
ammused at best by contact by local authorities in VA.

Also, if you are so foolish as to not have backup copies
of you sites you may want to makes copies from the
Google cache soon.

You may also want to consider a careful evaluation of
the content on your sites that many people find to be
pointlessly offensive!

  #25  
Old April 7th 08, 09:24 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,va.politics,va.general,rec.games.chess.politics,misc.legal
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

However, this will require a $350 filing fee and I will have to come
up with the money.


Save the $350 and apply it to a whole lot of hosting with a foreign
suopplier.

  #26  
Old April 8th 08, 02:57 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,va.politics,va.general,rec.games.chess.politics,misc.legal
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

"samsloan" wrote in message
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Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

Today, April 3, 2008, the Sheriff of Amherst County Virginia finally
succeeded in shutting down Sam Sloan's websites. The following
websites were closed down on orders of Deputy C. R. Smith of the
Amherst County Sheriff's Department:
http://www.samsloan.com
http://www.shamema.com
http://www.ishipress.com

As you will see, those websites are now closed. Prior to today, those
websites combined attracted more than 100,000 hits and more than
20,000 viewers per day.

Also closed down today are Sam Sloan's email addresses of
and .

The Amherst Country Sheriff's Department was able to accomplish by
complaining to the ISPs that Sam Sloan was harassing the Sheriff by
complaining that his daughter, Shamema Honzagool Sloan, then aged 8,
had been kidnapped from Fujairah, United Arab Emirates and brought to
Amherst County Virginia with the connivance of the Amherst County
Sheriff and that the Amherst County Sheriff was a conspirator in the
kidnapping of his daughter.

In addition, Sloan accused the Sheriff of Amherst County of harboring
a fugitive by allowing the kidnapper to stay in Amherst County and not
arresting him for the crime of kidnapping of which he is obviously
guilty.

These statements had been on Sloan's website continuously since 1996
when indeed these web sites were established for the primary of
publicizing the kidnapping of Sloan's eight-year-old daughter. The
Amherst County Sheriff was also irked by a "Wanted Poster" originating
from the United Arab Emirates with a photograph of one of the
kidnappers, who is wanted and has been convicted in absentia of
kidnapping Sloan's 8-year-old daughter.


I have not checked out and have no questions concerning the statements you
made above. This is an academic answer, so I accept your statements as true
without inquiry.

ISP's sometimes shut down websites on the basis of complaints. The
complaint that have this effect can come from any person. The reason, I
suppose, is that it is expensive to investigate and expensive to lose a
lawsuit for copyright infringement or whatever. So they shut down websites
on the flimsy complaints. I say "sometimes" because I don't know whether
this practice is widespread, rare or in-between.

Therefore, it is not surprising that your websites were shut down. However,
it is surprising that the complaint came from the sheriff. That opens the
door for a lawsuit against the sheriff for harassment. A sheriff with good
legal advice would not have done that. That's why I mentioned that I accept
your statements at face value. No offense meant, I'm just saying that the
facts as stated are not the sort that should be taken at face value except
for purposes of drafting an academic answer.

So what to do. I suggest you take these facts to a civil litigation
attorney experienced in actions against police departments in Virginia.
There is a possibility that this could be a contingency fee case. I
recommend that you not try to handle this as an in-pro-per plaintiff.

This answer must not be relied on as legal advice for the reasons posted
he
http://mcgyverdisclaimer.blogspot.com . And I am not your attorney.

McGyver


  #27  
Old April 8th 08, 03:18 PM posted to alt.true-crime,nyc.politics,rec.games.chess.politics,alt.politics.democrats.d,ny.politics
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

Contact the EFF, Electronic Frontier Foundation. I would think that the
ACLU would also be interested in that the law is overbroad and can cause
unintended consequences.


"samsloan" wrote in message
...
Rob Mitchell states above that the Sheriff of Amherst County Virginia
had my websites shut down because of "blatantly false claims aimed at
causing personal damage". This is not true. The Sheriff had my
websites shut down by complaining to my ISPs that my website contained
personally identifiable information about the Sheriff of Amherst
County in that it stated that the Sheriff of Amherst County was guilty
of involvement in the kidnapping of my 8-year-old daughter.

The Sheriff of Amherst County said that my website violated Section
18.2-186.4 of the Code of Virginia.

Take a look at what that section actually says:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...cod+18.2-186.4

"It shall be unlawful for any person, with the intent to coerce,
intimidate, or harass another person, to publish the person's name or
photograph along with identifying information as defined in clauses
(iii) through (ix), or clause (xii) of subsection C of § 18.2-186.3,
including identification of the person's primary residence address.
Any person who violates this section is guilty of a Class 1
misdemeanor.

"Any person who violates this section knowing or having reason to know
that person is a law-enforcement officer, as defined in § 9.1-101, is
guilty of a Class 6 felony. The sentence shall include a mandatory
minimum term of confinement of six months."

This provision of law clearly states that any reporter of the New York
Times or the newspaper itself could be sentenced to six months in
prison for publishing any identifying information about any law
enforcement officer in Virginia.

I think the New York Times should come to my defense in this case.

