Cheap chess memberships per se won't attract large numbers of members. State
associations are generally cheap, have newsletters and website... and
generally
have small memberships and little growth. A chess federation, association,
club, league or whatever has to have an "attraction" in order to "attract."
Don't forget that when dealing with the chess playing universe one is usually
dealing with a universe of slow moving human sloths. (RSHaas)

Okay, we have the name:

The EROTIC CHESS FEDERATION.

Sex up the game, keep the kids out, lock the doors....

In article OogPa.1861$_s.1627@fed1read03, "Jane says...
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If you want to believe in the USCF, go right ahead. I have lost my high
opinion of them. I am a little confused as to why anything they "sanction"
should have any more weight than any other organization, considering their
destructive tendencies.


1. Agreement
2. History
3. formed by agreement
4. Sanctioned by FIDE

These are very powerful, much more so than they sound.

Jane
http://www.lvcm.com/jadams



Kevin L. Bachler

In article , Paul says...

Kevin L. Bachler writes:
You're not being specific about what the problem is with
this idea. Maybe there isn't any. There is also the WBCA,
why not compare it to that?

WBCA is either in fact or in effect a sanctioned body. ACA
sanctions itself. The difference is fairly clear.

Huh? Who sanctions the WBCA?

USCF, by default.


ACA could do a better job, if it, well, did a better job.

Well duh.

Kevin L. Bachler

"Kevin L. Bachler" wrote in message
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In article OogPa.1861$_s.1627@fed1read03, "Jane says...
SNIP

,

If you want to believe in the USCF, go right ahead. I have lost my high
opinion of them. I am a little confused as to why anything they
"sanction"
should have any more weight than any other organization, considering
their
destructive tendencies.


1. Agreement
2. History
3. formed by agreement
4. Sanctioned by FIDE

These are very powerful, much more so than they sound.

Jane
http://www.lvcm.com/jadams



Kevin L. Bachler


Kevin,

Just seems like a bow to custom, and nothing more. Was it not Alekine and/or
Lasker who were involved in creating FIDE? Anyone can create anything.
Custom means nothing, especially when you have an organization which has
turned its back on the game and the players, in favor of politics.

FIDE is less than a hundred years old, the USCF pretty much the same. I'd be
far more impressed if they had been around for a couple thousand years, no
matter how powerful they are.

Jane
http://www.lvcm.com/jadams

"Kevin L. Bachler" wrote in message
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In article ,

says...

The American chess association seems ok. However it seems the rating
system is crude. Am I wrong on this or am I misunderstanding it.

You are misunderstaning it. The ACA is meaningless.

Kevin L. Bachler


Kevin,

That is just your opinion. You are entitled to one, but you are not the
judge of much more than that. Your own opinion. You should preface such
remarks, if you were honest and not just an ACA competitor, "in my opinion",
when you make such statements. Here's an example: "In my opinion, the ACA
means nothing".

At the moment, I happen to agree with your opinion. That does not mean,
others couldn't create an honorable organization. Don't forget, the USCF had
less than a thousand members in the early sixties. In fifty years, someone
could be chiding another poster and defending the ACA. Could happen.

Jane
http://www.lvcm.com/jadams

The American Chess Association is indeed still alive and well. At last count there were 30,046 life members. The current email address for ACA is now
(Cox changed their server back some time ago.
To write the ACA the address to join for affiliates or individual memberships is
American Chess Association
3907 Rose Canyon Drive
North Las Vegas, Nevada 89032-3189
And yes, the ACA has zero debt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Rubin Kevin L. Bachler writes: You're not being specific about what the problem is with this idea. Maybe there isn't any. There is also the WBCA, why not compare it to that? WBCA is either in fact or in effect a sanctioned body. ACA sanctions itself. The difference is fairly clear. Huh? Who sanctions the WBCA? ACA could do a better job, if it, well, did a better job. That's just a matter of how much work its organizers are willing/able to do. It has nothing to do with being sanctioned.

Stan Vaughan wrote:
The American Chess Association is indeed still alive and well. At
last
count there were 30,046 life members. The current email address for
ACA
is now
(Cox changed their server back some time ago.
To write the ACA the address to join for affiliates or individual
memberships is
American Chess Association
3907 Rose Canyon Drive
North Las Vegas, Nevada 89032-3189
And yes, the ACA has zero debt.

I understand Kevin Bachler and Cheatman Chess Club are joining.