Sam Sloan



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  #28  
Old April 9th 08, 04:34 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,va.politics
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

On Apr 8, 2:40*pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
"McGyver" wrote in va.general:

"samsloan" wrote in message
...


--- snip on the usual junk and lies one can expect from Sam ---

I suggest you take these facts to a civil litigation attorney experienced
in actions against police departments in Virginia.


I concur. Sam must come to Virginia, either to file or later to attend.
I guarantee you that Sam will find it much easier to enter Virginia then to
leave it.
Sam can count on spending a very, very long time enjoying our traditional
hospitality, at no "charge" to himself. The Commonwealth will meet the
cost,
after due process.

I recommend that you not try to handle this as an in-pro-per plaintiff.


Really, it does not matter. All we want Sam to do is attend in person. We
will arrange the rest, all of it. Accommodation, vittles, you name it.

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He really should visit Tennessee,too.
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Old April 9th 08, 10:17 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,va.politics,va.general,rec.games.chess.politics,misc.legal
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites

On Apr 8, 9:57 am, "McGyver" wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message

...



Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites


Today, April 3, 2008, the Sheriff of Amherst County Virginia finally
succeeded in shutting down Sam Sloan's websites. The following
websites were closed down on orders of Deputy C. R. Smith of the
Amherst County Sheriff's Department:
http://www.samsloan.com
http://www.shamema.com
http://www.ishipress.com


As you will see, those websites are now closed. Prior to today, those
websites combined attracted more than 100,000 hits and more than
20,000 viewers per day.


Also closed down today are Sam Sloan's email addresses of
and .


The Amherst Country Sheriff's Department was able to accomplish by
complaining to the ISPs that Sam Sloan was harassing the Sheriff by
complaining that his daughter, Shamema Honzagool Sloan, then aged 8,
had been kidnapped from Fujairah, United Arab Emirates and brought to
Amherst County Virginia with the connivance of the Amherst County
Sheriff and that the Amherst County Sheriff was a conspirator in the
kidnapping of his daughter.


In addition, Sloan accused the Sheriff of Amherst County of harboring
a fugitive by allowing the kidnapper to stay in Amherst County and not
arresting him for the crime of kidnapping of which he is obviously
guilty.


These statements had been on Sloan's website continuously since 1996
when indeed these web sites were established for the primary of
publicizing the kidnapping of Sloan's eight-year-old daughter. The
Amherst County Sheriff was also irked by a "Wanted Poster" originating
from the United Arab Emirates with a photograph of one of the
kidnappers, who is wanted and has been convicted in absentia of
kidnapping Sloan's 8-year-old daughter.


I have not checked out and have no questions concerning the statements you
made above. This is an academic answer, so I accept your statements as true
without inquiry.

ISP's sometimes shut down websites on the basis of complaints. The
complaint that have this effect can come from any person. The reason, I
suppose, is that it is expensive to investigate and expensive to lose a
lawsuit for copyright infringement or whatever. So they shut down websites
on the flimsy complaints. I say "sometimes" because I don't know whether
this practice is widespread, rare or in-between.

Therefore, it is not surprising that your websites were shut down. However,
it is surprising that the complaint came from the sheriff. That opens the
door for a lawsuit against the sheriff for harassment. A sheriff with good
legal advice would not have done that. That's why I mentioned that I accept
your statements at face value. No offense meant, I'm just saying that the
facts as stated are not the sort that should be taken at face value except
for purposes of drafting an academic answer.

So what to do. I suggest you take these facts to a civil litigation
attorney experienced in actions against police departments in Virginia.
There is a possibility that this could be a contingency fee case. I
recommend that you not try to handle this as an in-pro-per plaintiff.

This answer must not be relied on as legal advice for the reasons posted
he http://mcgyverdisclaimer.blogspot.com. And I am not your attorney.

McGyver


Thank you for your suggestions.

Do you know of an attorney who might be interested in this case,
because I definitely want to do this?

Sam Sloan
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Old April 9th 08, 10:28 PM posted to alt.true-crime,nyc.politics,rec.games.chess.politics,alt.politics.democrats.d,ny.politics
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Default Amherst County Sheriff shuts down Sam Sloan's websites



"It shall be unlawful for any person, with the intent to coerce,
intimidate, or harass another person, to publish the person's name or
photograph along with identifying information as defined in clauses
(iii) through (ix), or clause (xii) of subsection C of ďż˝ 18.2-186.3,
including identification of the person's primary residence address.
Any person who violates this section is guilty of a Class 1
misdemeanor.

"Any person who violates this section knowing or having reason to know
that person is a law-enforcement officer, as defined in ďż˝ 9.1-101, is
guilty of a Class 6 felony. The sentence shall include a mandatory
minimum term of confinement of six months."

This provision of law clearly states that any reporter of the New York
Times or the newspaper itself could be sentenced to six months in
prison for publishing any identifying information about any law
enforcement officer in Virginia.

I think the New York Times should come to my defense in this case.

Sam Sloan



Nonsense. As usual. You are ignoring the part about "with the intent
to coerce,
intimidate, or harass." This is generally not going to apply to the
New York Times, but obviously does apply to you. I have no idea
whether this has been tested in Federal court, but you'd make a pretty
lousy test case. After all, _you_ were the one convicted of kidnapping.
 




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